#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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chalkyresidue said:
Peaches is probably grateful for the peace and quiet.

Why is Anna still getting A-list waifu treatment at this point anyway? She’s unnecessary on every level. Today’s CG has far superior females. There’s Mandy Summers, a cheerful blonde with big tits who obligingly turns on her camera so you can see them. And Renie, who’s a giggly goth tomboy who wears tank tops. Both these ladies, you know, publish comic books… the reason we’re here for this stuff in the first place, right?
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Years of lack of consistent or quality output have self-selected a large part of the Comicsgate fanbase to screen out people actually interested in comics (who moved on) and brought in a large base of people who are interested in pursuing a parasocial relationship with a livestreamer instead. It's an unfortunate consequence of an unchecked emphasis on cult of personality and not a problem that is easily fixed; correcting an entire malformed community that's been gradually conditioned to be paypigs over years is far harder than correcting the mindset of a single person.

I can't help but notice that Ashton Birdie, a woman who's defining qualities are consensually having sex with Baked Alaska and "liking Harry Potter", was there during the "simp happily getting spat on by his oneitis" clip. The fact she's there despite having zero interest in anime, comics or even being a pop culture commentator, lends credence to my previously outlined theory of Anna (aided by her Renfeld-like Cecil) serving as a stepping stone towards steering their Comicsgate-originating fanbase to more direct forms of findom slavery for fellow 'Simpcast' members. Maybe I'm reading too much into this, maybe Ashton was just there to be Vic Mignogna's cumdumpster or something.

Whatever the case, I question the broad appeal or sustainability of a business built off of conservative MAGA waifus who peaked in 2016, or the ability of introverted comic creators to compete with them for the attention of a customer base consisting of middle aged men.
 
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chalkyresidue said:
Peaches is probably grateful for the peace and quiet.

Why is Anna still getting A-list waifu treatment at this point anyway? She’s unnecessary on every level. Today’s CG has far superior females. There’s Mandy Summers, a cheerful blonde with big tits who obligingly turns on her camera so you can see them. And Renie, who’s a giggly goth tomboy who wears tank tops. Both these ladies, you know, publish comic books… the reason we’re here for this stuff in the first place, right?

Meanwhile this fat NEET tsundere with nothing to add to a conversation other than “your mom” and “fuck you” has a permanent seat on any CG stream she wants. And people seem to go for it. I don’t get it. Her Warcampaign pity party was years ago. She’s done nothing recently other than these embarrassing middle aged lady cosplay pics. Is she really just one of those successful algorithm optimizers like the Quartering — famous for being popular and popular for being famous?
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Because people are retarded and horny, and any girl that's not a warthog is gonna stand out more in groups of overweight balding boomers.
 
Xenomorphs Are Cute said:
There's actually a cuter version of what you're talking about, but she's a consoomer with shit taste.
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If I must watch a woman with bad taste saying dumb shit in a room full of Star Wars toys, I'd rather watch Anna's tits. At least making a cosplay calendar for simps isn't as low effort as making a channel full of reaction videos. I actually care about tits. I don't care about some pronoun crying into her Pride flag over an episode of a Disney+ show.
 
Miniluv said:
If I must watch a woman with bad taste saying dumb shit in a room full of Star Wars toys, I'd rather watch Anna's tits. At least making a cosplay calendar for simps isn't as low effort as making a channel full of reaction videos. I actually care about tits. I don't care about some pronoun crying into her Pride flag over an episode of a Disney+ show.
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That I agree with, even if I rarely ever watch Anna.
 
I looked in a Yellowflash stream last night. There was Yellowflash, Raging Golden Eagle, TUG talking about how plastered Cecil was the night before and then they went on to getting on Renfamous because she made a tweet about how fat Yellowflash was when a picture of him was taken at a Houston con.
 
Miniluv said:
Looks like she fulfilled the orders back in April, only a third of the way through the calendar year.

She's already moved on to a 2023 calendar, this one geared towards guys who jerk off to video games rather than/in addition to comics.
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What's funny about that coom calendar is that whenever they talk about it on Flashcast and Cecil or RGE joke about guys getting the calendar to coom over it, Anna acts all coy like she totally doesn't know anything about that.
 
Car Won't Crank said:
What's funny about that coom calendar is that whenever they talk about it on Flashcast and Cecil or RGE joke about guys getting the calendar to coom over it, Anna acts all coy like she totally doesn't know anything about that.
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Self awareness only brings in the simp bucks when you are a comedian like Chrissie Mayr. If you aren't a comedian, then acting coy and oblivious keeps the simp bucks rolling in.
 
I think I saw the unmasked and now deleted Cecil picture at Anime Matsuri but didn't really understand what exactly I was seeing when I was flipping through Twitter. Looked quite a bit younger than I expected, assuming I was in fact seeing it. (And I must concede I could be wrong.)
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Oh, well.
 
Shekelslovakia said:
The only drawback that manga has opposed to American comics is that they're only in black and white but recently they've been coming out with colorize editions of them recently and look pretty damn good. I remember buying the first edition of Shonen Jump when it came out here in the States, I was little back then and I thought that it was a coloring book and try to fill in some of the panels in with crayons.
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Why is black and white a drawback? Black and white art has its own appeal. How good it looks depends on the artists' skill and effort - just like the colored art. It certainly did not stop manga from eclipsing full color comics. Even black and white American comic books like Sin City and The Walking Dead can sell very well. Black and white boom was a thing too.
Colorized manga is nothing new. Initial American Akira release in 1982 was colorized. Most of manga is conceived as black and white. Sometimes art does not lend itself to color because of that. If it does, a bad colorist can still mess everything up.

