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He launched an entire "IP" on spec in conjunction with a full year (!) of blind hype while sycophants clamor to throw $50 and $100 superchats at him for the privilege of asking when they can buy related merch for comic book characters they hadn't even seen. At some point while following all this (because I sincerely and quite sympathetically do have a real interest in what he's doing, acerbic bantz notwithstanding) I came to the conclusion that it just is what it is. It's not going to be a trainwreck. It's not going to be a particular triumph. There probably isn't enough grifting happening to make it interesting, nor will it be shitty enough to be worth mocking. Rippa likes to talk of "grassroots" but it will never be that because of the very gay and rarefied air of YouTube and the manner with which is approached it. Whatever integrity this weird hype train was a (mild) affront to probably died with the advent of social media e-celebrity long before this hype began. At some point, getting annoyed about it is on par with finding out your friend or co-worker just started a "health and wellness" "business" and is now encouraging you to try Alpha Male Vitality pills and to consider becoming a distributor. Not for me and I can't look at you quite the same way again, but all the best. I'm sure it's great being up on stage breathing that gay and rarefied air but from this perspective it's kinda gross and annoying, but whatever.


Vid related on multiple levels.



I'm reminded of the rightist aphorism to the effect of "all movements that aren't explicitly right-wing will eventually becoming left-wing". Seems like there is some gay internet dunking booth streamer corollary here. Something about the default state for said streamers being no-count, degenerate, grab-assy chucklefucks and how to avoid it. Like Ethan should have pulled that brake lever labeled "integrity" a ways' back to prevent this very situation: Cecil owes people and it's treated as a punchline to a joke, 3rd and 4th rate skanks enticed by uncontested male attention, drama that would make the most vapid high schooler cringe, etc.


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Here's the Rippaverse trailer. Nailing his thesis to the motherfucker like Martin Luther right out the gate is a nice touch. He's taking himself very seriously which is an interesting contrast to the current state of CG.


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I'm kind of confused what Rippa is exactly contributing to his own project. I'm assuming he didn't draw any of it. Is he the writer or did someone else craft dialogue and plot from his general storyline ideas? Did he create every character or are others contributing?
 
I'm reminded of the rightist aphorism to the effect of "all movements that aren't explicitly right-wing will eventually becoming left-wing". Seems like there is some gay internet dunking booth streamer corollary here. Something about the default state for said streamers being no-count, degenerate, grab-assy chucklefucks and how to avoid it. Like Ethan should have pulled that brake lever labeled "integrity" a ways' back to prevent this very situation: Cecil owes people and it's treated as a punchline to a joke, 3rd and 4th rate skanks enticed by uncontested male attention, drama that would make the most vapid high schooler cringe, etc.
He's not ignorant of the problems, either. Internally, he knows. It's putting his realizations into actions that seems to be a sticking point for Ethan. Look how long it took him to realize that Zack is stupid, and no... he's not coming back into the fold. Old Zack is dead. New Zack is not CG, and is also a few cans short of a six pack. I think Ethan probably figured that out a long time ago, and just deluded himself into believing reality wasn't reality. Only now is he admitting what everybody has long known.

But Zack isn't even really the main issue for CG. Everybody with a brain gave up on him a while back. He's been circling the drain post-Waid. What's more interesting to me is that, every once in awhile, Ethan lets the masque slip ever so slightly on current issues, but then tightens those straps as soon as he realizes it's slipping.

He has all but said Cecil is an embarrassment with how Cash Grab hasn't been fulfilled. Even saying he'd probably kill him if he lived close to him.
He has said that there are many many reasons to dislike JDA, and acknowledges that he starts fights with anyone and everyone so that he can appear the victim.

Imagine if he told Cecil that he can't come on any of his livestreams until he fulfills Cash Grab? Imagine if he told JDA that he ain't gonna back him whenever he's the aggressor in a fight and suffers the consequences for needlessly stirring shit?

