#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[The Coon]

@FROG

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Why in the world does this page need 8 Panels?

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didn't you used to make fun of Marvel and DC for this quality?

I think its like most people said, there are no speech bubbles and like @Rupin said, once Kritter colors it, it will look a lot better. When CG critics talk about too many panels or the same panels repeated on the page they are talking about something like this abomination.

Apparently he started shit with Douglas Earnst too. Now this goof has zero friends when it comes to comics.

in this video he states that Doug Ernst was the one supplying him with edited videos to attack EVS.



When Ritter colors it, the page will look much better. He always makes Frog’s art look like a million bucks.

Oh wow this whole Hut shit is crazy if true. If it is true, I just dont understand why the Iconicgate crew would do this. Having Hutt go after EVS and CG does absolutely nothing to harm CG and only stands to garner sympathy towards CG because Hutt is such a retard. Then you add in the risk of your pet retard biting your hand and spilling all your bad gayop blood for everyone to see. Its a ticking time bomb aimed at their face and the only outcome is a net negative for Iconicgate. I always thought the Iconicgate guys had evolved legs and lungs and crawled out of the CG shit swamp to do better things and move on from the faggotry of CG(for the most part), but it looks like that never happened and they are still in there swimming around with all the other retards. I will wait and see before I pass my final judgement, but right now, it looks like I was dead wrong about Iconicgate. Oh well, regardless, this summer time story arc looks like its gonna be a good one fellas .

 

[Rupin]

I think its like most people said, there are no speech bubbles and like @Rupin said, once Kritter colors it, it will look a lot better. When CG critics talk about too many panels or the same panels repeated on the page they are talking about something like this abomination.
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Oh wow this whole Hut shit is crazy if true. If it is true, I just dont understand why the Iconicgate crew would do this. Having Hutt go after EVS and CG does absolutely nothing to harm CG and only stands to garner sympathy towards CG because Hutt is such a retard. Then you add in the risk of your pet retard biting your hand and spilling all your bad gayop blood for everyone to see. Its a ticking time bomb aimed at their face and the only outcome is a net negative for Iconicgate. I always thought the Iconicgate guys had evolved legs and lungs and crawled out of the CG shit swamp to do better things and move on from the faggotry of CG(for the most part), but it looks like that never happened and they are still in there swimming around with all the other retards. I will wait and see before I pass my final judgement, but right now, it looks like I was dead wrong about Iconicgate. Oh well, regardless, this summer time story arc looks like its gonna be a good one fellas .

to be honest most of the Iconicgate fans don’t even know what CG is or don’t follow the drama like that. I doubt it will affect their bottom line much.

 

[Mecha II]

So let me get this straight... The only reason Hutt even started to do videos was to eventually break into the industry ala Zack but more autistic and less talented. Then because Hutt is possibly the dumbest man on planet CG, he only parrots talking points by Doug E Fresh because Doug seduced him. But it wasn't until Doug wouldn't go the distance and promote Space Whale Galaxy Man that Hutt suddenly decided he had been tricked. Not that the lack of quality or realistic goals of a clout chaser had anything to do with it, no! Even if everything he said was true, he is still the biggest piece of shit in this story.

You have to wonder if he set the goal at $10k because he thought his funded in minutes buddies over at Iconic would get him to his goal. I didn't really pay much attention to his book, but if he's doing the Art himself, what does he need $10k for?

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No, thank you Hut! The thread was getting kinda boring

 

[The Coon]

to be honest most of the Iconicgate fans don’t even know what CG is or don’t follow the drama like that. I doubt it will affect their bottom line much.

Then why do it at all? Why waste all the time, energy and looking like faggots by pretending to be friends with Hutt? Me personally, im still gonna buy Iconicgate books because I do enjoy them. I dont care if creators are assholes or do fucked up shit in their spare time(within reason of course), if I like their product im still gonna buy it. Hell, most of yall know I dont like @TheCosmicWarrior, but I liked the look of Deus Vult so I bought it and actually liked it. Same with A High School Girl In The Crusades, I like Quaff and his art so I bought his product. But, there are people who would care about that and may stop buying their books because of it, so I just dont understand why these successful Iconicgate creators think they have to waste time and face to do all this petty revenge gayop and faggotry bullshit.

