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I have confirmation Ernst is reading the farms.
This is not news. We've known this for over a week. In fact, you were the one that posted it.

Actual news is Doug has put his Twitter into protected mode...

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...and is apparently claiming that people are impersonating him.

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I'd archive it properly, but the protected mode kinda fucks that up.

Begun the gay counter-op to the gay Ernst op has. Happy Pride Month!
 
Comicsgate Outreach Effort: Update



18/06/2022 - COMICS WITH PERCH - SO WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY ALTERNATIVE?

The revelations concerning Dark Doug have shaken the very important world of online crowdfunded indie comics on many levels, from the youtubers, to the guys Frog happens to be on stream with to... well that's about it really. Simple Zack was probably really assblasted too, but he didn't say anything publicly. But perhaps nowhere was hit worse than the especially conflict-averse section of youtube comic commentary community. Here Doug Ernst was upheld as more than a shining example of "avoiding drama", but almost as a mythical living, breathing oasis around whom no stupid gay shit happened. The incredibly stupid gay shit with Doug grooming an attack tard for years to go after his enemies, only for said tard to publicly betray him in the most humiliating manner possible thus came as a harsh blow to those dreaming the dream of the "drama free life", a fabled utopia where youtubers can just spout off whatever dumbass opinions on people or events pop into their head on the internet like an unending flow of myrrh and honey, free of the "drama" that is the subject person's own critiques or responses to said opinions made about them. Perch sound defeated: if Doug Ernst can turn out to be a gayopper, what hope can people have for anyone else?

After a thrilling preamble of talking about his plans for investment portfolio in the face of the economic downturn, as well as an ultimatum that crowdfunders "should get their shit together", Perch gets to the latest question mailed to him: an anonymous person writing in describes about how he, as a big Kenneth Rocafort fan, found himself in an unnamed livestream celebrating the launch of Rocafort's latest crowdfund Groken 2 where people were having fun, lots of upbeat energy, prizes were being held and the host (Lord Crackhead) was inviting other independent comic creators to come on to enjoy the love. Ironically, Kenneth Rocafort rarely livestreams and has never had a public conflict with anyone, Groken 2 having outraised the entire two-month campaign of Groken 1 within 48 hours. It goes without saying that Rocafort's gayops will be homosexual beyond imagining once they are inevitably revealed.

Only later, the author continues, did he realize that he was rubbing elbows in a Comicsgate stream, feeling "like a guy in a ghost costume on Halloween realizing he showed up to a Klan rally". Perch laughs, but the question continues, saying that he was surprised by all this given Comicsgate's reputation - his question is what is the community alternative for people who want to break into comics but not go through the process of Comicsgatification and instead live in the promised land that is a drama-free, conflict-free existence.

Perch matter-of-factly informs the writer that given recent events, he's not sure there is such an alternative. He talks to people in the mainstream and he assures the writer that the scheming and gayops are just as wild there; there is no escaping it. Instead, Perch advises the reader that perhaps the realistic approach is for him to just pick the comic book creator gayop coven tha he feels best reflects his values and just start making one's way, sort of like picking a faction when going through an RPG chargen. In this, Perch seems to have found an unlikely agreement on how to break into comics with the philosophy and wisdom of Ro Kabir, who might have put it best:



Perch ends the video by suggesting that the person writing in's life may be easier if he judged people as individuals instead of their group affiliations. Deem the Comicsgaters out there saying racist shit as racist sure, but plenty of indie creators he can name like Brian Ball and Tim Lim wear the stigma that is "the industry" declaring them to be CG despite their actively disavowing any association for over half a decade. And plenty of woke non-CG people like Warren Ellis who were certainly capable of misogynistic conduct. If the anonymous writer wants to start being judged as an individual and avoid falling into the pit of group association, perhaps he could start with his own outlook on others.




18/06/2022 - TALKING & DRAWING WITH SHANE DAVIS - PERCH AND OPENING MY KEOWN CVR

This broadside against Comicsgate (?) Shane Davis decided would not be allowed to go unanswered. The Inglorious Rex author taking it upon himself to marshall the forces, as Frog presumably was busy and/or didn't give a shit about what Perch has to say. No matter though, they don't need Frog there to handhold them (wrong); any attack upon the institution and precepts of CG would be soundly trounced by the combined polemical forces of himself, Michael Bancroft, Irene Strychalski and, God help us, Jon Malin. Jon doesn't know what this any of this video or context surrounding it is about. He doesn't need to know. All he needs to know is that this "Perch" guy is an opponent and whatever argument is thrown out there to be ruthlessly deconstructed with the inexorable, machine-like logic of Jon Malin's brain. Jon holds the bottle of 40 oz malt liquor he will be consuming during the livestream up to the camera to let us know he's serious.