But he always pulls his punches. None of it ever translates into a serious a recrimination, or even "tough love," that could lead to behavioral change for the good of his movement. He does not leverage the power he has in that people orbiting CG crave his approval. Consequently, morons are convinced Ethan will always have their back as long as they toe the anti-SJW line in one way or another and give a hearty "hail Comicsgate." That they have carte blanch to engage in whatever idiotic behavior they want no matter. And to a very real extent... they're right. He consistently goes out of his way to ignore all the internal faggotry.

Some movements slavishly adopt the maxim that you should never "punch right," but that basically means all other deplorable conduct is ignored and the movement's reputation suffers.

Ethan could be a leader, but choses not to be. That's his choice, but rudderless, you can't help but think that CG is nothing more than a motley crew of grifters that hit their peek a long time ago.
 
Thanks for the share! The suggestions actually grew on me, so releasing with a new title name on launch, new artist, same great story. We had a preview in Bulletmaker, and all my content there is a great representation of quality you will receive from my camp.

We are publishing late legend Dheeraj Verma's last work and artist for Mike Baron's Thin Blue Line Joseph Arnold is hired to continue. Joe actually did all the concept work originally, art in my opener videos, and the preview in Bulletmaker featuring Mammoth Monk.

As for old threads, I mean have a laugh. Entertainment should be fun, I'm an awkward nerd and I know it haha but I'll make a better book than all these hater chumps who talk shit about me 😂
Oh God, the self fellatio faggots here are multiplying. We already have @TheCosmicWarrior, we don't need another.
 
He's not ignorant of the problems, either. Internally, he knows. It's putting his realizations into actions that seems to be a sticking point for Ethan. Look how long it took him to realize that Zack is stupid, and no... he's not coming back into the fold. Old Zack is dead. New Zack is not CG, and is also a few cans short of a six pack. I think Ethan probably figured that out a long time ago, and just deluded himself into believing reality wasn't reality. Only now is he admitting what everybody has long known.

But Zack isn't even really the main issue for CG. Everybody with a brain gave up on him a while back. He's been circling the drain post-Waid. What's more interesting to me is that, every once in awhile, Ethan lets the masque slip ever so slightly on current issues, but then tightens those straps as soon as he realizes it's slipping.

He has all but said Cecil is an embarrassment with how Cash Grab hasn't been fulfilled. Even saying he'd probably kill him if he lived close to him.
He has said that there are many many reasons to dislike JDA, and acknowledges that he starts fights with anyone and everyone so that he can appear the victim.

Imagine if he told Cecil that he can't come on any of his livestreams until he fulfills Cash Grab? Imagine if he told JDA that he ain't gonna back him whenever he's the aggressor in a fight and suffers the consequences for needlessly stirring shit?

But he always pulls his punches. None of it ever translates into a serious a recrimination, or even "tough love," that could lead to behavioral change for the good of his movement. He does not leverage the power he has in that people orbiting CG crave his approval. Consequently, morons are convinced Ethan will always have their back as long as they toe the anti-SJW line in one way or another and give a hearty "hail Comicsgate." That they have carte blanch to engage in whatever idiotic behavior they want no matter. And to a very real extent... they're right. He consistently goes out of his way to ignore all the internal faggotry.

Some movements slavishly adopt the maxim that you should never "punch right," but that basically means all other deplorable conduct is ignored and the movement's reputation suffers.

Ethan could be a leader, but choses not to be. That's his choice, but rudderless, you can't help but think that CG is nothing more than a motley crew of grifters that hit their peek a long time ago.
Even when he does disown someone a year later he's trying to "rehab" them to welcome them back into the fold. *cough cough* Liam/Micah *cough cough*.

It's all an act to drive Youtube ratings and superchats. A contrived soap opera for f'ing weirdos.
 
Narcissism is a helluva disorder.
Even when he does disown someone a year later he's trying to "rehab" them to welcome them back into the fold. *cough cough* Liam/Micah *cough cough*.

It's all an act to drive Youtube ratings and superchats. A contrived soap opera for f'ing weirdos.
 
It's all an act to drive Youtube ratings and superchats. A contrived soap opera for f'ing weirdos.
More importantly, all of this has painfully little to do with getting comics out in the market. If it was, that would be priority #1.