 

[Rupin]

Then why do it at all? Why waste all the time, energy and looking like faggots by pretending to be friends with Hutt? Me personally, im still gonna buy Iconicgate books because I do enjoy them. I dont care if creators are assholes or do fucked up shit in their spare time(within reason of course), if I like their product im still gonna buy it. Hell, most of yall know I dont like @TheCosmicWarrior, but I liked the look of Deus Vult so I bought it and actually liked it. Same with A High School Girl In The Crusades, I like Quaff and his art so I bought his product. But, there are people who would care about that and may stop buying their books because of it, so I just dont understand why these successful Iconicgate creators think they have to waste time and face to do all this petty revenge gayop and faggotry bullshit.

it probably just stems from old beef when factions of CG started going their own way. Like Tim and Doug are too busy doing their own thing but, they still want to take pot shots at EVS and other creators from time to time. But they wanted to be keep their hands clean and be the man pulling the puppet strings. So they send a retard like Hut to do their dirty work.

I feel the same way you do when it comes to buying my books. Even though I may not like certain creators, if their books are good I will buy them.

 

[Twinkletard]

I haven't been paying much attention to all the e-drama with comics in the last several months, but tuned into see @FROG 's stream about Ernst this morning.

I'm a little shocked that Doug would do that considering all his videos have some element of moral-fagging to them. He's always been so 'holier-than-thou' on a lot of issues like Dan Slott and Mark Waid.

Way to show everyone you're a giant faggot, Doug.

Jesus fucking Christ.

 

[Captain Manning]

So let me get this straight... The only reason Hutt even started to do videos was to eventually break into the industry ala Zack but more autistic and less talented. Then because Hutt is possibly the dumbest man on planet CG, he only parrots talking points by Doug E Fresh because Doug seduced him. But it wasn't until Doug wouldn't go the distance and promote Space Whale Galaxy Man that Hutt suddenly decided he had been tricked. Not that the lack of quality or realistic goals of a clout chaser had anything to do with it, no! Even if everything he said was true, he is still the biggest piece of shit in this story.

Yeah, right now, I'm undecided as to the veracity of what he's claiming

I agree Hut has more than enough motivation to try and offload blame for his own dumbass behavior. Especially after he's burned so many bridges, and his campaign is a complete disaster. It also wouldn't be the first time I've seen somebody run a gay op by falsely claiming the existence of another gay op. Hardly anybody seems to pay attention to Hut, so it seems like if you were gonna gay op @FROG, via Hut, you'd get very little payoff. I would think Ernst and Lim would be smarter than that.

On the other hand, Hut is so stupid I'd have no problem believing that he'd be easy to manipulate. So what he's saying is not impossible, or even improbable.

I wanna know what is in those e-mails from Ernst. That would go a long way towards shedding light on all this. If Ernst were just sharing anti-EVS memes (like the subject lines in that screenshot might suggest), that wouldn't necessarily rise to the level of what Hut is claiming. It would just mean they share a dislike of EVS.

Perhaps the bigger bombshell is that he's also implicating Tim and Mark. He's provided even less evidence of that. As in zero.

@FROG, is there any chance you could convince Hut to forward those e-mails to you? Inquiring Kiwis want to know.

 

[Rupin]

Yeah, right now, I'm undecided as to the veracity of what he's claiming

I agree Hut has more than enough motivation to try and offload blame for his own dumbass behavior. Especially after he's burned so many bridges, and his campaign is a complete disaster. It also wouldn't be the first time I've seen somebody run a gay op by falsely claiming the existence of another gay op. Hardly anybody seems to pay attention to Hut, so it seems like if you were gonna gay op @FROG, via Hut, you'd get very little payoff. I would think Ernst and Lim would be smarter than that.

On the other hand, Hut is so stupid I'd have no problem believing that he'd be easy to manipulate. So what he's saying is not impossible, or even improbable.

I wanna know what is in those e-mails from Ernst. That would go a long way towards shedding light on all this. If Ernst were just sharing anti-EVS memes (like the subject lines in that screenshot might suggest), that wouldn't necessarily rise to the level of what Hut is claiming. It would just mean they share a dislike of EVS.

Perhaps the bigger bombshell is that he's also implicating Tim and Mark. He's provided even less evidence of that. As in zero.

