#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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Miniluv said:
Remember when Mr. Never Apologize To People Who Want You Dead deleted all of his good content because he said he thought some mentally ill deviant might off themself? And then he started taking it easy on the pros who spent years hounding him and trying to ruin his life. That didn't stop him getting called a Nazi. Yet he persisted in it and in lieu of responding in kind, he took his anger out on his audience. I initially thought he was doing it because he did have those misguided mainstream ambitions. But now I think it really was an attempt to appease the Iconic guys so they'd publish and ship his books. That's been my personal conspiracy theory since the shoe store porno reveal, anyway.
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I think that this was done for the Youtube algorithm (my theory).

Miniluv said:
But l won't muddy the issue. This is Zack we're talking about. Even if all the necessary cultural changes happened and all the gay autistic tranny leftists got booted out of the industry, he'd absolutely self-sabotage before too long. Do you think he'd function well under an editor's supervision? A guy who is paid to make sure your stories work and your deadlines are met sounds like Zack's greatest natural enemy. Or he'd do an interview and say something too retarded to ignore and get shitcanned.
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While I am fairly certain he would do something stupid that would get him sacked, an editor is like a superior officer so his instict to obey might kick in. Then again, considering how much he praises very flawed artists that cannot function unless there is an editor breathing down their neck to keep them in line, he might fuck that up too when his contrarianism kicks in.

Mr Processor said:
This is from one of Zack's recent community posts "Comments are SO much more thoughtful and intelligent after The Culling." It's incredibly arrogant and not much different than some of the nasty, arrogant statements about comics fandom that the comic pros who actually have mainstream jobs working for DC or Marvel have said. Well, except that you actually do have some clout if you are writing Spider-man or drawing Batman.

Zack's big thing is selling "Impossible Stars II" for $35 to people. Based on his recent behavior, I assume he believes that the people giving him $35 for a comic book like that are grade A suckers and he's laughing all the way to the bank. Which, fair enough, that is a sucker's game when you can buy a volume of 86 for $13 on Amazon. I'm just not sure if having a temper tantrum over Furiosa underperforming at the box office is worth destroying the parasocial relationships that make it possible to sell something like "Impossible Stars II" for $35 per comic is such a great business plan, though.
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He might need to lower his sales expectations after this "Culling" of his. When you fight the audience, you always lose. This goes double for crowdfunding. His comments might have people who agree with him (or at least pretend to) but that also means less money.
 
Mr Processor said:
"Comments are SO much more thoughtful and intelligent after The Culling."
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"if you don't like the horrible politically charged slop disney puts out don't buy my book"

he should just change his channel name back to diversity in comics unironically and become breadtubers at this point.
 
Incecticyder said:
I think that this was done for the Youtube algorithm (my theory).
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That's certainly a possibility. In the end it doesn't really matter why he did it because the result is the same.
His channel hasn't grown, his books are still selling to the same people, and he's no closer to a mainstream career than he was when he was reviewing comics in his car while choking on a breakfast burrito.

Incecticyder said:
While I am fairly certain he would do something stupid that would get him sacked, an editor is like a superior officer so his instict to obey might kick in. Then again, considering how much he praises very flawed artists that cannot function unless there is an editor breathing down their neck to keep them in line, he might fuck that up too when his contrarianism kicks in.
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I could be way off base and misremembering his exact words but I seem to recall a video where Zack was explaining that one of the biggest problems he had after he left the military was having a civilian boss. He's made comments about not really being able to fully relate to men who haven't served and I've heard this is a common sentiment among combat veterans. It would probably aggravate the shit out of him for some guy who's never seen one of his friends get blown apart by an IED to tell him what to do.
If his editor was Gunnery Sergeant Hartman maybe it would be a different story.
 
Miniluv said:
That's certainly a possibility. In the end it doesn't really matter why he did it because the result is the same.
His channel hasn't grown, his books are still selling to the same people, and he's no closer to a mainstream career than he was when he was reviewing comics in his car while choking on a breakfast burrito.


