#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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Edgeymcedgename said:
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Cope in it's purest form.
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I didn't have the patience or masochistic streak necessary to sit through 8 minutes of Zack shitting out an opinion, but I read the transcript and it was far more painless (other than the fact that I was still reading Zack's retarded opinion).

This faggot again tries to tell us that "good books take time" and that people are just going to have to wait for good art. The days of a professional comic artist being able to put out a book every month are OVER because people have high expectations and the only way to meet those expectations is to take several years to finish a single issue. Never mind that people far more talented than Zack, Ethan, Malin, and most of the CG inner circle manage to do this on a regular basis.

To the people who say "Zack, Kirby used to do like 5 monthly books or whatever", Zack's response is that Kirby was a phenom and also his art wasn't very good (yes, he said this). Zack thinks comic audiences are accustomed to "good, modern" comic art, which necessarily means every vein and muscle striation must be thoroughly rendered and crosshatched into oblivion, a process that could take months, just so you can look at it for 3 seconds before moving on to the next panel. See, the old comic guys didn't know anatomy (yes he said this). Guys like Kirby's idea of anatomy is "a shoulder is a circle, the bicep is a tube". Richard C Meyer KNOWS quality and quality takes however goddamn long Richard C Meyer says it does.

So how did Zack come to the conclusion that getting books to backers on time is no longer important? Why, it's because Eric July's sales are no longer as strong as they were when he first launched Rippaverse. Sure, he's still blowing Zack's ass out of the water in both output and sales figures but he's not making as much as he did before! This naturally means the people buying it are getting books on time but they don't actually like them, or Eric would be making exactly as much or more than he was at the beginning. Zack's book will be good forever, you see, and that's because he puts out quality art. Eric July might be successful, but that's because his product sucks.

Please get a rope, Meyer.
 
Miniluv said:
So how did Zack come to the conclusion that getting books to backers on time is no longer important? Why, it's because Eric July's sales are no longer as strong as they were when he first launched Rippaverse. Sure, he's still blowing Zack's ass out of the water in both output and sales figures but he's not making as much as he did before! This naturally means the people buying it are getting books on time but they don't actually like them, or Eric would be making exactly as much or more than he was at the beginning. Zack's book will be good forever, you see, and that's because he puts out quality art. Eric July might be successful, but that's because his product sucks.
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Zack's 2nd book with Narwhal had a fucking horrendous color scheme, bright yellows, purples, greens, reds and pinks. Zack hasn't the slightest Idea what good art is, this is coming from someone who likes Narwhal's art btw(me not Zack) the book was made with darker colors in mind. Dark browns, whites and blacks. Plus he hyped up some non-factor in the story that was brushed off in the word balloons and didn't remotely effect the character design, she was a commander or something and was Afro-latina.

DOSE ANYONE FUCKING REMEMBER THIS GAY BOOK?
 
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I mean, Richard just wants to take the money, keep the money, and never deliver the product. Is that so wrong?
 
So, it's bad that Eric delivers his products.
Wow.
If only we had known earlier that the secret to crowdfunding success is not fulfilling the project.
 
I hadn't paid much attention to Zack since he started his crusade against "birthday party clowns" (not against it, just didn't care), but over the last few weeks he keeps popping up in my YouTube feed, and he's more annoying every time. He's turned into a standard issue shitlib who assures people he "votes Republican", like that's some sort of saving grace. I don't know that I've ever seen someone turn so... I don't know... faggot... after 50.
 
DeeDee Megadoodoo said:
I hadn't paid much attention to Zack since he started his crusade against "birthday party clowns" (not against it, just didn't care), but over the last few weeks he keeps popping up in my YouTube feed, and he's more annoying every time. He's turned into a standard issue shitlib who assures people he "votes Republican", like that's some sort of saving grace. I don't know that I've ever seen someone turn so... I don't know... faggot... after 50.
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It's funny how even though he's trying to rebrand, he can still find time to complain about that one trans person he hates who works for DC. Truly, he's a man for all seasons, like Francis Bacon.