Once getting through the customary introductions of his co-panelists, the introduction videos, and the small talk to warm up, the CG King squad (and Bancroft) is ready to efap the 20 minute Perch video at around 30 minutes in. Shane Davis proceeds to take apart the most egregious part in his mind - Perch's 1:53 preamble about his portfolio given the current economic outcast. Shane unveils a panoply of arguments consisting of exclusively anecdotal and analogical evidence to the effect that when the Second Great Depression hits, the mail order luxury premium comic industry is going to soar while the big box industries and all their cumbersome supply management chains are going to go out of business. The big unwieldy ocean liner will be unable to avoid the oncoming iceberg Shane says, presumably leaving the more nimble speedboats to take over the global shipping network. "Comicsgate is like a craft beer store" is another musing from the patriarch of the Davis household. Another is how a friend of Shane's that runs a food truck says he prefers the low overhead over operating a restaurant. Comicsgate is like that food truck. This goes on for 40 minutes. The matter of lateness brought up by Perch, to which Shane rejoins that the mainstream industry encounters delays and late books on a regular basis to much lower fanfare, while Jon opts for the more direct approach of yelling for the Texan fencesitter to "shut up about that superiority shit".

Having defeated economics, the quartet move on to the actual subject of the video. They get about this far:
"Here's an email from a viewer. And this goes into the various groups in comics and crowdfunding and alternatives and, and drama and all that stuff. So let's get to it-"

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Coach Malin has heard all he needs to and has a wake up call for this little fucking bitch writing into Perch's show. "Crowdfunding and drama? What about mainstream and drama? Like dude, drama has been in every fucking industry, anything that revolves around entertainment or any compeitive industry period at the managerial level since the dawn of fucking time." This has always been the way Malin explains for this polyanna's benefit; it's just that the internet just made it visible. What you're seeing is just the kind of high-stakes competition that goes down in the real world. "Welcome to being an adult" Jon scolds, "Time to put on your big boy pants and start slugging". Every person you ever heard of, every person you can think of who made something of themselves, even the President, has to be a "prick asshole" at one point or another to even be qualified for a high stakes job. Just how it is. You think Neal Adams or Joe Quesada or Joe Biden wouldn't pass on clipped videos to Comic Book Hut? Welcome to the real world you stupid gay baby!

"People say Comicsgate is slowing down, what these motherfuckers need to know is that it's only getting started." Jon says the "CG Todd Macfarlane" and "CG Frank Miller", who will presumably also be total prick assholes because that's what it takes to make it in this bitch of an earth, haven't even risen up yet. Y'all better be ready for the imminent Comicsgate scumfuck gayopping master race because they're going to be taking over this shit, baby. The chat goes wild cheering for da Coach. Coach! Coach! Coach! Shane follows this with a rambling boilerplate non-sequitur tangent about how Marvel and DC just don't seem competitive anymore. Fuck Shane.

The other three panelists differ in their reactions to this epic, inspiring speech. Irene is off cameraa and says nothing. Shane, who sensibly prewatched the video in advance, knows that this is the exact same thing Perch will go on to later except delivered in a far more stupid manner. Shane squirms around and grimaces for a few seconds before getting out of his chair to collect himself. Michael Bancroft knows about the Ernst thing and (I suspect) grasps how Malin is unintentionally countersignaling Dear Leader here but, lacking anywhere near enough clout to tardwrangle a CG titan, the Lucent creator decides that perhaps it's best to just impassively stare into space for several minutes. This was probably the right call on Bancroft's part.

They move on to the part of the video where the Kenneth Rocafort fan relates his realizing he was in a CG stream was like accidentally showing up to a Klan meeting only to find it was really upbeat and positive, but Jon flips his lid again again before they can get to that second half of the story, which I shall quote verbatim.

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Jon Malin 1:15:52
What pisses me off about this is like, okay, so one, you're gonna describe us as the fucking Ku Klux Klan, which is fucking insane. But then you're gonna pretend like what, okay, so Kenneth Rocafort he's Comicsgate, is he wearing a fucking hood motherfucker? You know, why don't you say that? Why don't you say Kenneth Rocafort is wearing a fucking hood and burning fucking crosses on his fucking lawn. Why don't you just say that? Fucking say it.

These fucking tough fuck, look these fucking tough fucks got a lot of fucking shit to say about a group of people, predominantly white, that fucking get together and have a good fucking time, but they ignore the fact that there's people of color here. Men, women, whatever. But they'll point out that it's a fucking Klan meeting. And it's like, "Okay, what about the black people?" "They don't exist because I want to describe this as a Klan meeting. ""Oh, what about the Asians? "They don't exist? I want to describe this as a Klan meeting." They're fucking fucks. This guy's a fuck and he can go fuck himself.

