#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Captain Manning]

Before I move on, I do have to sincerely ask you a legit question. Are you A) Doug B) One of Doug's close friends(dont have to say who, just yes or no) C) You just Really Really Really hate @FROG or D) other? I only ask because you are going very very hard in the paint on this Doug/Hut/Kelsey/Mitch thing. Like way more so than any other of EVS's a-logs on here.

While I think Newman is dead wrong on the Hut thing, and I suspect he just really doesn't wanna believe it because it would mean admitting FROG was a victim of fuckery on the part of Ernst, I also think he's right on the Mitch thing. I think it's a mistake to assume because one gay op is true, the other is too.

Hut provided some receipts. I think the majority here agree they they look very bad, even as Newman wants to believe otherwise.

But as @Mister Dongs just got done saying, Mitch hasn't provided shit. And I think Mister Dong's is an emotionally disinvested straight shooter when it comes to things like this. At least, I've always considered him as such.

There's an appreciable difference between the two cases, AFAIC.

 

[Newman's Own]

Before I move on, I do have to sincerely ask you a legit question. Are you A) Doug B) One of Doug's close friends(dont have to say who, just yes or no) C) You just Really Really Really hate @FROG or D) other? I only ask because you are going very very hard in the paint on this Doug/Hut/Kelsey/Mitch thing. Like way more so than any other of EVS's a-logs on here.

I'm not Doug. I believe I criticized Doug here for playing nice with losers like WC and JDA. Doug as you might have noticed is averse to fighting on the internet as most actually are. I love it. I'll argue about anything including what Steve Ditko may or may not have thought of the way JDA operates.

I'm not one of Doug's friends but I took an interest in him when the machine came after him in 2019 and he seemed to be a decent guy getting fucked over by the goon squad.

Go back through my history and you'll find I go hard in the paint about everything CG related. WarCampaign, Liam, attacks on Smiller, Ribitcoin timelines. Everything. I like to argue. I argue about gun control, trans insanity, economics, vaccine efficacy and everything else on other platforms but this is where I can get an update on the cancer that is comicsgate and an argument with the occasional poster with a brain. I'm just another "someone was wrong on the internet" guy like at least half of all Kiwis.

I remember watching the Doug sham in real time and asking for receipts using my then Twitter handle and getting ignored despite having some small following in CG/antiCG at the time. I used to be hooked in with antiCG. Most of whom are worthless as well. Some weren't but any group that would hold onto Poulter after he revealed the extreme depths of his character is not worth aligning with. For a period though I was very hooked in on CG lore and dramatics.

I knew this was all bullshit then. Both sides are mostly scum with few exceptions. It's just gratifying to see Frog slit his own throat and reveal the whole narrative was bullshit even if it was after 3 yrs.

I stopped paying attention to CG anywhere but here in early 2020. There were at least a few critical thinkers on this board who realized pretty much everyone in CG was a gay opping loser with few exceptions. So I started posting here.

This place can be good fun.

If I ever "hated" Ethan that died some time ago. Not that I like him now. I just don't feel hate. But he's a liar and a grifter and a gay ops machine who's kind enough to come to this forum and interact and that's been very entertaining at times.

And I like to argue.

Anyway, several people here know I'm just an ex-CG guy who stopped sperging about it on Twitter and started sperging about it here.

Does that answer your questions?

 

[The Coon]

I'm not Doug. I believe I criticized Doug here for playing nice with losers like WC and JDA. Doug as you might have noticed is averse to fighting on the internet as most actually are. I love it. I'll argue about anything including what Steve Ditko may or may not have thought of the way JDA operates.

I'm not one of Doug's friends but I took an interest in him when the machine came after him in 2019 and he seemed to be a decent guy getting fucked over by the goon squad.

Go back through my history and you'll find I go hard in the paint about everything CG related. WarCampaign, Liam, attacks on Smiller, Ribitcoin timelines. Everything. I like to argue. I argue about gun control, trans insanity, economics, vaccine efficacy and everything else on other platforms but this is where I can get an update on the cancer that is comicsgate and an argument with the occasional poster with a brain. I'm just another "someone was wrong on the internet" guy like at least half of all Kiwis.

I remember watching the Doug sham in real time and asking for receipts using my then Twitter handle and getting ignored despite having some small following in CG/antiCG at the time. I used to be hooked in with antiCG. Most of whom are worthless as well. Some weren't but any group that would hold onto Poulter after he revealed the extreme depths of his character is not worth aligning with. For a period though I was very hooked in on CG lore and dramatics.

