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Here is the cover Caanan White drew for me

Unpopular opinion but it's not just the design of Rippas character that bores me, it's that whole generic, latter-day-Jim-Lee, a-million-tiny-black-shadows style, used by Canaan White, Jon Malin, Mike Deodato, Frog etc. etc. All slick and shiny, like a lump of cold lead.

Mammoth Monk is only one of 8 heroes in my book, all with a unique powerset and personality. And I have a letter of recommendation from the most published man alive comparing all 4 scripts in the origin series to "A stirring symphony written by an old master" which we will publish as a guarantee of quality story for the backers.

People get jealous and have talked shit, but I'll give you the best book in comics on delivery, and it will be on target when its on your dime.

When you start to sound like JDA it's time to GTFO.
 
Unpopular opinion but it's not just the design of Rippas character that bores me, it's that whole generic, latter-day-Jim-Lee, a-million-tiny-black-shadows style, used by Canaan White, Jon Malin, Mike Deodato, Frog etc. etc. All slick and shiny, like a lump of cold lead.



When you start to sound like JDA it's time to GTFO.
I'm pretty new here, was just stating my position. I was compared to EVS and July and only been here two days. Maybe cut a humble WordNerd slack on my riposte.

I'm just a regular dude who is a fan. I just wanted to express my passion and resolve, didn't want to suck my own D even though I hear it's delicious haha
 
OK, I'll bite on this... L Ron Hubbard is dead obviously so you have a letter of recommendation from who? Ryoki Inoue?
Ryoki Inoue is the most published Ghost Writer, recognized in the book of world records with 1090 credited under 39 names.

My letter is from Ed Greenwood, creator of Forgotten Realms for TSR, OG contributor to Ravenloft Campaign Setting, over 400 novels, 300 sourcebooks, wrote and edited at Marvel & DC Comics. They created nearly two dozen video games from his work including Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter, Neverwinter Nights, Eye of the Beholder, and others to which he also wrote and contributed to, not to mention 100's and 100's of indie works over his 50+ years in publishing. Gamer's Choice Hall of Fame, New York Times Bestseller, Aurora Award Winner, the guy inspired nearly two full generations of fantasy creators and fans.
 
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Ryoki Inoue is the most published Ghost Writer, recognized in the book of world records with 1090 credited under 39 names.

My letter is from Ed Greenwood, creator of Forgotten Realms for TSR, OG contributor to Ravenloft Campaign Setting, over 400 novels, 300 sourcebooks, wrote and edited at Marvel & DC Comics. They created nearly two dozen video games from his work including Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter, Neverwinter Nights, Eye of the Beholder, and others to which he also wrote and contributed to, not to mention 100's and 100's of indie works over his 50+ years in publishing. Gamer's Choice Hall of Fame, New York Times Bestseller, Aurora Award Winner, the guy inspired nearly two full generations of fantasy creators and fans.
Are you willing to show that letter?
 
Are you willing to show that letter?
Still go ahead and show it, but probably true given Greenwood has been on Ryan's channel they seem to be friendly.


Palmer is a good example of someone who is an unknown seemingly with good connections such as Greenwood falling on the Comicsgate "cancelled" sword for no good reason whatsoever. Your one specific stupid obscure scifi / fantasy / superhero idea not catching on does not mean you are gatekept. It means it is dumb, or you need more ideas, or to work harder to get it out there. These unknowns fall for the pitch, then join up only to be both smeared with the name and shit on by dear leader. @FROG even recenty said he wants only ex-industry pros that can draw and produce books and fufillment is up to them. Unfortunately Wordnerd fell for the old cult programming right as it was becoming obsolete, as now it is an ex-pro semi retirement vaporware scheme. At least some of the pros are producing some product, (I recently saw a shot of a physical copy of "Thin Blue Line") but not getting a book you paid for years ago such as Fraga's Black Flag... I call that giving out a loan not buying a product.
 
I've loosely been following this whole "rippaverse" because at first it seemed interesting as a concept. However, recently with the so called "reveal" of what it is, my cynicism towards it has only increased. The yougrippa guy has constantly been hyping it up as something larger than life with nothing tangible to show for it except the recent concept drawings that evoke nothing. I don't know what his long term tactics are or what kind of stories are going to be told in his comics, but the manner in which he has been hyping and marketing it is getting quite annoying.