Shane Davis 1:16:48
I told you you were gonna spit.

Jon Malin 1:16:51
THAT'S FUCKING BULLSHIT, DUDE. "No I was walking into a fucking Ku Klux Klan meeting because here there are Comicsgaters in there congratulating Kenneth Rocafort, who's not fucking white, on a successful crowd fund." Because that's what Ku Klux Klan members do. They find the person of color that's their friend and they go around and just start congratulating on raising a lot of money on that white supremacist dollar. Fucking ridiculous. I THINK THIS PERCH GUY IS A FUCKING MORON. GO FUCK YOURSELF PERCH. AAAAAAA

Irene Strychalski, her comicsgate rhetoric still a work in progress, has been quiet for timidly offers "that this sounds like a fan of the show said it". Jon tells her to shut up; they they all just heard this asshole Perch literally called Comicsgaters klan members, the fucking piece of shit.

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Shane realizes that these explorations by Coach of the left side of the IQ bell curve are only the beginning as far as the JACK show star is concerned, and so finds himself in a rare moment of role reversal where he, normally the tardwrangled by Yanzi or Leroi, must now take upon himself the tardwrangler of his Comicsgate brother-in-arms Jon Malin. He gently corrects Jon by pointing out that it was the guy writing to Perch who said that, not Perch himself. But, not wanting to lose the crowd that is totally behind Malin and his impassioned chimpout, Shane compromises by offering the argument that Perch reading the note at all is tantamount to endorsing its contents on some level. Which is pretty SJW, but whatever. Peace is restored.

Shane talks for a while about commissioning printers, and Bancroft has some "factoid" about how Eric Weathers and Von Klaus making ~$15,000 over the past 2 years to push their campaigns into six figures means that the mainstream is taking notice of what a big threat crowdfunding is to the mainstream, which is the worst argument in this stream except for every other argument made so far. Irene only has the one anecdote of talking to her "normie friend" who said that this all sounds like the mainstream wanting to crush competition. Shane rambles about gemini mailers and what sort of printer services he recommends for some fucking reason. From here the topic gets sidetracked from addressing Perch's video to shittalking Mark Brooks for about 30 minutes, which cheers everyone up and gets the panel talking about how their collaborative crowdfunding-youtube ecosystem is a new opportunity allowing for new creators to break into creator-owned comics without having to give up decades to a soulless corporation blah blah blah so on, taking a more sedate course except for a brief part where Jon Malin says he wants to strangle Perch to death in Minecraft because of his impugning the good name of Warren Ellis.





19/06/2022 - PERCH COMICS - WHY DO PEOPLE CRAP ON PERCHS CHANNEL

The following day a reader writes Perch with another very important question - why do I, and other people, but mostly me, shit on Perch so much?
"Hey, Perch. Love your show. Here's one thing I don't understand though. Why do so many people crap on you? You're pretty much the most even handed YouTuber that exists on the internet. You go out of your way not to insult people and yet you have a barrage of people commenting on your message board, people taking shots at you, people making other video reactions, constantly people are bitching. If you've ever been over to Kiwi Farms, you know that those miserable trolls over there are always taking the piss out of you. Even though they're clearly morons. Why is it? Why do you get so much negativity?"

Perch's theory as to why that he invites criticism, or something without going on a "tantrum laced bender unlike other people he's sure you can think of".
 
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JDA has been producing attack videos and going on streams for two weeks trying to "cancel" Ernst.

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I imagine that fact he's been attacking Doug for two weeks has come back to him in some way and now the faggot wants to play victim.

This is Jon's most used tactic. It's literally his marketing plan to accuse people he attacks of trying to "cancel" him. He's done this with so many creators it would be hard to count. Ask Ethan, he pulled this stunt against him too.

If you think maybe you should believe anything Jon says you might be beyond help.

I'm not sure why JDA has such a hard on for Ernst but he's had a boner for the dude forever. If JDA was any gayer he'd be promoting his drag shows as well as comics.

The JDA cycle. The CosmicWarrior is a tiresome beast.

Step One, see someone else who owes you nothing and has some kind of platform or success.

Step Two, shamelessly insert yourself and obnoxiously shill your terrible work. This wouldn't be unusual except after this...

Step Three, demand that said individual shill for you. Unless you immediately bend over backwards to shill for him, he will cry and squeal that you hate him because he's a christian/conservative.

Step Four, having triggered JDA, he will then go hard after you by bitching and talking trash on the internet.

Step Five, rinse and repeat.