@FROG, is there any chance you could convince Hut to forward those e-mails to you? Inquiring Kiwis want to know.

doesn’t JDA have those emails? He was talking about them with Nasser and EVS on his stream last night.

 

[Miniluv]

You have to wonder if he set the goal at $10k because he thought his funded in minutes buddies over at Iconic would get him to his goal. I didn't really pay much attention to his book, but if he's doing the Art himself, what does he need $10k for?

In his gay op revelation video, he squarely blames Ernst for suggesting he set the goal as high as he did. Hut claims he initially thought a goal of $1000 would be reasonable for a first time crowdfund but Ernst insisted that he reach for those stars.

 

[Alazmat]

doesn’t JDA have those emails? He was talking about them with Nasser and EVS on his stream last night.

He said the Hut would be on the Dankstream thursday to reveal more. Also, Hut was supposed to drop a second video with more receipts, but it looks like Hut removed the first video he did. Perhaps the heat was too much for him?

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

In his gay op revelation video, he squarely blames Ernst for suggesting he set the goal as high as he did. Hut claims he initially thought a goal of $1000 would be reasonable for a first time crowdfund but Ernst insisted that he reach for those stars.

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Wouldn't he be totally screwed though if the goal had been set at $1000? At least he can walk away and not have to fulfill anything if the goal isn't met.

 

[Captain Manning]

doesn’t JDA have those emails? He was talking about them with Nasser and EVS on his stream last night.

I dunno. If he does, he needs to cough them up. Or Hut does. Or somebody does.

Right now, all I'm seeing is Hut is claiming Tim, Mark, and Doug manipulated him into doing anti-CG content, and his "proof" of that is a photo (not even a screenshot) of his e-mail inbox which seems to suggest he's been in e-mail contact with Doug.

I'll say this: If what Hut is saying is true, and "the Glove" is back, I'll freely concede that FROG was right and I was wrong when I suggested last month that he was being overly paranoid in thinking Tim is masterminding a campaign against him. I'll also add that that IC is acting extremely homosexual in doing this.

IF.

He said the Hut would be on the Dankstream thursday to reveal more. Also, Hut was supposed to drop a second video with more receipts, but it looks like Hut removed the first video he did. Perhaps the heat was too much for him?

That does not engender confidence. This is why I say Hut could be the one gay opping here. Both out of spite towards IC for not supporting him, and to try and roll back all the shit talking he's done over the years without having to apologize.

 

[Rupin]

I dunno. If he does, he needs to cough them up. Or Hut does. Or somebody does.

Right now, all I'm seeing is Hut is claiming Tim, Mark, and Doug manipulated him into doing anti-CG content, and his "proof" of that is a photo (not even a screenshot) of his e-mail inbox which seems to suggest he's been in e-mail contact with Doug.

I'll say this: If what Hut is saying is true, and "the Glove" is back, I'll freely concede that FROG was right and I was wrong when I suggested last month that he was being overly paranoid in thinking Tim is masterminding a campaign against him. I'll also add that that IC is acting extremely homosexual in doing this.

IF.


That does not engender confidence. This is why I say Hut could be the one gay opping here. Both out of spite towards IC for not supporting him, and to try and roll back all the shit talking he's done over the years without having to apologize.

He said the Hut would be on the Dankstream thursday to reveal more. Also, Hut was supposed to drop a second video with more receipts, but it looks like Hut removed the first video he did. Perhaps the heat was too much for him?

this is erratic behavior even for Hut. I think he is going through a lot of shit right now with his campaign failing, a death in the family and losing all his allies. Maybe someone be it one of his supporters or real life acquaintances spoke some sense to him and told him to lay off the internet for awhile.

 

[YesNoMaybe]

I mean, Hut becoming a snitch isn't gonna solve his ability to fund a so-so campaign. You either need a great IP/talent, have a strong cult of personality, or someone else helping promoting. He has none of those things.

 

[Miniluv]

Wouldn't he be totally screwed though if the goal had been set at $1000? At least he can walk away and not have to fulfill anything if the goal isn't met.

That depends on your definition of "screwed".

