#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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20 dollars for a 20 something page book with only ten pages of actual story is waaay too expensive! Meanwhile with guys like Tim Lim and Doug Earnst, you get 40 plus page books for ten dollars. In fact most campaigns sell their books for 15 dollars.

This should have been ten bucks, tops.
Not only are Lim's books $15-16($10 plus shipping), it is hardback and is already done before the campaign even goes live.
The Guy that owns Iconic Comics and Bell County Comic Con is a nerdy asian, seemingly fairly wealthy, cosplayer. Since he owns both Iconic Comics and the con, he always has Kamen America on the billboards and in some of the branding for the con. Its a good business strategy to help push more Iconic books and also lets the Kamen America creators crew brag on twitter about having Kamen America on billboards for the con(though they conveniently leave out the fact that the same person owns both the publisher and the con). I know there is a post on here with pictures about the guy, but I was unable to find it.
 
DarkGrift is true to his name, He grifted backer money to pay for his house, He produced a book with preston poulter's ex wife and swore it would be out 2 christmas's ago. I don't believe that POS has been sent yet.
Sir, I object to these accusations because it implies DarkGift was successful in grifting enough to pay for his house or produced a book.
For example, Lightbringer 2 at three days in has stalled at 14 backers. Looks like we have another Enter the CRoMniverse on our hands folks.
 
Sir, I object to these accusations because it implies DarkGift was successful in grifting enough to pay for his house or produced a book.
For example, Lightbringer 2 at three days in has stalled at 14 backers. Looks like we have another Enter the CRoMniverse on our hands folks.

14 backers, with only 8 actually claiming a perk and 6 just donating in return for nothing.

The interior art is actually significantly better than the cover art, a truly insane marketing choice to be sure. It's always annoying to see a campaign with a cover that makes it look like a real comic, and then the interior art is like a child's scribbles, but that's an understandable con at least, caused by the budget.
 
Man, if everyone who complained about late books backed my books (all but one have been on time or early, and the one late campaign was only like by three months) I'd have $250,000 each campaign.
Think it through. Your stuff is so awful people would literally rather throw money away and get nothing than buy something you make. You are not good at what you try and do and should find gainful employment suitable to your education and background, like an uber driver or someone who robs the elderly.
 
Think it through. Your stuff is so awful people would literally rather throw money away and get nothing than buy something you make. You are not good at what you try and do and should find gainful employment suitable to your education and background, like an uber driver or someone who robs the elderly.
Reminds me of this great from the CG Archives

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20 dollars for a 20 something page book with only ten pages of actual story is waaay too expensive! Meanwhile with guys like Tim Lim and Doug Earnst, you get 40 plus page books for ten dollars. In fact most campaigns sell their books for 15 dollars.

This should have been ten bucks, tops.

Twenty dollar comic books. Priceless.

It shouldn't be allowed on IGG period, until his other projects fulfill.

Isn't that TOS? Why is @FROG allowed to break the rules?
 
It shouldn't be allowed on IGG period, until his other projects fulfill.
You're not the first person to suggest this, and you won't be the last.

The thing is, as long as IGG gets a cut of the money, there is little incentive for them to give a shit. At least that's my theory.

Isn't that TOS? Why is @FROG allowed to break the rules?
TOS only says you're supposed to make a "good faith effort" to fulfill on time. I'm sure plenty of people here will scoff at the idea that CG makes a good faith effort at fulfillment (or much of anything), but good luck calling it a TOS violation. It's written in such a vague way. Probably intentionally so.

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I think if FROG were objectively in TOS violation for having multiple unfulfilled campaigns, Vikki would be making 50 tweets a day about it. Instead, I think even she knows that's a non-starter. IGG doesn't seem to care.

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They can let him open new campaigns, as they also want the money, but they should not pay him in full, until the campaign is fulfilled. All they should pay is that goal the creator sets.
And does anyone really think he will deliver this by September? Can't wait to see what problems will there be this time.
He has also been doing some of the most retarded business decissions possible. Calling FNT crew zeroes was one of the biggest. Even tho, he is probably right, he should not have done it, as those morons would make him a lot more money. Same goes with Az, who would promote his toys every week if Ethan wanted. Fucking Jeremy Griggs is getting 4K live viewers on his back up stream. G&G stupid Mario Kart streams have more viewers than any CG stuff. So, even if their content is garbage, so is CG's. Boring streams, late campaigns, stupid drama and old professionals making fools of themselfs.
 
They can let him open new campaigns, as they also want the money, but they should not pay him in full, until the campaign is fulfilled. All they should pay is that goal the creator sets.

That's kind of retarted. What if the goal is 5,000 dollars and you end up with a thousand backers? How will you fulfill that?
That said, none of the crowdfunding sites offer any protection against scams. And I'm not even talking about CG situations. There have been multiple examples of Kickstarter campaign creators running off with the money a month after the campaign ended. Kickstarter's response is essentially "shit happens".
In the case of Karl O'Rowe, who posted that he only had the cover of the book left to finish and then disappeared for a year, IGG just took his campaign offline until he came back, since it was still InDemand.
 