I knew this was all bullshit then. Both sides are mostly scum with few exceptions. It's just gratifying to see Frog slit his own throat and reveal the whole narrative was bullshit even if it was after 3 yrs.

I stopped paying attention to CG anywhere but here in early 2020. There were at least a few critical thinkers on this board who realized pretty much everyone in CG was a gay opping loser with few exceptions. So I started posting here.

This place can be good fun.

If I ever "hated" Ethan that died some time ago. Not that I like him now. I just don't feel hate. But he's a liar and a grifter and a gay ops machine who's kind enough to come to this forum and interact and that's been very entertaining at times.

And I like to argue.

Anyway, several people here know I'm just an ex-CG guy who stopped sperging about it on Twitter and started sperging about it here.

Does that answer your questions?

It does, thank you for the response! I figured it was the case that you just really liked to argue more than anything, but thought I would ask and I think other on here might have been wondering as well. And yes it is fun to argue and play devil's advocate on here, even though I'm sure some people in here get tired of it. Me and you may not agree on some things, but I can tell we see eye to eye when it comes to @TheCosmicWarrior and I am always game to shit on him whenever he get too uppity and needs to be knocked down a peg or 2.

 

[Newman's Own]

It does, thank you for the response! I figured it was the case that you just really liked to argue more than anything, but thought I would ask and I think other on here might have been wondering as well. And yes it is fun to argue and play devil's advocate on here, even though I'm sure some people in here get tired of it. Me and you may not agree on some things, but I can tell we see eye to eye when it comes to @TheCosmicWarrior and I am always game to shit on him whenever he get too uppity and needs to be knocked down a peg or 2.

If cancer could be diagnosed with cancer it would look like Jon of Rice joining ComicsGate.

 

[Rupin]

If we could see the back of JDA’s head, would there be a bald spot? Or would it be on the top like Peggy Poulter?

 

[Newman's Own]

If we could see the back of JDA’s head, would there be a bald spot? Or would it be on the top like Peggy Poulter?

If you want to see the TOP of Del Arroz's head all you have to do is offer him time on a YouTube show broadcasting to 13 people.

Chapstick not included.

If you want to see the back of his head you'll need at least as many subscribers as Nasser.

 

[The Coon]

If we could see the back of JDA’s head, would there be a bald spot? Or would it be on the top like Peggy Poulter?

If you ever need to see the top of Jon's head, just check Vox Day's lap or EVS's lap, you can't miss it.

 

[Miniluv]

Otherwise, even if we were to give Mitch the maximum benefit of the doubt, and assume Doug indeed made this asinine bluff to Mitch

If we're taking Hut's allegations seriously then it's probably safe to assume Doug has no problem with asinine tactics, bluff or no, without having to set benefit of the doubt to maximum.

So we're left with one of two conclusions here:

1. Mitch is stupid.
2. Mitch is lying.

You've seen enough of these CG tards to know that they can absolutely be both at once.

The Hut thing happened because Doug might have felt he wanted to do something to fuck with his CG enemies, but didn't want his name attached to it.

I think this is exactly what happened. I'd honestly have a little more respect for it if he'd adopted the Breitweiser tactic of using a sock instead of an actual retard.

While I think Newman is dead wrong on the Hut thing, and I suspect he just really doesn't wanna believe it because it would mean admitting FROG was a victim of fuckery on the part of Ernst, I also think he's right on the Mitch thing. I think it's a mistake to assume because one gay op is true, the other is too.

Hut provided some receipts. I think the majority here agree they they look very bad, even as Newman wants to believe otherwise.

It's so weird how the argument against the allegations of Doug using Hut as a proxy went from "Doug didn't do anything and Hut is lying" to "OK, maybe Doug did a little teensy tiny something but he did it to help a retard " to "whatever he did was justified because Ethan and Mitch are gayopping faggots". It seems like we've spent more time talking about whether Doug's throbbing anti-CG priapism deserves to exist rather than the dog he fucked with it.

There are very few people in this thread that seem to want to carry Ethan's water and I imagine a great deal fewer (if any) want to defend Mitch in any way. We all pretty much know there's plenty of CG faggotry to go around and the idea that Doug Ernst did stupid shit to engage in CG faggotry shouldn't really shock anyone.

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

I get the impression that Nasser is, to JDA, a backdoor to @FROG (no pizza parlor pun intented but are all welcome).
EVS has a soft spot for Nasser and, the moment he went back somewhat into the club JDA swooped in and attached himself to Nasser so he can have some access to @FROG.

JDA is the unflushable of CG.

You guys with your conspiracy theories. Not everything's about Ethan. I've been pals with Nasser all through the was campaign years and everything. I'd stick with him no matter what cuz he's my bro. I'm a very loyal person.