It may well be that none of these people could get a job in mainstream comics due to their politics, but let's not delude ourselves into thinking that's the only issue they face. If Donald Trump or Elon Musk owned Marvel or D.C., a lot of these retards would be fired for poor work performance in short order. Watching CG is like watching the most ham fisted rebellion to a pathetic industry that should be easy to compete with.

Meanwhile, Manga sales continue to climb because, ya know.... no leftest pandering + actual work ethic = win.
 
He's not ignorant of the problems, either. Internally, he knows. It's putting his realizations into actions that seems to be a sticking point for Ethan. Look how long it took him to realize that Zack is stupid, and no... he's not coming back into the fold. Old Zack is dead. New Zack is not CG, and is also a few cans short of a six pack. I think Ethan probably figured that out a long time ago, and just deluded himself into believing reality wasn't reality. Only now is he admitting what everybody has long known.

But Zack isn't even really the main issue for CG. Everybody with a brain gave up on him a while back. He's been circling the drain post-Waid. What's more interesting to me is that, every once in awhile, Ethan lets the masque slip ever so slightly on current issues, but then tightens those straps as soon as he realizes it's slipping.

He has all but said Cecil is an embarrassment with how Cash Grab hasn't been fulfilled. Even saying he'd probably kill him if he lived close to him.
He has said that there are many many reasons to dislike JDA, and acknowledges that he starts fights with anyone and everyone so that he can appear the victim.

Imagine if he told Cecil that he can't come on any of his livestreams until he fulfills Cash Grab? Imagine if he told JDA that he ain't gonna back him whenever he's the aggressor in a fight and suffers the consequences for needlessly stirring shit?

But he always pulls his punches. None of it ever translates into a serious a recrimination, or even "tough love," that could lead to behavioral change for the good of his movement. He does not leverage the power he has in that people orbiting CG crave his approval. Consequently, morons are convinced Ethan will always have their back as long as they toe the anti-SJW line in one way or another and give a hearty "hail Comicsgate." That they have carte blanch to engage in whatever idiotic behavior they want no matter. And to a very real extent... they're right. He consistently goes out of his way to ignore all the internal faggotry.

Some movements slavishly adopt the maxim that you should never "punch right," but that basically means all other deplorable conduct is ignored and the movement's reputation suffers.

Ethan could be a leader, but choses not to be. That's his choice, but rudderless, you can't help but think that CG is nothing more than a motley crew of grifters that hit their peek a long time ago.
I agree with your assessment of CG and Ethan, but there is a perfect reason that he doesn't act logically. He already made a shitload of poor decisions and has painted himself into a youtube corner.

He let Cecil and Anna cancel people over some lame misogynistic narrative so they could protect their gay Dynamite deal that fell through. He can't effectively scold people for late books because he is just as late. His content is suffering because he disavowed anyone who tried to help him with criticism, so now its anything goes and has diluted the movement as you say. There are no consequences anymore so there is no motivation to actually match or surpass mainstream quality or at least be good enough to be a legitimate alternative. There are only consequences if you don't recite the tired, now meaningless rhetoric on cue or step in line blindly. Anyone who doesn't kneel without question is labeled AntiCG or some other brush stroke. Fuck that noise!

This is all a direct result of his poor, self serving decisions and the fact that he is trying to dance around being a hypocrite at the cost of our comic movement for his own personal gain and career ventures. Fucking sad, but true.

Oh God, the self fellatio faggots here are multiplying. We already have @TheCosmicWarrior, we don't need another.
Those are just facts i gave, so I disagree.....but I won't refute the fact that JDA is a gaypotato, I'll let him speak for himself 😂
 
He let Cecil and Anna cancel people over some lame misogynistic narrative so they could protect their gay Dynamite deal that fell through.

Cecil and Anna didn’t “cancel” you. You all spent months reminding everyone that you’re obnoxious assholes and complete pieces of shit that nobody likes. You have nobody to blame for that but yourselves.
 
Cecil and Anna didn’t “cancel” you. You all spent months reminding everyone that you’re obnoxious assholes and complete pieces of shit that nobody likes. You have nobody to blame for that but yourselves.
Nobody cancelled me. This was all drama before I joined, had nothing to do with me, to be honest.