Mmmm... bacon....
 
Miniluv said:
See, the old comic guys didn't know anatomy (yes he said this). Guys like Kirby's idea of anatomy is "a shoulder is a circle, the bicep is a tube".
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This is so Goddamned stupid, I never want to hear the word tourist come out of his mouth again.

Those tubes and circles are anatomy Richtard. They studied anatomy for years so they could simplify it down to easily (for a studied artist) replicable shapes for longform content.

They didn’t just randomly stick the tubes and circles together and magically get a person each time. It’s called simplification and construction, and almost every YouTube artist has a video on it. Watch that instead of jerking off to thumbnails of your latest man crush.

Ironically, only someone who has no appreciation of art would even accuse them of such a thing.
 
Tepes Thot said:
This is so Goddamned stupid, I never want to hear the word tourist come out of his mouth again.

Those tubes and circles are anatomy Richtard. They studied anatomy for years so they could simplify it down to easily (for a studied artist) replicable shapes for longform content.

They didn’t just randomly stick the tubes and circles together and magically get a person each time. It’s called simplification and construction, and almost every YouTube artist has a video on it. Watch that instead of jerking off to thumbnails of your latest man crush.

Ironically, only someone who has no appreciation of art would even accuse them of such a thing.
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Tldr: fake geek gay
 
Oh Jesus, now he's bitching about the oversize pickups men drive in Texas.

Serious question, is Zack a faggot? I've always thought he had an effeminate voice and whenever the subject of black men comes up he seems weirdly... interested. I remember his stories often having little details that left me going, 'wtf were you doing THERE?', like when he went on about living in Hell's Kitchen in NY, and how its a gayborhood. I realize he has kids, but so did that cowboy in the fag cowboys movie.
 
DeeDee Megadoodoo said:
Oh Jesus, now he's bitching about the oversize pickups men drive in Texas.

Serious question, is Zack a faggot? I've always thought he had an effeminate voice and whenever the subject of black men comes up he seems weirdly... interested. I remember his stories often having little details that left me going, 'wtf were you doing THERE?', like when he went on about living in Hell's Kitchen in NY, and how its a gayborhood. I realize he has kids, but so did that cowboy in the fag cowboys movie.
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Real gay
 
WhimsicalTrolli said:

Yet sending money to a obese has been who is openly open projects while not even touching the copious amount of projects dating back to 4 years ago is healthy?
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No Zack that's you, here are some examples.
1. Too stupid to recognize why people brought Jawbreakers in the first place(it was to own the libs)
2. fucked up a working relationship with a real mainstream artist(Chuck Dixon) and an up and coming artist(Narwhal)
3. Lost a chance to work with Massive IP in comics(Expendables, Rambo and possibly even Rocky if you didn't fuck it up)
4. Lost a Hollywood connection(Sly Stallone) that could've given you more IPs to work on or adapted your shitty comics.
And finally
5. Attacked a Group of people that know more about comics, movies and pop culture than you ever did for a retarded reason.

Fuck yourself to death Zack.
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Here's something you don't see every day (or ever really). A 9.0-graded 1996 Cyberfrog #1 for sale on European auction site Catawiki, signed last April by whoever Walt Simonson is and with the gold CGC label indicating a CGC person witnessed it being signed. Seller is in Spain.


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EDIT: Here's CGC's entry for that cert#:

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So, Richard doesn't like the Lord of the Rings because he can't pay attention to long movies. Of course, we already knew Richard hates things like Elves, Wizards, Dungeons, Dragons, etc, so I'm not really shocked. Oh, and he thinks TTRPG players stink up comic shops with their BO according to another video (unlike comics fans, who smell as fresh as daisies).

Richard does his mongoloid voice throughout the video. It's not surprising, since I suspect mongoloid is his natural state.
 
Tepes Thot said:
This is so Goddamned stupid, I never want to hear the word tourist come out of his mouth again.

Those tubes and circles are anatomy Richtard. They studied anatomy for years so they could simplify it down to easily (for a studied artist) replicable shapes for longform content.

