#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Steinercard]

So the makers of Kamen America have teamed up with Mark Kern's new game Em-8ER. He was originally the lead dev of WoW. Before moving on to Firefall. A game I doubt many of the people in this thread have heard of. That's not too relevent to this other than to mention that if you liked Firefall, then Em-8ER is a spiritual sequel to that. Gameplay wise. So a focus on suits of armour and fast mobility similar to arena FPSs. But in an MMO.

Mark has been Comicsgate adjacent on Twitter for a while now. But you probably never heard of him before now.

 

[Mister Dongs]

Will tell you the same thing I told your goofy ass on YT
Such a bizarre thing to grab videos from 3 or 4 years and then attempt to try to latch it to the current. Yes, I met Preston long ago. Yes, because he put books out he said he'd assist in anything whenever I was ready to give it my own shot. His help was never required nor did anything happen out of that. But once I found out he was on some other weird shit (along with the insane amount of growth we've had), there was especially nothing he could do for me. He has nothing to do with my company and I haven't spoke to the dude since 2019. The fact that you didn't even bother to ask me about it, despite me being so easily accessible, is odd.

I'm just combining the most recent detailed, uncorrected information on the development of your project my newfound friend. Whatever the case, I am relieved that you are not a secret Preston Knight after all. Then again, it doesn't explain the existence of this early concept art I found of Molby Jean's upcoming comic.

 

[YoungRippa59]

I love the irony. Young Rippa is working hand in hand with none other than Preston Poulter himself! LOL!! Surely he had to know Peggy Sue's history with CG, especially the lolsuit against it's leader. Why would he take the chance on having a known enemy of Comicsgate be a huge part of this new Rippaverse and potentially alienate a large base of consoomers? It seems like a bad business move. That's not to say he can't make a lot of cash without a single CG dollar, but it seems like an unnecessary risk to bring Peggy on board. But the reality is CG probably won't give a shit even though Preston threatened their movement far more than any SJW's ever did. Rippa's trying to deny it too even though he is on camera saying so.
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I am not working hand in hand with Preston. If you'd done surface level research of what's stated instead of just taking his word on it this wasn't a case of me taking a chance on "a known enemy of Comicsgate." He has nothing to do with the Rippaverse and the video this guy grabbed the footage from was in 2019 and BEFORE him being a "known enemy of Comicsgate. He has nothing to do with this company

I'm just combining the most recent detailed, uncorrected information on the development of your project my newfound friend. Whatever the case, I am relieved that you are not a secret Preston Knight after all. Then again, it doesn't explain the existence of this early concept art I found of Molby Jean's upcoming comic.

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That is not the most recent detailed information. That's the oldest information. There are various streams and full videos of me being far more detailed than that on the channel, yet you picked that. Again, to simply allude to some shit that simply is not the case.

Make no mistake, you're a hoe for it. But dishonest, nonetheless.

I am not working hand in hand with Preston. If you'd done surface level research of what's stated instead of just taking his word on it this wasn't a case of me taking a chance on "a known enemy of Comicsgate." He has nothing to do with the Rippaverse and the video this guy grabbed the footage from was in 2019 and BEFORE him being a "known enemy of Comicsgate. He has nothing to do with this company

That is not the most recent detailed information. That's the oldest information. There are various streams and full videos of me being far more detailed than that on the channel, yet you picked that. Again, to simply allude to some shit that simply is not the case.

Make no mistake, you're a hoe for it. But dishonest, nonetheless.

Now that it's out the way that you were simply being dishonest, you were able to go back 3 years to find an unlisted stream, but somehow you missed this PUBLIC video from Preston saying that our communication has basically ceased.

 

[The Bovinian Derivative]

Preston is not a cowriter for the Rippaverse

Welcome to the Farms, it's a magical place. I can understand keeping the artist's name close to the chest, especially in these cancel happy times, but why is it so hard to find concrete information about the story and characters of the book? Why not build hype about it?

 

[YoungRippa59]

Welcome to the Farms, it's a magical place. I can understand keeping the artist's name close to the chest, especially in these cancel happy times, but why is it so hard to find concrete information about the story and characters of the book? Why not build hype about it?

Because my company model is not to show a bunch of stuff and then it being many months or the next year until I can actually get it in the hands of the customers. It will not be shown off until everything is ready (store, merch items, etc) is ready and the customer can make a purchase, knowing that the fulfillment process will start within 60 days (which will only be for the first book or 2 anyway). I'm not crowdfunding anything and our model is an incremental trial, My endgame is to eventually get to a point to where that 60 days gets cut to 30 days.. and then get to a point to where we have flexibility of running anything ranging between days, weeks and no more than a month of preorders.

The 'hype' being built now is more than enough and that will amplify once people can actually see what we've been working on.