It appears he also doesn't like any criticism based off his recent youtube post. When he means "parallel economy" I'm beginning to actually thing he means a mirror of basic bitch capeshit stuff and not something different and creative. Pretty funny how mindless his fans are too in the comments. The consoomers and anti-sjw comicsgate fanatics are really two sides of the same coin.

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Again, I don't disagree, but dead weight is still dead weight. I think your concern about driving Cecil off would be more on point if he were worth a shit.
No argument here about Cecil's worth. The question is about how much of the fanbase would be lost by shedding this particular piece of white girl wasted dead weight. That is of worth.

He went into a lot of rage videos against Mags and Heather and whatshername queer and brown person then realized that they are more like avatars for a broken system (but in Zack logic) then forgot about it and made more rage videos and the circle continues.

Well I mean it's been five years at this point and it hasn't been 24 hours since he's made a video railing at Heather Antos' tweets.


Summary: Other woke people are putting Heather Antos on blast for allowing Valiant Comics to highlight brown Puerto Rican white supremacist Comicsgater Kenneth Rocafort's work on the main page of their website. Valiant is too busy dealing with the whiplash with the NFT crash after rebranding themselves as an "NFT company that also did comics" to care about Heather's bullshit at this time, but Antos' peers want to know why Rocafort's art, the best Valiant has to offer, hasn't been cancelled. Exasperated, Heather assures her fellow karen that she will personally not hire any member of a hate movement, but she can make no guarantees of her employer. Simple Zack's take: "Heather's trying to cancel people! I hate her! Aaah!". I'm not a mindreader here but it begs the question of how much a guy who's been handed millions of dollars at this point is being held back by a girl who makes less than minimum wage working for a c-list imprint she has no power over.


Zack also put out another video where he tried to gaslight about how unnamed people read into his video where he talked about unnamed people, which doesn't really pass muster when you refer to conversations you had with specific people verbatim during the vaguebooking. He also fishes out the idea of ceasing criticism altogether. He's reminded of when "fellow publisher" Joe Quesada once told him that he could be a critic or he could be a publisher, and he's now starting to understand what that means. Since he's already sunk hundreds of thousands of dollars into publishing comics, he's not going to give up on being a publisher, but the criticism and throwing stones in the industry is really getting into the way with that. Or, in other words:

He doesn't want to "fade into obscurity and go back to a normie IT job" by the way. He could get a "normie IT job" as a third party IT contractor in McAllen, Texas doing what he was doing any time he wants. What Meyer actually wants is for the SJWs in comics to forgive him, without him having to apologize, and acknowledge him as a real big boy publisher who is allowed sell to the direct market and Bookline, and all his complaints amount to a 50 year old having a big crying jag because it's super unfair these people don't go out of their way to help out the singular guy who built his business off of shitting on them and inspired countless others to do the same. "I'm trapped!" the transaction-based guru cries out, "These SJWs should give me everything I want because it's the right thing of them to do!"





New Jersey comic convention Garden City Comic Fest was beset by many Comicsgaters this weekend, including a rare personal appearance from the Frogfather himself. New Jersey is, appropriately, one of the spiritual hubs of Comicsgate, along with Texas and Australia.

Frog seems to have amused himself by indulging in his inner Jerseyness in the form of getting buzzed at the nearby bar and doing his best Tony Soprano impression as a bad boy "made man of comics", showboating his ill gotten wealth over his former industry peers. This was followed by hanging out in a bar parking lot smoking cigarette and talking with Billy Tucci and Graham Nolan. Nolan and Tucci talked about the steaks they ate and also their trucks. True to form, Billy complains that Graham Nolan can operate his fancy electronic truck with all the gadgets and buttons better than he can while Nolan complained that Comicsgate is misunderstood and, as far as he can tell, is a group of fun guys who like talking about and making comics.

