#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[BlankSpaceBaby]

What I'm trying to say is punishing two guys for transgressions against Comicsgate law or whatever is easy enough, but trying to fix an fanbase that has been self-selected to consist of people who no longer care about comics in any meaningful sense, or singlehandledly forcing a community of livestreamers to make interesting content is beyond any single person's ability.

I see this in the book community too, in that eventually, the key players involved got into so much drama and gay ops with one another, the people that want to talk about books quietly leave the scene. The people left behind are those that crave blood and bickering. These are the people with short to zero attention span - the very last people to read books or comics and, therefore, a crowd that will not heavily invest in the properties being marketed at them.

It's definitely a self-selected and self-inflicted course of development. Having seen this often enough, I also wonder whether one can even sustain a long-term marketing plan when you primarily try to sell books and comics to people that, well, prefer to spend their time online watching other things. Maybe the two forms of media are inherently incompatible for the most part.

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

Nobody cancelled me. This was all drama before I joined, had nothing to do with me, to be honest.


Its gonna be good. Stay tuned, random internet raccoon.

Hayvard.

 

[9th legion centurion 002]

@The Ghost of CG Past I'm curious, what exactly are Mammoth Monk's powers, and if a hypothetical fight took place between him and Cyberfrog, who would win?

 

[The Ghost of CG Past]

@The Ghost of CG Past I'm curious, what exactly are Mammoth Monk's powers, and if a hypothetical fight took place between him and Cyberfrog, who would win?

Mammoth is a martial artist, descendant of a tribe of Pachydermian Monks that evolved from human re-population of woolly mammoths from extinct DNA. His master Gui Gou Ru taught "The Way of the Butterfly" to temper their brute strength with tranquility and grace, and his dead master watches over him in the form of a flock of spiritual butterflies.

He weighs nearly 2 tons and is solid muscle. Imagine the hulk only instead of Gamma Radiation he is a trained martial artist and has a spiritual 6th sense in combat given by his ever present master.

So I think without his weapons, Cyberfrog would be dead meat. If he gets his guns, it might complicate the fight, just to be fair and not start a "my hero could kick your hero's ass" dweeb argument.

I am primarily a writer, but this is a promo piece I drew personally and paid an inker and colorist to finish it up.

 

[FROG]

Don't piss all over a fun question around here.

Personally, I love questions about superhero power match ups. I don't know how you can claim to love comics otherwise.

Judging by WordNerd's elephant man design, Cyberfrog could probably handle him in an even fight. CyberFrog has Spider-Man level strength, and his legs are even stronger. He's probably faster than this guy, and half of his body is armored.

If CyberFrog were online with Kjell Sinn and able to rapid evolve, it would be no contest.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

With responses like this, I cannot wait to read what a wordsmith like you has to offer.

I think some degenerates who were concern trolling my book teams gave the forum a bad impression to someone like me who didn't understand with 0 experience. I see it clearly now as an open, uncensored forum, and I actually prefer that.

I can wait. I can wait forever if I have to.

He'll be at least trying not to produce political Chick tracts, which I guess is good.

Some of Erics recent videos started turning up in my youtube recommends. In one, he tried to assert he wasn't a political person. I laughed. He might try not to produce political Chick tracts, but I have a feeling a lecture about falling for Lefty Lucifers Liberal Lies is going to work its way in there.

Personally, I love questions about superhero power match ups. I don't know how you can claim to love comics otherwise.

It's true, the more I see utter autists sperg about fictional magic man #1 beating up fictional magic man #2, the more I hate comics.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Mammoth is a martial artist, descendant of a tribe of Pachydermian Monks that evolved from human re-population of woolly mammoths from extinct DNA. His master Gui Gou Ru taught "The Way of the Butterfly" to temper their brute strength with tranquility and grace, and his dead master watches over him in the form of a flock of spiritual butterflies.

He weighs nearly 2 tons and is solid muscle. Imagine the hulk only instead of Gamma Radiation he is a trained martial artist and has a spiritual 6th sense in combat given by his ever present master.

So I think without his weapons, Cyberfrog would be dead meat. If he gets his guns, it might complicate the fight, just to be fair and not start a "my hero could kick your hero's ass" dweeb argument.

I am primarily a writer, but this is a promo piece I drew personally and paid an inker and colorist to finish it up.

Don't piss all over a fun question around here.

Personally, I love questions about superhero power match ups. I don't know how you can claim to love comics otherwise.