I could be way off base and misremembering his exact words but I seem to recall a video where Zack was explaining that one of the biggest problems he had after he left the military was having a civilian boss. He's made comments about not really being able to fully relate to men who haven't served and I've heard this is a common sentiment among combat veterans. It would probably aggravate the shit out of him for some guy who's never seen one of his friends get blown apart by an IED to tell him what to do.
If his editor was Gunnery Sergeant Hartman maybe it would be a different story.
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Has anyone ever bothered to try getting a copy of Zack's DD-214? Without his or a next-of-kin's permission it has to be done via FOIA: https://www.archives.gov/personnel-records-center/foia-info
 
Miniluv said:
I could be way off base and misremembering his exact words but I seem to recall a video where Zack was explaining that one of the biggest problems he had after he left the military was having a civilian boss. He's made comments about not really being able to fully relate to men who haven't served and I've heard this is a common sentiment among combat veterans. It would probably aggravate the shit out of him for some guy who's never seen one of his friends get blown apart by an IED to tell him what to do.
If his editor was Gunnery Sergeant Hartman maybe it would be a different story.
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Everyone has their own cross to bear. What Person A and Person B went through in their life is going to be different. And even if they went through the same stuff, they have a difference in perspective. If the former soldier does not realise that he is a FORMER soldier and CURRENT civilian, then that is on them. In my opinion, the military should do some training for that to prepare the veterans.
 
Incecticyder said:
In my opinion, the military should do some training for that to prepare the veterans.
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I agree with this 100% and I think it's even more important for guys like Zack who spent years as combat infantry.
It's one thing for a guy who spent their service term in a non-combat MOS like a systems analyst or mechanic to translate those skills into a viable, successful civilian career after discharge. It's a different situation for someone like Zack whose only job for 12 years was to shoot people and get shot at.
Expecting him to work in IT for very long with irritating and sometimes hostile clients that he isn't allowed to shoot is asking a lot from him. He's already prone to hostility and the thing he was trained to do which served as a valve for that hostility has no practical application in the civilian world. No fucking wonder he's a basket case.
 
Miniluv said:
PTSD is probably a very safe bet and he may have had it before he ever entered the service.
Judging just from what he's said about his past, he's had a propensity for hostility and violence even before he joined the military.
In any case, it seems obvious that the military was the place Zack felt most comfortable and most focused. It's also the only environment in which Zack would ever allow anyone to tell him what to do.

That said, he also seems to have a touch of the old oppositional defiant disorder. I've always felt like Zack viewed people's expectations of him (even if entirely reasonable) as "orders" and he has a deep resentment for anyone that is not his superior giving him orders. He has a huge case of "you're not the boss of me" and it leads him to do things like flake out on people's livestreams after agreeing to appear, or take a defiant, strident tone with paying customers who have the temerity to wonder where their fucking books are. I think he even feels pigeonholed or boxed in when people expect some consistency in his words and actions.

He did what was expected of him in the military because there are clear and unpleasant consequences for not doing so.
In Zackworld there are no consequences so he can tell his fans/customers to fuck off with impunity.
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Zack is retarded and (as proven by his three kids) unable to pull out.

The way I see it: YBZ went to war to "save culture" and one day started to notice that the other soldiers had set up shops selling amunitions to fresh recruits and giving them instructions on how to escalate and draw out the war so they can profit more.
A lot of people would either join the gay ops or quietly withdraw.* He did neither and now he reached a breaking point (Ed Piskor offing himself might have been a final straw) and he is lashing out against how lame and gay his side has become.


* Like a lot of people did with comics when they started to suck and become a political battleground.
 
The uncomfortable truth about Zack as a leader of a consumer movement, is that all he's ever really been interested in is getting a job at Marvel and/or DC. As in, as a kid he dreamed of working there, and that dream remains with him, and is pretty much the only reason he ever got involved with anything comics related. That's why when Comicsgate started going the independent route, he basically said 'no thanks' to previewing or reviewing Comicsgater books, instead reviewing Chip Zdarsky or whoever, and frequently giving them positive reviews even though their work was middling at best. He recommended some gay Marvel writer's tremendously shitty crowdfunding campaign, and the guy told him to fuck off. But he had NO TIME for the losers in Comicsgate who wanted to make their own independent graphic novels. If you worked for Marvel or DC, you were somebody, if you didn't, you're some bozo. And I don't think it was through malice, or sociopathy, or PTSD, it's just the dude is a frontrunner, he wants to fulfill his dream of being a big name at Marvel, and everything else is shit and he doesn't care about it.

The second Comicsgate started to blow up and have a community form around it, he was discouraging a community. He declared it wasn't a real group. He insisted he was not part of any official thing. Because he liked his fans, but he wanted no part of them save for their clicks and their money. He wasn't there for you, he was there for himself. And all he wanted was a job at Marvel. It didn't matter that this was obviously impossible. It didn't matter that he's an amateur level talent with no sign of improving. He doesn't really even have much in the way of ideas. He had one thing, Jawbreakers, then he's just made up some other random stuff for his own books. It's not about creativity, the passion to create, he just wants a damn job at Marvel or DC.