With responses like this, I cannot wait to read what a wordsmith like you has to offer.
Its gonna be good. Stay tuned, random internet raccoon.
 
But he always pulls his punches. None of it ever translates into a serious a recrimination, or even "tough love," that could lead to behavioral change for the good of his movement. He does not leverage the power he has in that people orbiting CG crave his approval. Consequently, morons are convinced Ethan will always have their back as long as they toe the anti-SJW line in one way or another and give a hearty "hail Comicsgate." That they have carte blanch to engage in whatever idiotic behavior they want no matter. And to a very real extent... they're right. He consistently goes out of his way to ignore all the internal faggotry.
...Until it can no longer be ignored. I can't lead something that doesn't want to be lead, and ComicsGaters have said, "NO LEADERS" a hundred times when this topic comes up.

I run my own business and use my YouTube channel to promote other creators. I'm narrowing my focus lately only on formerly mainstream professionals who are at least capable of drawing and writing comics. Fulfillment is really up to them, and since "ComicsGate" as a creative force is just a conglomerate of small businesses cooperating with each other for promotion, the only discipline I can hand down is to stop promoting certain campaigns.

Was Campaign dumbasses like Word Nerd simultaneously want me to gatekeep "problematic" CGers while complaining that this is what was done to them. In fact, I try my best not to gatekeep anyone who wants to be ComicsGate from the general "community", because that should be the role of the community itself. I didn't kick Was Campaign out, they kicked themselves out. And they did that because I wouldn't "punish" Cecil and Jon Malin for pointing out how everyone had come to hate Was Campaign. They'd become such despicable assholes that nobody could tolerate their presence.

Was Campaign showed themselves the door, and we locked it behind them.

Stop crying and move the fuck on.
 
I clearly shouldn't have taken my eyes off of this thread.


Welcome to the farms, Word Nerd. Joining the forum is a bit of an improvement from last year when you and your crew attempted to cry rape a

I clearly shouldn't have taken my eyes off of this thread.


Welcome to the farms, Word Nerd. Joining the forum is a bit of an improvement from last year when you and your crew attempted to cry rape at us.
I think some degenerates who were concern trolling my book teams gave the forum a bad impression to someone like me who didn't understand with 0 experience. I see it clearly now as an open, uncensored forum, and I actually prefer that.
 
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Is he the writer or did someone else craft dialogue and plot from his general storyline ideas?
"Writer" according to himself but I guess that means different things to different people. Watching the announcement stream, the trailer, and his appearance on FNT, it's really becoming clear how having an unlimited supply of nervous white guys clamoring to do things for you can be a major asset. He's got the charisma, mission statement, social proof in the form of dozens of fellow YouTubers functioning as a sort of rough replacement for actual comics industry cred, and the ability to dip his toes in multiple media categories. Oh, and he's (very) black. Now all he has to do is deliver a minimally-viable product in a satisfactory manner. Contrast this with @FROG struggling to suffer through even an hour or so of JACK Show last night, 100% less CG Kings for 100% more Anna TSWG, be-clowning himself in a way he's clearly not entirely comfortable with. What a contrast, but this weekend will be the peak of Rippa's power level fueled by hype alone. But even if worst case it's an uninspired "generic" vanity project, the sum total of what Eric is doing checks off so many of CG's boxes i'd be looking to up my game if I were @FROG , et al. But that's not a bad thing.

I wonder if it can be saved by writing and character, or will it match those others and be a polemic for libertarianism or anarcho-capitalism or whatever Erics non-political politics are?
Part of his mission statement is explicitly denying ideology and identity in the content. It's about the art, or whatever. Now, if it were up to me, like most of what he's done so far I wouldn't sperg about it. I'd just shut up and do it and surprise everyone. It's not like he's a nobody going into this. But this is how he rolls and and more power to him. Maybe the swagger and sperging is how you swim with these sharks. I dunno. At the very least, pushing-back against ideologically-motivated content avoids descending into Christian rock -esque heavyhanded-ness. He'll be at least trying not to produce political Chick tracts, which I guess is good. At this point, the Founder Effect ought to weigh heavy on him and like @Captain Manning touched on, leadership matters.