Looks like someone got triggered enough by the SWC to initiate a channel strike. Remember when CG shit themselves over Liam striking channels? Say what you will about SWC, but striking channels over hurt fee fees is fucked up. Speaking of Liam, I hear he may have erased his channel.
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If true it is the most retarded move ethan could do so I have doubts pie man is allot of things but striking channels? The Roilubs are the creepiest faggots I have ever heard infact I beleive its an act a LARP because no one in real life can be that smug, stuck up, suggestive homosexual in real life. they have no following, there chan gets sub Liam Views to who benefits flagging there chan? they probably did it to them selves. don't want to give frog a win but why would he be that retarded?

I try to listen to the Roilubs a couple times because they say they have all this information, they spend every show talking like gay lovers having after sodomy bed talk. they are beyond preston poulter levels of filth.
 
If true it is the most retarded move ethan could do so I have doubts pie man is allot of things but striking channels? The Roilubs are the creepiest faggots I have ever heard infact I beleive its an act a LARP because no one in real life can be that smug, stuck up, suggestive homosexual in real life. they have no following, there chan gets sub Liam Views to who benefits flagging there chan? they probably did it to them selves. don't want to give frog a win but why would he be that retarded?

I try to listen to the Roilubs a couple times because they say they have all this information, they spend every show talking like gay lovers having after sodomy bed talk. they are beyond preston poulter levels of filth.
If you think those bros are the creepiest you haven't browsed other sections of this site. Go check out "animal control". Nobody is flagging their own channel. It's just one more example of strike a CG channel/their buddies like TUG or YF channel then it's Woe Is Me! Plz Donate, Channel is being False Flagged by False Flagging Flaggots! Then when it's someone they don't like there was ackshually a legitimate reason for this flagging and ackshually they deserved it. Plus with the following it doesn't matter to Reethan Von Cryber if it's a one follower twitter account saying something bad about him he will fight them. Also do I need to re-post Preston's movies here to remind you how screwed up that guy is? The links here are all dead.
 
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The credit card has more common sense than its owner from the looks of things.

Later I'll probably worry about implications of being cancelled by financial services, but for now LMAO.

If you think those bros are the creepiest you haven't browsed other sections of this site.

Beware... for when you gaze long into the stinkditch, the stinkditch gazes also into you.
 
That's kind of retarted. What if the goal is 5,000 dollars and you end up with a thousand backers? How will you fulfill that?
That said, none of the crowdfunding sites offer any protection against scams. And I'm not even talking about CG situations. There have been multiple examples of Kickstarter campaign creators running off with the money a month after the campaign ended. Kickstarter's response is essentially "shit happens".
In the case of Karl O'Rowe, who posted that he only had the cover of the book left to finish and then disappeared for a year, IGG just took his campaign offline until he came back, since it was still InDemand.
Both Indiegogo and Kickstarter put a disclaimer right above the final pay button that pretty much says that you may not receive anything for your monetary contribution. Im pretty sure on Kickstarter you have to tick a box that has the disclaimer in it before you can even click the final button to back.
If true it is the most retarded move ethan could do so I have doubts pie man is allot of things but striking channels? The Roilubs are the creepiest faggots I have ever heard infact I beleive its an act a LARP because no one in real life can be that smug, stuck up, suggestive homosexual in real life. they have no following, there chan gets sub Liam Views to who benefits flagging there chan? they probably did it to them selves. don't want to give frog a win but why would he be that retarded?

I try to listen to the Roilubs a couple times because they say they have all this information, they spend every show talking like gay lovers having after sodomy bed talk. they are beyond preston poulter levels of filth.
I also doubt Frog himself struck the Roilups channel. Those retards continuing to do and say retarded things only benefits Frog. But, I wouldnt be surprised if one of the retarded rank and file of CG did it to seek the Frogman's favor without Frogs knowledge or just for shits and giggles.
It's just one more example of strike a CG channel/their buddies like TUG or YF channel then it's Woe Is Me! Plz Donate, Channel is being False Flagged by False Flagging Flaggots!
MY CHANNEL IS UNDER ATTACK!!!!!
 
Im pretty sure on Kickstarter you have to tick a box that has the disclaimer in it before you can even click the final button to back.

You do.
I just don't know how well that holds up legally. There's a difference between someone posting updates for months and then going "Oops, I accidentally deleted the files" and someone disappearing as soon as the money clears, not even keeping up pretenses.
"Crowdfunding is not pre-ordering" and all, but some cases are outrageous and Kickstarter specifically has no issues coming down on campaigns for ideological reasons.
 
Later I'll probably worry about implications of being cancelled by financial services, but for now LMAO.



Beware... for when you gaze long into the stinkditch, the stinkditch gazes also into you.
It's sort of easy to miss but the EVS paypig went to the effort of arguing with a bank to put the transaction through. The bank said it was fraud. If that was as per the normal bank clerk system, this means the "health check" on their screen is listing something to do with EVS as fraud. Most likely the number of chargebacks he's caused.
It isn't indiegogo because banks are still processing other people's projects by the hour.
It may unironically be over.
There was more than one person saying the same thing by the way - declined due to fraud, unable to process, etc.
EVS is less reputable than a Ukrainian camwhore site.
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