 

[Mecha II]

The fact that you didn't even bother to ask me about it, despite me being so easily accessible, is odd.

Welcome to the Farms Rippa! I have a couple questions for you in the name of "easy accessibility" concerning your project. If you are so inclined to answer I'd appreciate it.

Was it only the 5% cut Indiegogo takes that prompted you to develop your own platform? Considering the site's recognition, size, and ease of use for consumers, along with a secure way to not only hold, but track funds why spend the money developing your own way and digital infrastructure when you haven't pitched your book? What if your book sucks and no one wants the particular concept you've chosen? Or even worse there's not an audience for your "Universe?"

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You stated you would use it before, but changed your mind due to the 5% cut. When you said you intended to use IGG in the first place did you think they provided their services for free?

Are you aware of Warcampaign, and the history associated with the gatekeeping that went on during that period of CG? Will you encourage the antagonizing of individuals branded enemies of the "Rippaverse" fandom?

Initially I was interested, and even excited about your comic book project. Particularly when Caanan White was talked about as an artist for it. Your talk of a fandom based on nothing but your personality at this point is embarrassing.

Also it's considered bad form to multi post. You can quote messages and make one big post replying to multiple posters instead of clogging up the thread as you've done already. Good luck on your project.

 

[The Holmes]

I'm just combining the most recent detailed, uncorrected information on the development of your project my newfound friend. Whatever the case, I am relieved that you are not a secret Preston Knight after all. Then again, it doesn't explain the existence of this early concept art I found of Molby Jean's upcoming comic.

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His art here is inaccurate. He forgot to add in the true 'sword' of the Preston Knights.

His highness is no doubt going to be so disappointed.

 

[YoungRippa59]

Welcome to the Farms Rippa! I have a couple questions for you in the name of "easy accessibility" concerning your project. If you are so inclined to answer I'd appreciate it.

Was it only the 5% cut Indiegogo takes that prompted you to develop your own platform? Considering the site's recognition, size, and ease of use for consumers, along with a secure way to not only hold, but track funds why spend the money developing your own way and digital infrastructure when you haven't pitched your book? What if your book sucks and no one wants the particular concept you've chosen? Or even worse there's not an audience for your "Universe?"

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Eric July on Twitter: "I know I stated that I'd use IGG for the first…

archived 27 Jan 2022 12:04:55 UTC

archive.vn

You stated you would use it before, but changed your mind due to the 5% cut. When you said you intended to use IGG in the first place did you think they provided their services for free?

Are you aware of Warcampaign, and the history associated with the gatekeeping that went on during that period of CG? Will you encourage the antagonizing of individuals branded enemies of the "Rippaverse" fandom?

Initially I was interested, and even excited about your comic book project. Particularly when Caanan White was talked about as an artist for it. Your talk of a fandom based on nothing but your personality at this point is embarrassing.

Also it's considered bad form to multi post. You can quote messages and make one big post replying to multiple posters instead of clogging up the thread as you've done already. Good luck on your project.

1. The 5% was a major part of it and I simply could not justify that considering we have the means to make something unique for our website. That's money that would've been just given away. Regardless, my long-term aspirations was never to keep churning out books on a 3rd part platform.
2. As far as Indiegogo's site, I don't need the recognition and there's nothing that they could offer me in terms of size and ease of use that I can't offer myself. Don't look at it through the lens of what others have done as this isn't my first rodeo with online stores and I have recognition in other avenues.
3. I'm not at all worried about whether or not the book sucks because it doesn't, nor am I worried about there not being an audience.
4. I stated before that I would use it but after looking into it in more detail it didn't make any sense. I didn't think they provided it for free, I also didn't think it would be as much as 5% plus the transaction fees. That's steep, but also the reality simply set in when I actually looked into it.
5. Warcampaign has nothing to do with me nor does that have anything to do with my aspirations. I have no desire to have "branded enemies" of the fandom.
6. I don't even know what you're referring to regarding talk of a fandom being based on "nothing but your personality." I don't even know what that means.

I have no idea how to operate this website so if it's considered 'bad' chalk it me having never used it prior to today.

 

[Crescent Fresh]

So the makers of Kamen America have teamed up with Mark Kern's new game Em-8ER. He was originally the lead dev of WoW. Before moving on to Firefall. A game I doubt many of the people in this thread have heard of. That's not too relevent to this other than to mention that if you liked Firefall, then Em-8ER is a spiritual sequel to that. Gameplay wise. So a focus on suits of armour and fast mobility similar to arena FPSs. But in an MMO.