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"Yira" or "Yyra" or some such thing. Another major Rippaverse character. Nice and thicc. Powers include pelvis-crushing Coital Rage.


Some movements slavishly adopt the maxim that you should never "punch right," but that basically means all other deplorable conduct is ignored and the movement's reputation suffers.
Yeah. Your points are valid, but there is a real problem with no one really knowing wtf is really going on with this "movement".

Ethan could be a leader, but choses not to be.
I don't think it suits him, to be honest. Not with this level of exposure and that exposure is necessitated by his productivity level. I don't think this is a movement or even a "scene". It's some kind of circus / carnival midway syndicate-of-convenience delivered via the internet with a splash of fraternal organization and drinking establishment opened to voyeurs and hecklers. As it's success goes, so will it's tendency to be dragged towards whatever the base level of "entertainment" is for the operative demographic (with every midway's tendency to want to take easy money off of willing rubes). Ethan's interests would seem to be maintaining nominal control over it while simultaneously maintaining plausible deniability about having no real control over it. This all goes back to The Founder Effect as I think if it had come out of something slightly less self-righteous and more transparent, shit like Cecil's scamming might be taken in the spirit it's perpetrated as a walk down the midway.
 
Meyer feels any obligation to anyone or anything other than himself as an unbearable imposition, but placed himself in the middle of a movement/group/community founded on people throwing their time, money and in some cases even careers on the pyre out of supporting others out of 'solidarity'. When he was the primary beneficiary of the solidarity, CG was a force against cancel culture. When it came time for him to lift a finger to help someone in kind, CG magically ceased to be a group. All this fanfiction about "severe social anxiety", just like last week's "he can only form friends with his fellow squadmates" or "he just wants to disappear" is just today's cope about the incredibly obvious. Does he refuse to promote or discuss anyone else's work because of social anxiety too?

It's the inherent contradiction of Simple Zack's years of espousing a personal and business philosophy that all interactions should be transactional like "the comic industry is like a hot dog stand", "community shouldn't exist in comics, only 'the industry" and "if it doesn't have a number describing what I'm getting out of it I'm not doing it", while in reality ekeing out an existence holding out an empty sack appealing to likeminded people, creators and communities to lend him the money to hire a writer, an artist, a fulfillment agency, a defamation lawyer, etc. so he can have a business despite not being competitive with the mainstream on nearly every level, that leads to this sense of "debt". It's his inability to extricate himself from this contradiction that leads him to feelings of being "trapped". The only way out for him is to either have the actual, real functional business he talks about how everyone else should have or just fuck off already.

He doesn't want to "fade into obscurity and go back to a normie IT job" by the way. He could get a "normie IT job" as a third party IT contractor in McAllen, Texas doing what he was doing any time he wants. What Meyer actually wants is for the SJWs in comics to forgive him, without him having to apologize, and acknowledge him as a real big boy publisher who is allowed sell to the direct market and Bookline, and all his complaints amount to a 50 year old having a big crying jag because it's super unfair these people don't go out of their way to help out the singular guy who built his business off of shitting on them and inspired countless others to do the same. "I'm trapped!" the transaction-based guru cries out, "These SJWs should give me everything I want because it's the right thing of them to do!"

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I can't say how Zack feels, because none of us know. Most we can hope for is informed speculation.
I would like to add though, YBZ DID promote CG projects, regularly. He and Ethan were close and he was promoting even if he was not live streaming. I think all the subtle pokes about not being involved enough, and finally the skepticism that EVS showed towards Zack's new $1 campaign, crossed a line, and he gave his opinion. These guys are grown men, I don't care what they think of eachother, but at the core, its EVS being wrong with his hot takes at the center of the drama once again.
 