He's writing and drawing it himself, so there's not a ton of overhead for him to take care of. He's got to pay for lettering, printing, and fulfillment, which could be relatively inexpensive depending on how he does things. I think $1000 is definitely a low-ball figure for a goal but he's already pulled in more than that with 40 days left, so it would make his campaign at least achievable. Hut could have set a low but realistic goal, fulfilled his campaign however he could, and maybe learn some lessons about how to do these things in the future if he ever decided to try it again. Might be a somewhat painful and perhaps inconvenient financial lesson in the short term, but he'd at least have made something, put it out there and proven he could do it. Regardless of quality, that's something many "creators" flying the CG flag couldn't manage.

As it stands, he's already shit the bed by setting a completely unrealistic "all or nothing" goal, managed to look like an even bigger retarded asshole in the process, and his creative ambition will probably remain unfulfilled forever. He's probably more "totally screwed" by the way things have turned out than he would have been if he'd actually funded his book.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

That depends on your definition of "screwed".

He's writing and drawing it himself, so there's not a ton of overhead for him to take care of. He's got to pay for lettering, printing, and fulfillment, which could be relatively inexpensive depending on how he does things. I think $1000 is definitely a low-ball figure for a goal but he's already pulled in more than that with 40 days left, so it would make his campaign at least achievable. Hut could have set a low but realistic goal, fulfilled his campaign however he could, and maybe learn some lessons about how to do these things in the future if he ever decided to try it again. Might be a somewhat painful and perhaps inconvenient financial lesson in the short term, but he'd at least have made something, put it out there and proven he could do it. Regardless of quality, that's something many "creators" flying the CG flag couldn't manage.

As it stands, he's already shit the bed by setting a completely unrealistic "all or nothing" goal, managed to look like an even bigger retarded asshole in the process, and his creative ambition will probably remain unfulfilled forever. He's probably more "totally screwed" by the way things have turned out than he would have been if he'd actually funded his book.

Producing a physical product like a book usually only makes financial sense at scale. I don't know the details of his campaign but for example say the books were being sold for $25 and he only sells 40 to hit the $1000 goal. I'm thinking it would cost him more than $1000 to print such a tiny run, have them shipped and then do fulfillment. I imagine much of the printing cost is the one-time initial setup and that'll be the same if 50 books are then printed or 5,000.

 

[FROG]

Comic Book Hut is having a nervous breakdown over all of this, from what I hear.

Anyhow, I only have the receipts he's released so far. Here's more of Doug making videos for Hut.

Also, evidently Doug backed Zack's books in order to turn them over to Hut for review. Doug evidently didn't want this known. Tim Lim involved in this as well.

 

[Mister Dongs]

I actually respect Doug more now that I know he's secretly making content assblasting a worthless leech like Simple Zack. Come on Doug I know you're reading this since you sent screencaps of Nasser's post here, just register an account and hang out with the rest of us. In any case, I hope this does away with the inept Hut middleman and we can watch full bore Dark Doug streams.

 

[Captain Manning]

Comic Book Hut is having a nervous breakdown over all of this, from what I hear.

Anyhow, I only have the receipts he's released so far. Here's more of Doug making videos for Hut.

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I agree those inbox screenshots look bad, but there's a good reason why there's a policy on Kiwifarms to use archive.is. It's in recognition of the fact that this shit can easily be faked.

What he ought to do is hit the forward button on those e-mails and send them to you. Then we'd know for sure. If your word isn't good enough for people here, DM me, and I'll give you my Kiwifarms e-mail.

Again, I'm not adverse to the idea that Ernst has been manipulating Hut all this time, but Hut is also obviously assblasted nobody in anti-CG would give his shitty whale book the time of day.

Also, I'm still not seeing evidence of Lim's involvement.

 

[FROG]

I agree those inbox screenshots look bad, but there's a good reason why there's a policy on Kiwifarms to use archive.md. It's in recognition of the fact that this shit can easily be faked.

What he ought to do is hit the forward button on those e-mails and send them to you. Then we'd know for sure. If your word isn't good enough for people here, DM me, and I'll give you my Kiwifarms e-mail.

Again, I'm not adverse to the idea that Ernst has been manipulating Hut all this time, but Hut is also obviously assblasted nobody in anti-CG would give his shitty whale book the time of day.

Also, I'm still not seeing evidence of Lim's involvement.

Anyhow, Doug's actually admitting it.