Comicsgate Outreach Update:


Eric July was invited present his very hyped new project, "the Rippaverse" to the CAPS audience. July, as covered by @Ike Aim has notably forgone marketing his product itself in any way whatsoerver in lieu of presenting a corporate mission statement and an informal contract between publisher and customer where the former guaranteeing to uphold canonical integrity and not getting all racist and shit with the reader. Despite this unorthodox approach to business, July has over 11,000 signsup for his imprint before launch, rivaling that of Rekt Planet back in 2020 (though it's questionable that July will gross over $100 per backer like Rekt Planet did). The point being, despite the complete void of meaningful information about the comics themselves, the project will be of great import in the world of self-published comics and it only makes sense for similar fringe creators to network here; July is a talented self-promoter and entrepreneur with his own audience, and Comicsgate is full of old guys with centuries of valuable of practical experience. What's needed here is a talented diplomat, a man able to build bridges, to cross the divides not just professionally but across fandoms and wildly different life experiences in order to find and establish common ground.

 
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July should have, in addition to releasing his 'mission statement' video, released a video covering what the primary comic book is actually about, and why we should buy it. This is the primary issue with all reactionary movements, in that they are basically a reaction to something the creator dislikes, and often they are defined not by the quality of the work, but rather the fact that it is simply the opposite of whatever grievance the creator had with something existing. Funny enough, SJW comics in the mainstream are basically reactionary, as they define themselves by having lgbtq characters, strong leftists political messaging, etc. They don't define themselves on any inherent quality of the work itself, only what the work is in response to. July's current pitch seems to be basically the same thing, except he is in reaction to the 'reactionaries' of SJW comics. I mean, we don't know anything about the comics or 'Rippaverse' itself, other than the qualities it possess which AREN'T LIKE SJW comics. I don't have high hopes for this, because so far the messaging isn't 'buy this because the characters are good' or 'the storytelling is good,' but more so 'we aren't like what you hate'.

I wish him the best, but so far the presentation of his universe and the story he wants to tell has been entirely supplanted by 'you want to support this because we are your political allies,' which is exactly the same as the mainstream comics.
 
July should have, in addition to releasing his 'mission statement' video, released a video covering what the primary comic book is actually about, and why we should buy it. This is the primary issue with all reactionary movements, in that they are basically a reaction to something the creator dislikes, and often they are defined not by the quality of the work, but rather the fact that it is simply the opposite of whatever grievance the creator had with something existing. Funny enough, SJW comics in the mainstream are basically reactionary, as they define themselves by having lgbtq characters, strong leftists political messaging, etc. They don't define themselves on any inherent quality of the work itself, only what the work is in response to. July's current pitch seems to be basically the same thing, except he is in reaction to the 'reactionaries' of SJW comics. I mean, we don't know anything about the comics or 'Rippaverse' itself, other than the qualities it possess which AREN'T LIKE SJW comics. I don't have high hopes for this, because so far the messaging isn't 'buy this because the characters are good' or 'the storytelling is good,' but more so 'we aren't like what you hate'.

I wish him the best, but so far the presentation of his universe and the story he wants to tell has been entirely supplanted by 'you want to support this because we are your political allies,' which is exactly the same as the mainstream comics.
There's probably a specific marketing term for it, but he's going for the "We're presenting Project XYZ and it's gonna be great, believe in it" type of marketing to hype people up. IMO this usually builds up too much nebolous hype and results in disappointment because if you have 20 people they'll want 20 things out of this, but we'll see how the first issue holds.
 
I wish him the best, but so far the presentation of his universe and the story he wants to tell has been entirely supplanted by 'you want to support this because we are your political allies,' which is exactly the same as the mainstream comics.
I don't disagree with you that he hasn't released an idea of plotline etc yet, but I think thats intentional - he wants to save everything for launch (which is tomorrow) so its not like you have to wait a long time.
 
I don't disagree with you that he hasn't released an idea of plotline etc yet, but I think thats intentional - he wants to save everything for launch (which is tomorrow) so its not like you have to wait a long time.
That's like releasing a movie with no trailer & explanation what it's about. The potential audience gets just told to watch it because it's different from mainstream movies. Brilliant tactic. :roll: Besides that July's customers already waited for quite a while for time his Ripassverse without even knowing what to expect. The only thing he told them was to Gatekeep it from imagined wokists as if they were interested in his shit.
 
That's like releasing a movie with no trailer & explanation what it's about. The potential audience gets just told to watch it because it's different from mainstream movies.
but they're gonna get the pitch tomorrow before they choose to buy it or not, he's just been drumming up awareness up until this point. he's not asking them to buy it without any idea, he's just trying to hype the launch.
I agree he needs to show more to persuade me, but movies and games have embargoes and whatnot too.
 