I'll argue about anything including what Steve Ditko may or may not have thought of the way JDA operates.

Steve Ditko's business partner and publisher since the 80s is my pal and on my team, and also thoroughly enjoyed my last book DEUS VULT. He'll love OVERMIND too as I'm bringing back the classic, heroic storytelling ideals and aesthetics. We have fun on the internet but I'm doing great things from an artistic perspective and that's all that matters at the end of the day to people who are the real deal.

 

[Newman's Own]

You guys with your conspiracy theories. Not everything's about Ethan. I've been pals with Nasser all through the was campaign years and everything. I'd stick with him no matter what cuz he's my bro. I'm a very loyal person.



Steve Ditko's business partner and publisher since the 80s is my pal and on my team, and also thoroughly enjoyed my last book DEUS VULT. He'll love OVERMIND too as I'm bringing back the classic, heroic storytelling ideals and aesthetics. We have fun on the internet but I'm doing great things from an artistic perspective and that's all that matters at the end of the day to people who are the real deal.

Steve Ditko was an Randian objectivist and was thoroughly disgusted by two faced behavior.

Your flip flopping and taint licking with regards to @FROG alone would disqualify you. The way you've comported yourself with everyone else is also despicable.

You are everything about the comics business Ditko hated.

But okay, he'd like you because you know someone he knew.

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

Steve Ditko was an Randian objectivist and was thoroughly disgusted by two faced behavior.

Your flip flopping and taint licking with regards to @FROG alone would disqualify you. The way you've comported yourself with everyone else is also despicable.

You are everything about the comics business Ditko hated.

But okay, he'd like you because you know someone he knew.

Sir, I am just a good guy who makes on-time books.

 

[Mister Dongs]

There are very few people in this thread that seem to want to carry Ethan's water and I imagine a great deal fewer (if any) want to defend Mitch in any way. We all pretty much know there's plenty of CG faggotry to go around and the idea that Doug Ernst did stupid shit to engage in CG faggotry shouldn't really shock anyone.

Even Frog doesn't want to carry Frog's water anymore after posting DMs claiming he has screenshots of these alleged threats by Doug. JDA can't defend his claims of victim Mitch either. Not even going to try. That's just what happens when someone overplays their hand. Oh well.

 

[Rupin]

You guys with your conspiracy theories. Not everything's about Ethan. I've been pals with Nasser all through the was campaign years and everything. I'd stick with him no matter what cuz he's my bro. I'm a very loyal person.



Steve Ditko's business partner and publisher since the 80s is my pal and on my team, and also thoroughly enjoyed my last book DEUS VULT. He'll love OVERMIND too as I'm bringing back the classic, heroic storytelling ideals and aesthetics. We have fun on the internet but I'm doing great things from an artistic perspective and that's all that matters at the end of the day to people who are the real deal.

hiring Aaron Lopresti to do the cover was a win but, whoever did the interior art needs more practice with their craft. Like a lot more. The art is looking like sad copy of Ben Dunn’s pseudo anime style.

 

[The Coon]

Sir, I am just a good guy who makes on-time books.

 

[Captain Manning]

Even Frog doesn't want to carry Frog's water anymore after posting DMs claiming he has screenshots of these alleged threats by Doug. JDA can't defend his claims of victim Mitch either. Not even going to try. That's just what happens when someone overplays their hand. Oh well.

What I don't get is why FROG would want to carry water for Mitch. Mitch destroyed what goodwill he had in the crowdfund community by inking that idiotic Walmart deal. Seems like the dude would be an albatross around CG's neck. Hell, he's not even CG. Nothing on the Allegiance Arts website would lead anybody to believe it's a CG affiliated business.

It seems to be that Mitch tried to do the same thing Tim, Mark and Doug did with Iconic, only his plan didn't work out so well because it emphasized brick and mortar distribution.... in the 21st century.

 

[A nameless trool]

While I think Newman is dead wrong on the Hut thing, and I suspect he just really doesn't wanna believe it because it would mean admitting FROG was a victim of fuckery on the part of Ernst, I also think he's right on the Mitch thing. I think it's a mistake to assume because one gay op is true, the other is too.

EVS is never a victim, he probably had it coming due to his actions.

 

[FROG]

Even Frog doesn't want to carry Frog's water anymore after posting DMs claiming he has screenshots of these alleged threats by Doug. JDA can't defend his claims of victim Mitch either. Not even going to try. That's just what happens when someone overplays their hand. Oh well.

I checked out when I realized the standard of proof set by Hut was barely enough around here.