Judging by WordNerd's elephant man design, Cyberfrog could probably handle him in an even fight. CyberFrog has Spider-Man level strength, and his legs are even stronger. He's probably faster than this guy, and half of his body is armored.

If CyberFrog were online with Kjell Sinn and able to rapid evolve, it would be no contest.

The ol' "David vs. Goliath" match up.
- One is large, can tank damage that can fell anyone smaller, and exert force that can obliterate most obstacles.
- The other is smaller, more faster and nimble, has stamina for days, and while unable to exert the same amount force around a similar surface area, the trade off is focusing on on a pinpoint target and paralyzing them with precise strikes.

 

[The Ghost of CG Past]

Don't piss all over a fun question around here.

Personally, I love questions about superhero power match ups. I don't know how you can claim to love comics otherwise.

Judging by WordNerd's elephant man design, Cyberfrog could probably handle him in an even fight. CyberFrog has Spider-Man level strength, and his legs are even stronger. He's probably faster than this guy, and half of his body is armored.

If CyberFrog were online with Kjell Sinn and able to rapid evolve, it would be no contest.

I would have to respectfully disagree. Kingpin was a formidable matchup for Spiderman, all muscle, but only a fraction of the size of Mammoth, and he is a trained martial arts master.


If a chicken eating amphibian brain could even process the level of superhuman physical ability, I think Mammoth's training would be too much, even for his leg strength. Not to mention his master with him in spirit at all times, he is hyper aware and carries the wisdom of two masters, not one.


We have no reference of the power level of Kjell Sinn, or its effect on Cyberfrog, because you won't draw the fucking books, but I'll remain optimistic that with guns we are all better, so we shall see.

 

[Analog Devolved]

YBZ's career RIP

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

@FROG You're going to Anime Matsuri, right?
Is it true @PocketJacks is going to be there this year, too?

 

[jspit2.0]

Don't piss all over a fun question around here.

Personally, I love questions about superhero power match ups. I don't know how you can claim to love comics otherwise.

Judging by WordNerd's elephant man design, Cyberfrog could probably handle him in an even fight. CyberFrog has Spider-Man level strength, and his legs are even stronger. He's probably faster than this guy, and half of his body is armored.

If CyberFrog were online with Kjell Sinn and able to rapid evolve, it would be no contest.

GoKu WoUlD BeAt ThEm Up!

I can wait. I can wait forever if I have to.



Some of Erics recent videos started turning up in my youtube recommends. In one, he tried to assert he wasn't a political person. I laughed. He might try not to produce political Chick tracts, but I have a feeling a lecture about falling for Lefty Lucifers Liberal Lies is going to work its way in there.



It's true, the more I see utter autists sperg about fictional magic man #1 beating up fictional magic man #2, the more I hate comics.

I personally love treating two people fighting for their lives like slamming plastic action figures together.

 

[A nameless trool]

He's not ignorant of the problems, either. Internally, he knows. It's putting his realizations into actions that seems to be a sticking point for Ethan. Look how long it took him to realize that Zack is stupid, and no... he's not coming back into the fold. Old Zack is dead. New Zack is not CG, and is also a few cans short of a six pack. I think Ethan probably figured that out a long time ago, and just deluded himself into believing reality wasn't reality. Only now is he admitting what everybody has long known.

But Zack isn't even really the main issue for CG. Everybody with a brain gave up on him a while back. He's been circling the drain post-Waid. What's more interesting to me is that, every once in awhile, Ethan lets the masque slip ever so slightly on current issues, but then tightens those straps as soon as he realizes it's slipping.

He has all but said Cecil is an embarrassment with how Cash Grab hasn't been fulfilled. Even saying he'd probably kill him if he lived close to him.
He has said that there are many many reasons to dislike JDA, and acknowledges that he starts fights with anyone and everyone so that he can appear the victim.

Imagine if he told Cecil that he can't come on any of his livestreams until he fulfills Cash Grab? Imagine if he told JDA that he ain't gonna back him whenever he's the aggressor in a fight and suffers the consequences for needlessly stirring shit?

But he always pulls his punches. None of it ever translates into a serious a recrimination, or even "tough love," that could lead to behavioral change for the good of his movement. He does not leverage the power he has in that people orbiting CG crave his approval. Consequently, morons are convinced Ethan will always have their back as long as they toe the anti-SJW line in one way or another and give a hearty "hail Comicsgate." That they have carte blanch to engage in whatever idiotic behavior they want no matter. And to a very real extent... they're right. He consistently goes out of his way to ignore all the internal faggotry.