Mark has been Comicsgate adjacent on Twitter for a while now. But you probably never heard of him before now.
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The EM8ER crossover isn’t the only one, I find this crossover absolutely goddamn hilarious.

https://twitter.com/pellecreepy/status/1486400778533175299

Also, @Mister Dongs, how many campaigns did KS have in the last year, according to the crawler?

 

[GoPro]

I get what you're saying here, but I want to offer a modest counterpoint.

If Ethan surrounded himself with 10 Nassers, CG (and therefore Ethan) would benefit immensely from it because Nasser possesses the one quality that is sorely lacking in CG: Work ethic. Nasser gets his books out of time. And I don't think that can be attributed to Ethan, because so many other people in his court can't seem to manage this.

To be sure, many of the chucklefucks Ethan surrounds himself with make CG look bad, but I would respectfully disagree Nasser is in the same exact category because he doesn't contribute to CG's biggest fail of all. His general weirdness and caterpillar eyebrows is not what I first think of when I think of reasons why CG is gay and why I can barely feign interest in it anymore.

If Ethan surrounded himself with people who can deliver competent work on time, his position as the big fish within comicsgate would be threatened. If the movement would be mostly made up of people who can fulfill their promises, Ethan would look bad in comparison. There would even be a chance that CG could turn on him. There are many reasons for them to do so after all, like always being late, the ribbit coin scam, resorting to short-sighted business tactics that few years ago he used to criticize big two for, and more.
Right now Ethan is a big fish in a small (and shrinking) pond. Comicsgate is largely a gaggle of people who are all around incompetent. Ethan is one of many who can't meet self-imposed deadlines, and that makes it easier to diffuse criticisms regarding that. Ethan's industry experience, contacts, and cash help him too. They are enough to make him look better next to amateurs who printed their comics for the first time. If you stop judging his work by comicsgate's low standards, it quickly loses what little luster it had. It becomes obvious that Cyberfrog is another example of a bad, throwaway youtuber merchandise.

 

[Stupendus]

Welcome to the shit show Rippa.
Everyday someome gets accused of being a Warcampaigner, a Vikkicampaigner and now a member of the Peggaverse.
My suggestion, just GATE KEEP THE MOTHERFUCK OUTTA THEM.
LOL

 

[Mister Dongs]

Now that it's out the way that you were simply being dishonest, you were able to go back 3 years to find an unlisted stream, but somehow you missed this PUBLIC video from Preston saying that our communication has basically ceased.

Preston saying he has no interaction with you at present doesn't contradict past public statements of you two being collaborators at some point on the existing project. They aren't mutually exclusive claims. If he was at some point helping with your writing and creation of your comic (as you are on video stating he was doing), then by all rights he would still be credited, no? If this was your big piece of exculpatory evidence I don't get how you're surprised that people are asking questions. Nothing dishonest about it; after all the Rippaverse needs to be kept free of bad faith actors and it's hard to think of someone who fits that bill more than Preston.

Also, @Mister Dongs, how many campaigns did KS have in the last year, according to the crawler?

Minimum 426, estimated ~446 - the scraper last did a run mid-December 2021 so the final span of data is necessarily extrapolated. The spreadsheet itself is attached at the bottom of the post here.

Edit: lol

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Are you aware of Warcampaign, and the history associated with the gatekeeping that went on during that period of CG? Will you encourage the antagonizing of individuals branded enemies of the "Rippaverse" fandom?

Who gatekeeps the gatekeepers?

 

[YoungRippa59]

Preston saying he has no interaction with you at present doesn't contradict past public statements of you two being collaborators at some point on the existing project. They aren't mutually exclusive claims. If he was at some point helping with your writing and creation of your comic (as you are on video stating he was doing), then by all rights he would still be credited, no? If this was your big piece of exculpatory evidence I don't get how you're surprised that people are asking questions. Nothing dishonest about it; after all the Rippaverse needs to be kept free of bad faith actors and it's hard to think of someone who fits that bill more than Preston.



Minimum 426, estimated ~446 - the scraper last did a run mid-December 2021 so the final span of data is necessarily extrapolated.

No, Preston saying he hasn't spoke to me makes your entire dumbass video void. Again, ironically enough you did not include that statement though it is public. Instead, you grabbed 2019 unlisted streams to attempt to make it appear as if Preston has anything to do with what we are doing now.
You simply dramatized the statement which was only me saying that he'd be helping with what I planned to work on. I hadn't even started anything, I hadn't wrote anything and there was no sort of legitimate connection in the business sense when that statement was made. The name I'd be using hadn't even been conceptualized.

There are multiple videos and streams in which I've talked about the Rippaverse. There are public posts of me giving the opportunity to artists to see if they wanted in on the project. I've kept everybody that follows me updated on my writing process. At no point in time when any of the ground work was being laid, was Preston ever mentioned.