It appears he also doesn't like any criticism based off his recent youtube post.
Always seemed to me like he never liked being lumped in with anyone. Because he gets lumped in, does something that the group doesn't like, gets shit on by the group.
When he means "parallel economy" I'm beginning to actually thing he means a mirror of basic bitch capeshit stuff and not something different and creative.
That's what it always was. And he never said it would be anything different. A large complaint is how mainstream comics are not being written for people that buy comics anymore. Comic fans still want capeshit. They just want it to be good.
He just told them to gatekeep, gatekeep, gatekeep
Because every single time you don't the community or fandom gets ruined. Majority of the time he brings that up he's referring to everything, not his work in specific.
 
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What's needed here is a talented diplomat, a man able to build bridges, to cross the divides not just professionally but across fandoms and wildly different life experiences in order to find and establish common ground.
I suppose it's questionable context and timing on Jon's part, being pre-launch weekend and all, but it was refreshing seeing at least one person not falling over himself to fellate Mr. Rippa. IMHO, hugboxing is bad for creators but on the other hand seeing as how shit gets misinterpreted by autists or spun for fun and profit, maybe there really is no other option lest the rubes wandering down the midway trade their balloon and cotton candy for torches and pitchforks. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I mean, on Saturday's Flashcast, YellowFlash and one of the dumbest "really smart" girls on the internet had to spoonfeed the crowd about what camaraderie is because either someone didn't get it or someone tried to stir the pot in the wake of Jon's deadpanned ribbing:





Also, from YellowFlash's stream, is Anna just completely confused about who she was texting or is it normal to carry on text correspondence with the "guy"/captain of the "tanker"/container "big boat"/ship transporting your relatively meager amount of product from overseas and/or am I grossly underestimating her ability to inspire thirst? Apparently, she was prepared to have men go full Somali pirate for her to get her hoard of booby calendar binder rings out of limbo and couldn't understand why no one would go for it:





If you want to pull Anna's attention away from playing Elden Ring, it's not enough to merely pay to simp for her calendar with a clever message about her calendar. You have to invoke her name. Just be aware that her attention fades pretty quickly when it comes to non-Anna related content so do get in there posthaste with a relevant point, like laminating the pages of her calendar for reasons. Also, she's potentially swarmed by insects (or head faeries) at any given moment so keep that in mind when begging she attend your pathetic simpery.



 
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Because every single time you don't the community or fandom gets ruined. Majority of the time he brings that up he's referring to everything, not his work in specific.
Read the full sentence. You ignored it on purpose just to kiss July's ass more.

Nowhere did I say gatekeeping is bad. What's r.etarded is telling your costumers to gatekeep without them even knowing what the fuck it is they should gatekeep.
 
Read the full sentence. You ignored it on purpose just to kiss July's ass more.

Nowhere did I say gatekeeping is bad. What's r.etarded is telling your costumers to gatekeep without them even knowing what the fuck it is they should gatekeep.
He's told them what they should gatekeep though as I said. That being fandoms and community they like.
 
He's told them what they should gatekeep though as I said. That being fandoms and community they like.

I shouldn't have to say this because Sinner's Sandwich has already laid it out for you, many times. The topic of discussion is not just any 'fandom':

The only thing he told them was to Gatekeep it from imagined wokists as if they were interested in his shit.

Imagine the absurdity of zealously gatekeeping a fandom that doesn't exist yet because the product doesn't exist yet. Is it worth gatekeeping? How would you know until you have the book in your hands? It just smells like one big preemptive cope and deflection of that criticism that Eric can't handle. That or a not so subtle attempt at mental conditioning. "Dah, Rippa says gatekeep what we love! Rippa says gatekeep his comic book! That means..."

[Wheels turn]

"... we love his comic book!"
 
It just smells like one big preemptive cope and deflection of that criticism that Eric can't handle. That or a not so subtle attempt at mental conditioning. "Dah, Rippa says gatekeep what we love! Rippa says gatekeep his comic book! That means..."

[Wheels turn]

"... we love his comic book!"
He’s literally said to tear his work apart if people don’t like it.

If anything I’m just surprised it’s launching with seemingly nothing despite that being seemingly the reason for the long wait and based on what he said he wanted to avoid what happened with most CG stuff.
 
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