TheCosmicWarrior said:
It's great that people are vibing with my "regress harder" mantra on culture. Raz0rfist put out a nice video this morning explaining why Bandes Dessinées, like Valerian & Laureline which inspired OVERMIND, are the superior comic art form. It doesn't get much attention, but stylistically the Franco-Belgian comic-creating community has a wonderful model for great storytelling, and I'm very proud to be continuing in their tradition.
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For all of Razor's faults, he sometimes puts together something decent. Hopefully this will bring more attention to foreign comics. He manages to keep his Elric boner somewhat contained and even recommends some good stuff for once. Undertaker especially. It's one of the best currently ongoing comics, both in writing and art.

COMMI3 MARK said:
The Dutch have a huge presence in CG relative to their nation size despite English being their second language too. Same is true for a few South American countries. It actually coming up on a year since we last scraped that data so we'll probably look at it again soon.
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Most Dutch speak English very well. An average Dutchman can consume media in English with little to no difficulties. Dutch comics industry is on the smaller side for Europe, so that likely drives people to read in English and there is less pressure to translate books to Dutch as a result. There is no wonder that they might be over-represented compared to other Europeans.
For South America, it probably has to do with long history of ties to the American comics industry.

transliberianorchestra said:
is there a reading list for CG? I was a big comics reader until Image and Marvel went to shit after 2016. Any recommendations?
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I found comicsgate's offerings rather lackluster. Monster MD was probably the best CG book I have read. There are good comics to outside of CG and big two, especially if you are going to look abroad. What kind of stories do you like?

Rodeo Roadrunner said:
I don't understand cosplay. Is it all just coomer bait or what?
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Some people like tailoring, fashion design, makeup, and even occasional mechanical and electrical tinkering that goes into costumes. Others like the dress up and larpy aspects of cosplay. Some are in it only for attention and community. Most are a mixture of all of the above in varying proportions.
 
Rodeo Roadrunner said:
I don't understand cosplay. Is it all just coomer bait or what?
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It depends. If you cosplay as a sexualized character and you do it competently, you will be sexualized yourself. But of course there are plenty of characters that aren't sexualized, and so the people cosplaying them are not sexualized.

(Then, of course, some characters have different levels of sexualization throughout their franchise; Slave Leia vs. non-slave Leia, Tomb Raider 2 Lara Croft vs. Tomb Raider 13 Lara Croft, etc.)
 
GoPro said:
Why is black and white a drawback? Black and white art has its own appeal. How good it looks depends on the artists' skill and effort - just like the colored art. It certainly did not stop manga from eclipsing full color comics. Even black and white American comic books like Sin City and The Walking Dead can sell very well. Black and white boom was a thing too.
Colorized manga is nothing new. Initial American Akira release in 1982 was colorized. Most of manga is conceived as black and white. Sometimes art does not lend itself to color because of that. If it does, a bad colorist can still mess everything up.


For all of Razor's faults, he sometimes puts together something decent. Hopefully this will bring more attention to foreign comics. He manages to keep his Elric boner somewhat contained and even recommends some good stuff for once. Undertaker especially. It's one of the best currently ongoing comics, both in writing and art.


Most Dutch speak English very well. An average Dutchman can consume media in English with little to no difficulties. Dutch comics industry is on the smaller side for Europe, so that likely drives people to read in English and there is less pressure to translate books to Dutch as a result. There is no wonder that they might be over-represented compared to other Europeans.
For South America, it probably has to do with long history of ties to the American comics industry.


I found comicsgate's offerings rather lackluster. Monster MD was probably the best CG book I have read. There are good comics to outside of CG and big two, especially if you are going to look abroad. What kind of stories do you like?


Some people like tailoring, fashion design, makeup, and even occasional mechanical and electrical tinkering that goes into costumes. Others like the dress up and larpy aspects of cosplay. Some are in it only for attention and community. Most are a mixture of all of the above in varying proportions.
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Black and white isn’t inherently a drawback, but generally speaking, I will always pick a competently-colored manga over its b/w original when given the option.

Of course, due to the sheer length of most popular manga, and the additional costs associated with both the act of coloring AND printing the work in color, fully colorized works are hard to come by because the money just isn’t there - the vast majority of manga fans are happy to read black and white.

Rodeo Roadrunner said:
I don't understand cosplay. Is it all just coomer bait or what?
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I used to do cosplay for fun (normal, not sexy… also I’m a dude), the vast majority of it is not coomer bait but the coomer bait is just what gets shared around the most for reasons that should be self-evident.
 
Rodeo Roadrunner said:
I don't understand cosplay. Is it all just coomer bait or what?
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Least Concern said:
It depends. If you cosplay as a sexualized character and you do it competently, you will be sexualized yourself. But of course there are plenty of characters that aren't sexualized, and so the people cosplaying them are not sexualized.
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Then there are cosplayers who take a non sexualized character and sexualize it, sort of like how most modern women's Halloween costumes became slutty variations of everything from firefighters to Super Mario.

I saw a woman at a con once wearing glasses and a man's suit with her shirt unbuttoned almost to the waist, her extremely ample cleavage was held in by what could only be the strongest titty tape yet devised. She claimed she was dressed as Clark Kent. A lot of the "fake geek girl" vitriol was initially aimed at women going to cons and dressing up like that for attention/money when they didn't really have any interest in anything the cons were catering to. I've even met some business minded ladies who work as strippers and escorts and regularly go to cons in costume because, duh, it's thirsty geeks with tons of money who can't wait to part with it.
 
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