He breaks every rule he makes up. They say people hate the people who embody the worst aspects of themselves, that's probably most of the cunty staff at the Big 2. He's not really that concerned about his own customers, though he probably feels he should be. He belittles people and frequently acts like an SJW, just not one who loves everything trans, but he probably knows he shouldn't. And he definitely pushes people away and does not feel entitled to much success, which is why he self-sabotages it. Is it because he shot up Iraqis? Probably not. It's just him.

Also, the new X-Men cartoon was a 7/10 and I'm seriously questioning the sanity of Youtubers who make it out to be an 11/10.
 
Zack wants a job at Marvel. He does not realise that it is impossible for him. He burned that bridge many times. And he alienated CG too. I would love a world where EVS had some pushback in his annexation of the movement but it did not happen. He worships the Image founders but he did not do what they did which is band together and build something that made the Big 2 envious. He helped divide the community that formed around CG and for what? To get a job at Marvel where editors would keep demanding more and more transbians? What would be his reward for this thankless job? The food stamps? He would end up hating his dream job more than any other job. The Marvel of his dreams is not a thing that exists outside his head. At least not for three decades.
 
Miniluv said:
I agree with this 100% and I think it's even more important for guys like Zack who spent years as combat infantry.
It's one thing for a guy who spent their service term in a non-combat MOS like a systems analyst or mechanic to translate those skills into a viable, successful civilian career after discharge. It's a different situation for someone like Zack whose only job for 12 years was to shoot people and get shot at.
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True, but unfortunately, war vets have been screwed over going all the way back to the Revolutionary War.

Incecticyder said:
He worships the Image founders but he did not do what they did which is band together and build something that made the Big 2 envious.
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In a way, though, CG is like Image in that it made a big splash at first, but then quickly disintegrated due to individual egos and chasing celebrity instead of focusing on putting out good books consistently and on time.
 
Train Operator said:
i swear Richard is legit a sub 80 IQ. the fact that he became popular enough to start a whole fucking movement is astonishing.
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He's blessed with exceptionally good luck (think DSP).

He admits this in his autobiography, IIRC.

SaidNoOneEver said:
Has anyone ever bothered to try getting a copy of Zack's DD-214? Without his or a next-of-kin's permission it has to be done via FOIA: https://www.archives.gov/personnel-records-center/foia-info
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Why? Do you think he's lying?

AFAIK, he's legit. Combat vet, and everything.
 
SaidNoOneEver said:
No I totally believe he's a combat vet. Maybe there's something in them that might better explain his PTSD spergery that he hasn't mentioned? Discharge status, postings, dates, etc.
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My guess is if he has PTSD then it could be one they do not test for or something. One that does trigger like normal. I am talking out of my ass here but this is my guess.
 
The Clownstrike (glitch) is effecting people in cg. Dark Grift was the first I know of to have an issue with his cloud data. Imagine keeping all your data in the cloud. thats a new form of dumb.

they make these things called external hard drives. you can even get a computer cheaper than taking a family of 5 to Mcdonalds. maybe have a cold Computer that can't access the net. However people still allow automatic updates.
 
Fascist Kirk said:
The Clownstrike (glitch) is effecting people in cg. Dark Grift was the first I know of to have an issue with his cloud data. Imagine keeping all your data in the cloud. thats a new form of dumb.

they make these things called external hard drives. you can even get a computer cheaper than taking a family of 5 to Mcdonalds. maybe have a cold Computer that can't access the net. However people still allow automatic updates.
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Counterpoint: Lazy CG'ers now have a new excuse for another year's delay on their already overdue books ("Crowdstrike lost muh files!"). Celebrations commence in ComicsGateville!
 
SaidNoOneEver said:
Counterpoint: Lazy CG'ers now have a new excuse for another year's delay on their already overdue books ("Crowdstrike lost muh files!"). Celebrations commence in ComicsGateville!
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I use the Cloud for one thing only: game saves. I and everyone else I know backs their work up OBSESSIVELY on multiple hard drives. That's not to say some people aren't dumbfucks or that even smart people sometimes make dumbfuck moves, but I detect the faint odor of bullshit here.
 
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