He'll say anything he can to hurt you if you stop putting up with his bullshit and tell him to fuck off.

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So if Cummings is a clown for saying this and being wrong...what does that make JDA?
 
JDA's business model:
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Next he'll be posing with a milkshake.

In all seriousness, why is anyone listening to JDA? If Doug's idiocy was a gay op via proxy, what is it called when JDA begs Christopher to drop private messages with the promise of "momentum" on a campaign for a few grand? Embarrassing.
I made a better one of these a while back.
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So if Cummings is a clown for saying this and being wrong...what does that make JDA?
I never thought Cumming's was dumb enough to go way out in left field like he did with the Simeti debacle. That was pure idiocy on his part.

JDA on the other hand probably always believed Simeti was telling the truth and was just spreading the rumor because he had a recent grudge about Simeti "canceling" him from spamming the Alterna fan forum or whatever.

JDA doesn't actually believe anything he says. He's dumb but not that dumb.

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The JDA cycle. The CosmicWarrior is a tiresome beast.

Step One, see someone else who owes you nothing and has some kind of platform or success.

Step Two, shamelessly insert yourself and obnoxiously shill your terrible work. This wouldn't be unusual except after this...

Step Three, demand that said individual shill for you. Unless you immediately bend over backwards to shill for him, he will cry and squeal that you hate him because he's a christian/conservative.

Step Four, having triggered JDA, he will then go hard after you by bitching and talking trash on the internet.

Step Five, rinse and repeat.

I believe it was @Mister Dongs who coined The Jon Del Arroz Dialectic

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This is not news. We've known this for over a week. In fact, you were the one that posted it.

Actual news is Doug has put his Twitter into protected mode...

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...and is apparently claiming that people are impersonating him.

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I'd archive it properly, but the protected mode kinda fucks that up.

Begun the gay counter-op to the gay Ernst op has. Happy Pride Month!

He's gone full Patrick S. Tomlinson.

Update: One of the people he tried to get me canceled with flipped it on him and offered to mediate a "phone call to resolve issues". Doug has agreed. I will be speaking with Doug some time this weekend, though I suspect the object of this call is to say how nice of a guy he is and how mean I am in front of this fellow. We shall see what happens.
 
@Mister Dongs
Jon holds the bottle of 40 oz malt liquor he will be consuming during the livestream up to the camera to let us know he's serious.

Hey, whatever happened to that fotie guy? It seemed like he was all the thread ever talked about for like a week and then never mentioned again.
 
Hey, whatever happened to that fotie guy? It seemed like he was all the thread ever talked about for like a week and then never mentioned again.
The only people who were really into that were Frog, Cecil and Jon Malin. Frog got bored of watching some guy drink a bottle of malt liquor in around a week. Cecil stopped talking about SteeleWorldwide after it was made very clear that had no interest on going on Cecil's show, and said crude things about his oneitis Anna's "big cans". Jon Malin was the most interesting, who went from hating the molt likker efaps to adopting them as his own identity, somehow missing that the whole point of what the "malt liquor community" is doing is to make slamming back a 40 oz. kino instead of just drinking on a livestream.

He messaged a few people trying to cancel me behind the scenes
Cancel you from what exactly?
 
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@Mister Dongs
"He gently corrects Jon by pointing out that it was the guy writing to Perch who said that, not Perch himself."

It cracks me up that in 2022 after half a decade of nonstop online interactions these dumb boomers still cant tell when someone is quoting someone else, and will still blow a gasket and form multi-year blood feuds over the dumbest possible type of misunderstanding. And they'll continue to do this again and again with impressive consistency.
They can't even wait for someone to finish their sentence before showering them in profanity because any hesitation of outburst might cause the chat to think they agree with what's being said. I've always found Perch to be relatively useless but Jon Malin will always be King Ape-Brain.
@Mister Dongs


Hey, whatever happened to that fotie guy? It seemed like he was all the thread ever talked about for like a week and then never mentioned again.
It was a very slow week for CG news.
Did you miss his autistic screeching at B. Clay Moore in the street?
This. Don't mistake Cummins for being dumb or autistic like the standard subjects around here. I mean he's both of those things, but more importantly, Phil Cummings is fucking insane. The man is like a walking argument for the return of involuntary commitment, and he's getting worse as time goes on.
 
I'm not convinced that people actually write to Perch and it is not him just making it all up to talk about shit that he wants to talk about.
I think people do write to him. I would guess most of Perch's audience are people who do see that these diversity hires and woke political stories are killing mainstream comics, but don't want to say anything out loud because they are still terrified of being called one or more of the buzzwords(racist, sexist, homophobic etc.). Pretty much just like Perch.
 
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