Some movements slavishly adopt the maxim that you should never "punch right," but that basically means all other deplorable conduct is ignored and the movement's reputation suffers.

Ethan could be a leader, but choses not to be. That's his choice, but rudderless, you can't help but think that CG is nothing more than a motley crew of grifters that hit their peek a long time ago.

The problem with @FROG is that he needs fwiends.

He thrives on creating parasocial relationships, creating armies of fans to attack his internet enemies and views his peers as friends then feels betrayed when he finds out they are not.

YBZ was one of his FB army members. He was also working with him when they were at war.
He also was the chief anti-CG personality, only less retarded alog, for quite some time. EVS never got the hint.
As for his "ghey for Zack" it is probably because Zack outdid him and showed him the way and probably saved his career. It is more gratefulness than anything else.

The problem with Zack is that he is a true believer sort of guy.
He probably made anonymous rage comics videos for the shekels, but he also believed what he was saying and he does not believe in it no more.
He went into a lot of rage videos against Mags and Heather and whatshername queer and brown person then realized that they are more like avatars for a broken system (but in Zack logic) then forgot about it and made more rage videos and the circle continues.
He had a phrase for SJWs that was spot on: "They can't human very well". And so does he.
He feels like he is an android in a very convincing skinsuit that can, short-term, appear intelligent, somewhat articulate and likeable, then some bugs will enter the code and he will go on some erratic behaviour.
And he either does not understand how parasocial relationships work or he does understand them and does not want to encourage them.
Throw him in a group of people with petty grievances and grifters and he will tilt within seconds.

 

[Captain Manning]

Oh God, the self fellatio faggots here are multiplying. We already have @TheCosmicWarrior, we don't need another.

Between the two of them, if it leads to this...

...I'm actually okay with it.

Fulfillment is really up to them, and since "ComicsGate" as a creative force is just a conglomerate of small businesses cooperating with each other for promotion, the only discipline I can hand down is to stop promoting certain campaigns.

Which is the sum of my suggestion with respect to Cecil. Stop inviting him on your show and drawing more attention to his rank incompetence as a core CG member. It's an embarrassing look for CG. What I am basically suggesting here is a lack of action.

But the choice is yours. I'm giving you what I think is a helpful suggestion that would improve the image of CG among the non-SJW types (the people you'd presumably want to court). At some point you might want to consider that giving an avenue to shirk his responsibilities is a form of enablement. That's not to say I think you're consciously doing it, but every time he's on your show acting like a clueless jackass is a time he's not spending fulfilling his book.

Well, one of the things going on here is that there are underlying problems in Comicsgate that run far deeper than reading the riot act to two people.

I don't disagree. I'm just citing two examples of continuous long-running stupidity. It was in no way meant to be an exhaustive list. Problems are often solved one at a time.

A better course of action would be building up people capable of delivering the sort of quality Comicsgate was built upon promising like Graham Nolan, Kenneth Rocafort, Shane Davis, Shelby Robertson, Andy Smith, Aaron Lopresti and so on instead of driving off the few remaining people with a platform, which Frog has been painstakingly doing since late 2020.

Again, I don't disagree, but dead weight is still dead weight. I think your concern about driving Cecil off would be more on point if he were worth a shit.

You will note I am not suggesting he drive JDA out (who, despite other issues, is actually productive). I merely said telling him to shut the fuck up every time he throws a sucker punch and then cries about getting hit back might be worth considering.

 

[Wiggle My Niggle]

When the founder of #comicsgate says you are a "diluted crybully loser" and all you can do is say "No you did, no you did.

Check out this drunk faggot, Ryan "Drunk stream while holding a baby" Palmer. How's that comic with the retarded name coming?

 

[Rupin]

The ol' "David vs. Goliath" match up.
- One is large, can tank damage that can fell anyone smaller, and exert force that can obliterate most obstacles.
- The other is smaller, more faster and nimble, has stamina for days, and while unable to exert the same amount force around a similar surface area, the trade off is focusing on on a pinpoint target and paralyzing them with precise strikes.

I think Cyberfrog would have an unfair advantage because all he has to do hit Mammoth Monk a few times with his tongue and plant tiny explosives on him with each hit. Mammoth probably wouldn’t know to dodge the tongue so he’d probably block it or try to grab it and that’d be a wrap for their first encounter.

