#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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So Frog, by his own words, tried to do gay ops, but was so bad at it that nothing came out of it? Ok.
It sounds that way.

Though, to be fair, nothing really actually came of Ernst's op either. Except maybe irritating @FROG a tiny bit. Again, I can't emphasize enough that using Hut was stupid and, unlike how some people have have expressed, I don't consider it some grand accomplishment to string along a retard. Nobody believed the shit that was flowing from Hut's mush mouth, so there was nothing really gained from any of it.

While I think it is very likely that they are involved as well, I think it is plausible that the quick reaction was due to current crossover crowdfunding campaign.
Last month FROG said that Lim was turning spergs against him, and I opined that Lim probably wouldn't waste his time with that now that he's successful. The only reason I'm not offering a mea culpa just yet is because he was specifically talking about Lim. Nobody seemed to be looking at Ernst. Right now, it's possible Lim was puppeting Ernst to puppet Hut, but it's also possible Ernst went off the reservation and Lim simply doesn't want to disavow.

But I have to say, given the proximity between Lim and Doug, I'm looking more at Lim with a jaded eye now than I ever have before. Lim has run gay ops before, but I was/am hoping he outgrew that shit.

I guess we'll have to see if Hut drops anything else.
 
Hence the "fake manga" comment I was replying to. I'm not crazy, I distinctly remember you selling it as a manga take on CF.

Manger?
You might not be crazy, but I never, ever called Jae Lee's art a "manga take on CyberFrog." His work is gothic.

You might be thinking of Jose Garcia.
 
Just to add on this, didn't Meyer and Van Sciver in turn inspire Ernst when they came up with the concept of crowdfunding comicbooks? As I remember (and do correct me if I'm wrong on this) Ernst took like a year or so after YBZ's launched the first Jawbreakers campaign to launch his own Soulfinder.

No, they did not invent crowdfunding comics.

The claim of KA being a “fake manga” is really funny to me because as far as I can recall, Frog has his own fake manga in the works with Jose Garcia. Glass houses, stones, etc.

Frog lacks self awareness.

I for one cannot wait for Liam's CGredemption arc.
 
Dark Doug, just take the advice of the experts and do the CG strategy:
-Throw your patsy under the bus hard.
-Delete anything where you may have said anything good about the patsy. Trust me, no one archives anything in this community because no one really gives a fuck.
-Pretend that you were always against the patsy.
-Pretend nothing happened at all.
-Always pretend to be winning.

It shouldn't work, but you are overthinking this. The stupid strategy is the one that works. If you can't be efap'd crying and deflecting, the drama isn't good enough to keep going. You already have a head start because Jon Crybaby DelAzov is making streams about it, and that's just the kind of boring unwatchable content that will make people stop caring about this.

Also, stop being a Jonah and make an account.
 
I hope nobody here actually thinks Zack's effusive praise of Iconic Comics is sincere and based off some kind of misplaced friendship, and not him laying the groundwork before an anticipated partnership ala "Narzack". In case you guys haven't noticed after five years, if he has no use for you you may as well be invisible.

Meyer's motivation here is that his business continues to be held hostage by the incompetent and crooked "secret fulfillment agency based in New Jersey" and the "per touch surcharges" that run up tens of thousands of dollars on all of his campaigns as no other publisher thinks the profit margin on comic book fulfillment is worth the proven mass walkouts and negative press campaigns that will happen when someone is publicly shown to be taking on Comicsgate business, let alone that of Richard C. Meyer himself. Willing himself into becoming Brian Pulido with the power of wishful thinking didn't work, but he has a couple of options here - Frog is willing to bail him out with his own ALLCAPS publishing infrastructure in exchange for allowing Frog to harness the dubious value of the "Diversity and Comics" brand by going on his livestreams, or he could fulfill the comics himself with the help of a few mexicans. But both of these options would involve mild personal inconvenience or effort on his part, and that's just not going to happen. Hence overtures to Iconic Comics in the hopes of reversing his fortunes from the parasitized to the parasite. Ernst though doesn't seem to share Frog's estimation of Meyer's value, brand or otherwise, to put it extremely mildly.

When it became apparent that Ernst did not find the privilege of serving Simple Zack appealing, Meyer posted some pissy snipes in Ernst's direction on his community wall a couple of months ago, adopting some SJW rhetoric criticizing Ernst's sinking his own money into a campaign to make sure it's on time and of high quality "boring" and "defeating the purpose of crowdfunding", perhaps getting too accustomed to the one-sided nature of throwing stones at mainstream figures. Instead Ernst put his tard proxy Comic Book Hut aside and revealed his true power level for a solid hour and a half of evicerating the Simple One beyond any and all sense of proportion. Looking at the dates Hut's e-mail inbox screencap, this coincided with some videos being sent Hut's way.