"Writer" according to himself but I guess that means different things to different people. Watching the announcement stream, the trailer, and his appearance on FNT, it's really becoming clear how having an unlimited supply of nervous white guys clamoring to do things for you can be a major asset. He's got the charisma, mission statement, social proof in the form of dozens of fellow YouTubers functioning as a sort of rough replacement for actual comics industry cred, and the ability to dip his toes in multiple media categories. Oh, and he's (very) black. Now all he has to do is deliver a minimally-viable product in a satisfactory manner. Contrast this with @FROG struggling to suffer through even an hour or so of JACK Show last night, 100% less CG Kings for 100% more Anna TSWG, be-clowning himself in a way he's clearly not entirely comfortable with. What a contrast, but this weekend will be the peak of Rippa's power level fueled by hype alone. But even if worst case it's an uninspired "generic" vanity project, the sum total of what Eric is doing checks off so many of CG's boxes i'd be looking to up my game if I were @FROG , et al. But that's not a bad thing.


Part of his mission statement is explicitly denying ideology and identity in the content. It's about the art, or whatever. Now, if it were up to me, like most of what he's done so far I wouldn't sperg about it. I'd just shut up and do it and surprise everyone. It's not like he's a nobody going into this. But this is how he rolls and and more power to him. Maybe the swagger and sperging is how you swim with these sharks. I dunno. At the very least, pushing-back against ideologically-motivated content avoids descending into Christian rock -esque heavyhanded-ness. He'll be at least trying not to produce political Chick tracts, which I guess is good. At this point, the Founder Effect ought to weigh heavy on him and like @Captain Manning touched on, leadership matters.


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"Yira" or "Yyra" or some such thing. Another major Rippaverse character. Nice and thicc. Powers include pelvis-crushing Coital Rage.



Yeah. Your points are valid, but there is a real problem with no one really knowing wtf is really going on with this "movement".


I don't think it suits him, to be honest. Not with this level of exposure and that exposure is necessitated by his productivity level. I don't think this is a movement or even a "scene". It's some kind of circus / carnival midway syndicate-of-convenience delivered via the internet with a splash of fraternal organization and drinking establishment opened to voyeurs and hecklers. As it's success goes, so will it's tendency to be dragged towards whatever the base level of "entertainment" is for the operative demographic (with every midway's tendency to want to take easy money off of willing rubes). Ethan's interests would seem to be maintaining nominal control over it while simultaneously maintaining plausible deniability about having no real control over it. This all goes back to The Founder Effect as I think if it had come out of something slightly less self-righteous and more transparent, shit like Cecil's scamming might be taken in the spirit it's perpetrated as a walk down the midway.
I'm curious how ownership of any characters not created by Rippa will be handled. A whole new universe is going to require a lot of characters and having one person invent everyth8ing about every one of them seems like trouble.
 
I'm curious how ownership of any characters not created by Rippa will be handled. A whole new universe is going to require a lot of characters and having one person invent everyth8ing about every one of them seems like trouble.
Many others in this thread could speak on that better than I could but I'm guessing he's "creating" all of it insofar as he's Idea Guy-ing the whole thing and retaining ownership. A "universe" need only be a few characters with their own narratives and some worldbuilding tying it all together.
 
His content is suffering because he disavowed anyone who tried to help him with criticism, so now its anything goes and has diluted the movement as you say.
Yes that's what WC was known for, their sober and measured criticism of their anointed Caesar who they vowed to protect from any and all threats as well as their promotion of quality works like Cash Grab and Wart the Wizard. Thank you Wordnerd for gracing us with your radioactive dripping cum handprint avatar.


Imagine if he told Cecil that he can't come on any of his livestreams until he fulfills Cash Grab?
Imagine if he told JDA that he ain't gonna back him whenever he's the aggressor in a fight and suffers the consequences for needlessly stirring shit?

Well, one of the things going on here is that there are underlying problems in Comicsgate that run far deeper than reading the riot act to two people.

For one, the JACK Show these days gets a higher average viewcount than Frog's streams while Cecil seems to be moving away from comics and into being the face of some sort of simp acceptance "anti-SJW" youtube scene. And most of his coomer degen audience that's still around at this point don't really seem to care whether they get their book or not anyway; anyone who cared about receiving a comic left long ago. It would needlessly split the remaining CG fanbase, isn't really guaranteed to get Cecil to do shit, may just worsen the situation, and there's no real evidence to suggest that the people lost in the split would be made up for by people won back into the fold.