You didn't ask me questions though haha. There's no issue with you asking question. I've never had any interaction with you in regards to this subject. You just put out a video to specifically make it appear as if he's somehow fundamentally involved in this project. That's the part that's dishonest (and thus why you're a hoe). There's no need to front. That video was not designed to attempt keep bad faith actors out of the Rippaverse.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

1. The 5% was a major part of it and I simply could not justify that considering we have the means to make something unique for our website. That's money that would've been just given away. Regardless, my long-term aspirations was never to keep churning out books on a 3rd part platform.
2. As far as Indiegogo's site, I don't need the recognition and there's nothing that they could offer me in terms of size and ease of use that I can't offer myself. Don't look at it through the lens of what others have done as this isn't my first rodeo with online stores and I have recognition in other avenues.
3. I'm not at all worried about whether or not the book sucks because it doesn't, nor am I worried about there not being an audience.
4. I stated before that I would use it but after looking into it in more detail it didn't make any sense. I didn't think they provided it for free, I also didn't think it would be as much as 5% plus the transaction fees. That's steep, but also the reality simply set in when I actually looked into it.
5. Warcampaign has nothing to do with me nor does that have anything to do with my aspirations. I have no desire to have "branded enemies" of the fandom.
6. I don't even know what you're referring to regarding talk of a fandom being based on "nothing but your personality." I don't even know what that means.

I have no idea how to operate this website so if it's considered 'bad' chalk it me having never used it prior to today.

5% is not bad at all considering they're providing the storefront. I'm actually surprised its that low honestly. I'm willing to bet your overhead for building and mainting your own platform will cost more than that 5% when total cost of ownership is considered. It won't be ruinous if it doesn't work out so it'll be a good lesson for everyone good or bad.

Division of labor is a good thing. Focus on what you're good at and don't try to reinvent the wheel when there's already a perfectly good wheel right over there would be my advice.

 

[VIkkiVerse]

5% is not bad at all considering they're providing the storefront. I'm actually surprised its that low honestly. I'm willing to bet your overhead for building and mainting your own platform will cost more than that 5% when total cost of ownership is considered. It won't be ruinous if it doesn't work out so it'll be a good lesson for everyone good or bad.

Division of labor is a good thing. Focus on what you're good at and don't try to reinvent the wheel when there's already a perfectly good wheel right over there would be my advice.

IGG and Kickstarter charge 5% off the top plus a 3% transaction fee.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

IGG and Kickstarter charge 5% off the top plus a 3% transaction fee.

8% still isn't bad considering what they're providing. Do they take a cut of the shipping fee too?

 

[YoungRippa59]

5% is not bad at all considering they're providing the storefront. I'm actually surprised its that low honestly. I'm willing to bet your overhead for building and mainting your own platform will cost more than that 5% when total cost of ownership is considered. It won't be ruinous if it doesn't work out so it'll be a good lesson for everyone good or bad.

Division of labor is a good thing. Focus on what you're good at and don't try to reinvent the wheel when there's already a perfectly good wheel right over there would be my advice.

5% may make sense for certain people. Considering my following and baked in audience, that's a bad investment. Let's say that I make even 500,000 from this first campaign. That's 25 grand. And no, it's not going to cost me 25 grand to house a store on our website. I could not only have the unique store developed and programed, all of the things associated with maintaining it is not going to cost me even half of that.

I'm not reinventing the wheel at all here. I'm not the first person to build their own store on their website for a product they're going to sell.

 

[Crescent Fresh]

Preston saying he has no interaction with you at present doesn't contradict past public statements of you two being collaborators at some point on the existing project. They aren't mutually exclusive claims. If he was at some point helping with your writing and creation of your comic (as you are on video stating he was doing), then by all rights he would still be credited, no? If this was your big piece of exculpatory evidence I don't get how you're surprised that people are asking questions. Nothing dishonest about it; after all the Rippaverse needs to be kept free of bad faith actors and it's hard to think of someone who fits that bill more than Preston.



Minimum 426, estimated ~446 - the scraper last did a run mid-December 2021 so the final span of data is necessarily extrapolated.

Oh god it was off by miles

I am scrolling and scrolling and scrolling through here, which only lists currently funding or funded campaigns, no failures. At my current estimate, going from “Sensational G-Girl #7” on December 28th all the way back to “Fist of Justice: Monkey Business” on January 1st about 180 or so pages later, there’s got to be like 2100 in the single year of 2021, all funded or funding.

Annoyingly, all the funded campaign widgets show are each of the backer counts, not the funding amounts.

(edited to fix the math, the way KS scrolling pages are organized is weird)

 

[Stupendus]

8% still isn't bad considering what they're providing. Do they take a cut of the shipping fee too?

Here this can help EVERYONE see what to expect when doing an indigogo how much they take out