Two months since then, it seems Simple Zack has managed to repress the traumatic self-incurred past encounter with Dark Doug, given his present need to get someone to fulfill his comics for him on top of the people writing and drawing them.
Why would the simple one throw his lot in with the gay ops crew, still doing retarded gay ops after all these years.
There's no equivalency between Doug's grooming and secretly using Comic Book Hut and others to wage a PR war against a competitor and my relationship with War Campaign. Although it was understood that they were supposed to push back against the countless efforts by SJWs to undermine CG so that I didn't have to, I didn't direct those retards on a daily basis to troll "my enemies", and never really knew what they were up to. On the couple of occasions when I tried to get them to do something, like dealing with Aaron Alverez and JDA, they refused.

I mostly talked some shit about whatever was going on in ComicsGate with them and laughed at their memes.

But to me, it was a matter of defense. Ernst was on offense.


Yeah, according to Hut, Tim and Pelligrini are in it just as deep as Ernst. If Hut has the balls to continue to talk about it, he says it's all going to come out.

But just by Tim's immediate, panicked response to Hut coming forward, it must be great stuff. Can't wait.
They have encouraged gay ops in the past there's no reason to believe this isn't more of the same. The fact they are still waging this proxy war with random retards is ridiculous. At this point Hut should put on clown makeup and yell "holohoax"
 
I think it is time for a history lesson my fellow Kiwis. In 1871 Germany was a brand new empire untied together after Prussia's defeat of the French in the Franco-Prussian war. The new German Empire's emperor Wilhelm I and his Chancellor Otto Von Bismarck made a treaty with Russia and Austria-Hungary to help bolster the new empire. Before Wilhelm I died, he pleaded with his grandson and presumed heir Wilhelm II(Wilhelm I's son was already sick with throat cancer and did succeed him, but only for about 100 days) to always keep the alliance with Russia, that it was crucial to the German Empires survival. Wilhelm II thinking Russia was a backwater and expendable did not renew the treaty after it expired in 1887. The Russians, understandable pissed about it, and France, who was still pissed about their loss in the Franco-Prussian war, decided to join in an alliance of their own, encircled Germany from both sides. Germany was still aligned with Austria-Hungary, but that didn't help the fact that they were still encircled on 2 fronts. After hearing of the Franco-Russian Alliance, the German Empire was desperate for more allies and went to many different countries for a new ally. Even going to the British for an alliance, even though the British were pretty cool towards the Germans because of Germany's new booming competing economy and the German Empire's massive naval build up to try and rival the British Navy. I say all this because it look like Doug(and maybe by extension Iconicgate) may be looking for new allies of their own.
TL;DR
Doug and Pan from WasCampaign seem to be warming up to each other lately. Is there a possible WasCampaign-Iconicgate Alliance in the future?
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What'd I miss? I was playing tennis.

Gay.

I think it is time for a history lesson my fellow Kiwis. In 1871 Germany was a brand new empire untied together after Prussia's defeat of the French in the Franco-Prussian war. The new German Empire's emperor Wilhelm I and his Chancellor Otto Von Bismarck made a treaty with Russia and Austria-Hungary to help bolster the new empire. Before Wilhelm I died, he pleaded with his grandson and presumed heir Wilhelm II(Wilhelm I's son was already sick with throat cancer and did succeed him, but only for about 100 days) to always keep the alliance with Russia, that it was crucial to the German Empires survival. Wilhelm II thinking Russia was a backwater and expendable did not renew the treaty after it expired in 1887. The Russians, understandable pissed about it, and France, who was still pissed about their loss in the Franco-Prussian war, decided to join in an alliance of their own, encircled Germany from both sides. Germany was still aligned with Austria-Hungary, but that didn't help the fact that they were still encircled on 2 fronts. After hearing of the Franco-Russian Alliance, the German Empire was desperate for more allies and went to many different countries for a new ally. Even going to the British for an alliance, even though the British were pretty cool towards the Germans because of Germany's new booming competing economy and the German Empire's massive naval build up to try and rival the British Navy. I say all this because it look like Doug(and maybe by extension Iconicgate) may be looking for new allies of their own.
TL;DR
Doug and Pan from WasCampaign seem to be warming up to each other lately. Is there a possible WasCampaign-Iconicgate Alliance in the future?
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2022 keeps getting better and better.
 
The Wascampaign has been aligned with Doug E. since 2020 when he was the mystery guest for their D Live show. They've kept in touch since.
Holy shit, I forgot all about that D-Live stream. I didnt know they were still on speaking terms. Man keeping up with all this shit is tough.
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Holy shit, I forgot all about that D-Live stream. I didnt know they were still on speaking terms. Man keeping up with all this shit is tough.
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Pan calling anyone degenerates is quite a compliment from a ring leader of Frog's ex gay op crew, himself a master degenerate..

Though, I think he and his buddies have the farms beat.

The farms never made degenerate tard collages; never mocked people with dead relatives; and never stalked and threatened people with physical violence.

The farms has laughed at people on the internet.
 
The Ernst appearance on WC is one of the few creator interviews they don't currently have on private. Ro & company have done channel content purges often when entering a new phase (and they are returning to youtube tomorrow night) so download it if you care to have it. Seeing as they are still getting along with Doug on twitter though it might stay up.