Just a reminder that less than two weeks ago, the idea that the ICONIC guys were involved in anything like this was treated like Flat Earth Theory. Today we're somewhere else, aren't we?

Hammering away at Mitch Breitweiser's integrity is a good tactic, and frankly, I WASN'T THERE. I didn't receive the weird phone calls or texts from Doug and so I can't prove what was said. What I do have is Doug's typical lack of a denial, wrapped in anger and obfuscation, with his understanding of what he'd done, which isn't at all contradicting what Mitch said happened. It's more like Amber Heard crying and telling Johnny Depp that she "hit him" not "punched him."

The other arguments here, like Betty did a sock puppet in response, plus Cecil and Malin blocked Doug on Twitter shortly thereafter, plus would a Washington Times article even be effective in slandering a supposedly Conservative business(?) are interesting, but don't answer whether Mitch was threatened by Doug over Kelsey.

My assessment is that he was. And Doug was spurred into anger by Tim Lim. And that Doug lost his temper and took it out via telephone to Mitch Breitweiser, who was flabbergasted about Doug's behavior and then ghosted him.

I think what I've offered here supports that belief, but doesn't prove it, so I guess I'll drop it and we'll see if anything else comes of this.

What I don't get is why FROG would want to carry water for Mitch. Mitch destroyed what goodwill he had in the crowdfund community by inking that idiotic Walmart deal. Seems like the dude would be an albatross around CG's neck. Hell, he's not even CG. Nothing on the Allegiance Arts website would lead anybody to believe it's a CG affiliated business.

It seems to be that Mitch tried to do the same thing Tim, Mark and Doug did with Iconic, only his plan didn't work out so well because it emphasized brick and mortar distribution.... in the 21st century.

I don't want to carry the water for Mitch. It really isn't about him. I want to demonstrate that this is who Doug Ernst is, and this is what he does.

 

[Analog Devolved]

I checked out when I realized the standard of proof set by Hut was barely enough around here.

Just a reminder that less than two weeks ago, the idea that the ICONIC guys were involved in anything like this was treated like Flat Earth Theory. Today we're somewhere else, aren't we?

Hammering away at Mitch Breitweiser's integrity is a good tactic, and frankly, I WASN'T THERE. I didn't receive the weird phone calls or texts from Doug and so I can't prove what was said. What I do have is Doug's typical lack of a denial, wrapped in anger and obfuscation, with his understanding of what he'd done, which isn't at all contradicting what Mitch said happened. It's more like Amber Heard crying and telling Johnny Depp that she "hit him" not "punched him."

The other arguments here, like Betty did a sock puppet in response, plus Cecil and Malin blocked Doug on Twitter shortly thereafter, plus would a Washington Times article even be effective in slandering a supposedly Conservative business(?) are interesting, but don't answer whether Mitch was threatened by Doug over Kelsey.

My assessment is that he was. And Doug was spurred into anger by Tim Lim. And that Doug lost his temper and took it out via telephone to Mitch Breitweiser, who was flabbergasted about Doug's behavior and then ghosted him.

I think what I've offered here supports that belief, but doesn't prove it, so I guess I'll drop it and we'll see if anything else comes of this.

It's a good theory.

I don't want to carry the water for Mitch. It really isn't about him. I want to demonstrate that this is who Doug Ernst is, and this is what he does.

Doug Ernst is gay and does gay ops with retards in masks on youtube. We know that.

 

[Newman's Own]

I WASN'T THERE. I didn't receive the weird phone calls or texts from Doug and so I can't prove what was said.

But Mitch sent you the text convos and "invited you to use them".

So use them or quit trying to sell a lie while hiding them. This isn't complicated.

Those receipts are the real smoking gun obviously. I don't know why you didn't share them and make fools of your doubters the other day. You obviously keep all your receipts.

And that Doug lost his temper and took it out via telephone to Mitch Breitweiser

Your own receipts say otherwise. They say that Mitch got DMs from Doug he didn't like and refused to take any phone calls.

They also say that Mitch shared with you the 'incriminating evidence' in the form of text conversations that prove Doug is the bad guy.

The "proof", if it exists, would be in the texts.

Just share the text convos Mitch invited you to share. By your own description they only bolster your story and destroy Doug's.



Why are you teasing us when you already said you have them?

 

[The Coon]

I checked out when I realized the standard of proof set by Hut was barely enough around here.

This angstyness is unbecoming of you. You know this is bullshit and that pretty much everyone here is in agreement with the current theory that Doug did a gayop with Hut. Stop being dramatic. Also, just because Doug did the Hut gayop doesnt automatically mean he did the Breitweiser one.