A better course of action would be building up people capable of delivering the sort of quality Comicsgate was built upon promising like Graham Nolan, Kenneth Rocafort, Shane Davis, Shelby Robertson, Andy Smith, Aaron Lopresti and so on instead of driving off the few remaining people with a platform, which Frog has been painstakingly doing since late 2020. It's as agonizing and slowgoing as trying to building up #ISWV personalities in 2022 would be, but it's probably the reason why Comicsgate shrank by a "mere" 28% last year (and is on the upswing now as far as sales go) instead of a far, far worse drop.

JDA, for his constant secondhand Vox Dei tactics and IBS-inspired rabble rousing, is one of the few creators in CG actively engaging with the outside world and attempting something than a bunch of rectangles "hanging out with the chat" to an audience of no one, the sort that Zack called a sign of mental illness after a certain point. That a badly run efap/Trash Compactor amalgam is able to get the views it's currently getting just goes to show the unmet demand for livestreams with an actual subject. Finatra somehow getting more than 50 live viewers lately as he improbably beefs with a Marvel pro over his robot penis OC is another troubling sign about the growing unwatchability of everything else in CG.

What I'm trying to say is punishing two guys for transgressions against Comicsgate law or whatever is easy enough, but trying to fix an fanbase that has been self-selected to consist of people who no longer care about comics in any meaningful sense, or singlehandledly forcing a community of livestreamers to make interesting content is beyond any single person's ability.
 
Yes that's what WC was known for, their sober and measured criticism of their anointed Caesar who they vowed to protect from any and all threats as well as their promotion of quality works like Cash Grab and Wart the Wizard. Thank you Wordnerd for gracing us with your radioactive dripping cum handprint avatar.




Well, one of the things going on here is that there are underlying problems in Comicsgate that run far deeper than reading the riot act to two people.

For one, the JACK Show these days gets a higher average viewcount than Frog's streams, while Cecil seems to be moving away from comics and into being the face of some sort of simp acceptance "anti-SJW" youtube scene. And most of his coomer degen audience that's still around at this point don't really seem to care whether they get their book or not anyway; anyone who cared about receiving a comic left long ago. It would needlessly split the remaining CG fanbase, isn't really guaranteed to get Cecil to do shit, may just worsen the situation, and there's no real evidence to suggest that the people lost in the split would be made up for by people won back into the fold.

A better course of action would be building up people capable of delivering the sort of quality Comicsgate was built upon promising like Graham Nolan, Kenneth Rocafort, Shane Davis, Shelby Robertson, Andy Smith, Aaron Lopresti and so on instead of driving off the few remaining people with a platform, which Frog has been painstakingly doing since late 2020. It's as agonizingly slow as trying to building up #ISWV personalities in 2022, but it's probably the reason why Comicsgate shrank by a "mere" 28% last year (and is on the upswing now as far as sales go) instead of a far, far worse drop.

JDA, for his constant secondhand Vox Dei tactics and IBS-inspired rabble rousing, is one of the few creators in CG actively engaging with the outside world and attempting something than a bunch of rectangles "hanging out with the chat" to an audience of no one, the sort that Zack called a sign of mental illness after a certain point. That a badly run efap/Trash Compactor amalgam is able to get the views it's currently getting just goes to show the unmet demand for livestreams with an actual subject. Finatra somehow getting more than 50 live viewers lately as he improbably beefs with a Marvel pro over his robot penis OC is another troubling sign about the growing unwatchability of everything else in CG.

What I'm trying to say is punishing two guys for transgressions against Comicsgate law or whatever is easy enough, but trying to fix an fanbase that has been self-selected to consist of people who no longer care about comics in any meaningful sense, or singlehandledly forcing a community of livestreamers to make interesting content is beyond any single person's ability.
I can't say, I didn't promote or back Cash Grab or Wart the Wizard, and never vowed to do anything. I think it's lazy to approach me with a broad brush when I have nothing to do with the show or anything you mentioned. As for the cum handprint, most people see paint first, then jizz, but I won't judge you for reading my comment before dinner. 😂

Just fucking with you, have a good night Dongs
 
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