Ernst mentions staying out of drama etc a few times in this but maybe that just means no drama spite profiteering? He does mention he will say whatever he feels and that will piss the pros (Ethan etc) off. The screenshot of Hut's emails are all after this interview so maybe what he said was true up untill 2020 but that also makes me ask the question "Were these edited videos passed along twice, from WC to Doug to Hut?" For maximum entertainment value I do hope to see the amazing spectacular the great one, the people's champion the Comic Book Hut continue to expose these guys, preferably on camera in his Hamburglar getup.
 
The Ernst appearance on WC is one of the few creator interviews they don't currently have on private. Ro & company have done channel content purges often when entering a new phase (and they are returning to youtube tomorrow night) so download it if you care to have it. Seeing as they are still getting along with Doug on twitter though it might stay up.


Ernst mentions staying out of drama etc a few times in this but maybe that just means no drama spite profiteering? He does mention he will say whatever he feels and that will piss the pros (Ethan etc) off. The screenshot of Hut's emails are all after this interview so maybe what he said was true up untill 2020 but that also makes me ask the question "Were these edited videos passed along twice, from WC to Doug to Hut?" For maximum entertainment value I do hope to see the amazing spectacular the great one, the people's champion the Comic Book Hut continue to expose these guys, preferably on camera in his Hamburglar getup.
I have thought about this as well since being reminded of this stream. It also got me thinking about the fact that Pan dropped those @FROG DMs out of a absolute nowhere on June 5th, 3 days before the latest Kamen America launch.
 
The Ernst appearance on WC is one of the few creator interviews they don't currently have on private. Ro & company have done channel content purges often when entering a new phase (and they are returning to youtube tomorrow night) so download it if you care to have it. Seeing as they are still getting along with Doug on twitter though it might stay up.


Ernst mentions staying out of drama etc a few times in this but maybe that just means no drama spite profiteering? He does mention he will say whatever he feels and that will piss the pros (Ethan etc) off. The screenshot of Hut's emails are all after this interview so maybe what he said was true up untill 2020 but that also makes me ask the question "Were these edited videos passed along twice, from WC to Doug to Hut?" For maximum entertainment value I do hope to see the amazing spectacular the great one, the people's champion the Comic Book Hut continue to expose these guys, preferably on camera in his Hamburglar getup.

That's something to consider. Look at him stroke those non-existent face pubes. Gary is smugly chuckling from atop MT. Grift.

It'd be peak irony for Dark Doug to assemble his gayop army from Frog's leftovers.

They really are no better than each other.

I have thought about this as well since being reminded of this stream. It also got me thinking about the fact that Pan dropped those @FROG DMs out of a absolute nowhere on June 5th, 3 days before the latest Kamen America launch.

:story:

Wouldn't it be awesome if Doug really was @FROG enemy this entire time. He had a Satanic Doug enemy. But he had the wrong Doug!
 
Pan calling anyone degenerates is quite a compliment from a ring leader of Frog's ex gay op crew, himself a master degenerate..

Though, I think he and his buddies have the farms beat.

The farms never made degenerate tard collages; never mocked people with dead relatives; and never stalked and threatened people with physical violence.

The farms has laughed at people on the internet.
What if this has all been the penultimate Warcampaign years-long gay-op to destroy Ernst?

Bonus points if Frog put them up to it!
 
The Wascampaign has been aligned with Doug E. since 2020 when he was the mystery guest for their D Live show. They've kept in touch since.

And before that. Lady Doug always kept in touch with them privately. It's just when they decided they were going to turn on comicsgate he got more brazen about hanging out with them. Pan is all up on a lot of Dougie's posts these last couple of days and Dougie is using Pan's talking points and screen shots about Ethan.

Was Campaign > Iconic Comics > Vikki Campaign

The unholy trinity of gayoppers trying to destroy indie comic creators. But at least their books are on time.
 
So by accepting this "Both you and Ernst" premise, it implies that both of us are equally involved in this bullshit and lets him off easy. Nope.
It does no such thing. It merely points out that both of you have engaged in faggotry at different times. Fortunately, I don't have to turn a blind eye to that to point out Ernst's more recent faggotry. How exactly does that let Ernst off?

Just take the W Ernst handed you, FROG. Don't disingenuously try to expand it into an artificially bigger one by claiming you've always been an angel.

What'd I miss? I was playing tennis.
I think there's a message somewhere around here for you, hang on...

Oh yeah! Vito wanted us to tell you that he's gonna be late to your next livestream because he met some new friends at the local playground.

Doug and Pan from WasCampaign seem to be warming up to each other lately. Is there a possible WasCampaign-Iconicgate Alliance in the future?
That would be ironic, considering so many people in anti-CG whine incessantly about Wascampaign.

This whole thing, on both sides, is "rules for thee, but not for me." Nobody here has the moral high ground. They're all in the same gutter, and the alliances that form in said gutter are EXTREMELY fluid and mailable.
 
That would be ironic, considering so many people in anti-CG whine incessantly about Wascampaign.
This is what surprised me about Doug being butt buddies with Pan. It always seems like they use WasCampaign as an excuse as to why Iconicgate and other Anti-CG are not still in CG proper. I guess the simple one got something right when he talks about there being a huge difference between being allies and friends.
 
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