I would have to respectfully disagree. Kingpin was a formidable matchup for Spiderman, all muscle, but only a fraction of the size of Mammoth, and he is a trained martial arts master.


If a chicken eating amphibian brain could even process the level of superhuman physical ability, I think Mammoth's training would be too much, even for his leg strength. Not to mention his master with him in spirit at all times, he is hyper aware and carries the wisdom of two masters, not one.


We have no reference of the power level of Kjell Sinn, or its effect on Cyberfrog, because you won't draw the fucking books, but I'll remain optimistic that with guns we are all better, so we shall see.

Kingpin a formidable matchup against Spider-Man? I think not.

 

[The Ghost of CG Past]

Don't piss all over a fun question around here.

Personally, I love questions about superhero power match ups. I don't know how you can claim to love comics otherwise.

Judging by WordNerd's elephant man design, Cyberfrog could probably handle him in an even fight. CyberFrog has Spider-Man level strength, and his legs are even stronger. He's probably faster than this guy, and half of his body is armored.

If CyberFrog were online with Kjell Sinn and able to rapid evolve, it would be no contes

Check out this drunk faggot, Ryan "Drunk stream while holding a baby" Palmer. How's that comic with the retarded name coming?
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Coming along better than Randy, just a ball park assessment.

I think Cyberfrog would have an unfair advantage because all he has to do hit Mammoth Monk a few times with his tongue and plant tiny explosives on him with each hit. Mammoth probably wouldn’t know to dodge the tongue so he’d probably block it or try to grab it and that’d be a wrap for their first encounter.



Kingpin a formidable matchup against Spider-Man? I think not.
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No Simp-biote suit

 

[Rupin]

No Simp-biote suit

it’s not a symbiote. It’s modeled after the symbiote suit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_Back_in_Black

 

[The Ghost of CG Past]

it’s not a symbiote. It’s modeled after the symbiote suit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_Back_in_Black

Just the same, I think its up for debate whether Mammoth or Cyberfrog are destined to fight. Comic matchups are fun.

 

[Mecha II]

As Autistic as the Monk Fighter Butterfly Flock Mammoth man is

It's visually more interesting than SkinSuitFro "Trust me it's going to be good enough to sink thousands into without any hype or marketing or research, just my ego will do" Generic Superhero Man

WereMammoth here would actually work as a Silhouette.

How bad of an idea do you have to have, How uninspired can you be that Caanan White has drawn something more boring than Word Nerd?

I Thought Antonio Brice wasted Caanan's time. But holy shit Rippa here was swinging for the fences. Let me guess, SupaRippa has Enhanced Strength? Maybe he can fly? Lazer eyes?!!!

I guess the larger question in the Rippaverse is "Can a fan make a good comic?" We know Rippa is a fan of comics, but does that mean anything towards quality writing? Guess we'll find out

I don't care how much money the RippaVerse makes, It's already given me more entertainment than I could ever pay for.

 

[The Ghost of CG Past]

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As Autistic as the Monk Fighter Butterfly Flock Mammoth man is

It's visually more interesting than SkinSuitFro "Trust me it's going to be good enough to sink thousands into without any hype or marketing or research, just my ego will do" Generic Superhero Man

WereMammoth here would actually work as a Silhouette.

How bad of an idea do you have to have, How uninspired can you be that Caanan White has drawn something more boring than Word Nerd?

I Thought Antonio Brice wasted Caanan's time. But holy shit Rippa here was swinging for the fences. Let me guess, SupaRippa has Enhanced Strength? Maybe he can fly? Lazer eyes?!!!

I guess the larger question in the Rippaverse is "Can a fan make a good comic?" We know Rippa is a fan of comics, but does that mean anything towards quality writing? Guess we'll find out

I don't care how much money the RippaVerse makes, It's already given me more entertainment than I could ever pay for.

That was just a doodle I did of Mammoth Monk. I am a writer.

Here is the cover Caanan White drew for me, worth every penny. He has been a friend of mine since before CG existed.

Mammoth Monk is only one of 8 heroes in my book, all with a unique powerset and personality. And I have a letter of recommendation from the most published man alive comparing all 4 scripts in the origin series to "A stirring symphony written by an old master" which we will publish as a guarantee of quality story for the backers.

People get jealous and have talked shit, but I'll give you the best book in comics on delivery, and it will be on target when its on your dime.