They didn’t just randomly stick the tubes and circles together and magically get a person each time. It’s called simplification and construction, and almost every YouTube artist has a video on it. Watch that instead of jerking off to thumbnails of your latest man crush.

Ironically, only someone who has no appreciation of art would even accuse them of such a thing.
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I think it was Neal Adams who said that an artist's "style" is the shortcuts they take and the rules they break, but that necessarily means knowing what the rules are so you can break them effectively. Zack is overlooking the reality that the old school guys learned how to simplify anatomy and composition because they had to meet DEADLINES. They weren't pre-selling a product to imbeciles that didn't know when (or if) they were going to get what they paid for. Readers expected a book every thirty days. If they were unable to meet their deadlines, it fucks up the entire process. Editors have to deal with the fallout of a late artist, whether that means finding a fill-in at the last minute or rescheduling everything around that late book. Men like Kirby, Wally Wood, and Alex Toth (probably my favorite comic artist) perfected the practice of keeping things simple, while maintaining dynamism and clear storytelling, all while working a full time artist's schedule. This had the added effect of solidifying their reputation as reliable professionals. Zack doesn't understand this because he is not a reliable professional.

It's also pretty scummy that he's all but shifting the blame for the lateness of numerous projects to the artists he's hired to draw them. He doesn't come right out and say it, but he keeps hammering about how long it takes to draw a comic as if he's got Geof Darrow on the case. Judging from what I've seen of his unfulfilled campaigns, it's very hard for me to believe that ANY of these artists are taking that long. I think these books are actually a lot closer to completion than he's letting on, but he's already spent the backer's money and is too broke to pay for publishing/shipping at this point. He's not even going to bother giving updates anymore because he's literally run out of excuses.

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Oh, and he thinks TTRPG players stink up comic shops with their BO according to another video (unlike comics fans, who smell as fresh as daisies).
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If Zack wasn't completely retarded, he'd understand comics shops have to get as many people as possible in the door. That's why they sell TTRPG stuff and those godawful Funko things that spread like herpes over every retail space in America. There are very few comic shops left that sell only comics.

Gee Willows Wilson! said:
Poor guy, If I make it to 50 and I can't sit still through a movie, put a bullet in the back of my head.
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The irony of Mr. Good Art Takes Time being unable to pay attention to Good Art for 2 hours.
 
And though the industry genuinely teetered on the brink in 2023, it appears they took this wake-up call to heart, as a recent analysis of official sales data provided by ICv2 CEO Milton Griepp shows a significant boom in comic book interest across the past two years, “with sales in 2024 up 73% from 2019, and the trend is continuing into 2025.”

But perhaps more impressive was the fact that a significant and growing number of these sales were coming not from big box retailers like Target, Walmart, or Amazon, but rather actual comic book shops, as “dollar sales in comic shops went up by about 13.3% in 2024, while sales in the book channel [i.e. major retailers] dropped slightly, leading to the gap between the two narrowing for the first time in 15-20 years.”
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All they did was make it more violent, and more gay.
Yet the consumers marched in for Murderbat, Sadderman and Wonder Witch, no matter how gay or how obvious the political agenda was---it was violent.
Apparently that's all it takes now, just random disgusting, absurd levels of violence and people slurp it up like poo off a thumb.

So expect Zack to be taking a victory lap, that nothing was wrong with the agenda of comics, it was just lack of edgelord bullshit all along. It can be as gay and as communist as the writers want, so long as Batman's tearing a child Joker's guts out and strangling the baby Joker with them, it's A-Okay and totally in the spirit of foundational entertainment for children.

I wonder sometimes, what it would be like, if idiot asshole wastes of DNA woke up one day and realized: "I'm not a target demographic, I'm a fucking adult." None of this agenda driven bullshit would've happened, Meyer would've stayed a dumbass choking on his saliva in traffic, Ethan would've kept drawing Green Lantern's penis and Zoey Quinn probably would be a miserable soccer mom right now.

But nooooo, permavirgins had to force their childhood heroes to put down the Hostess fruit pies and pick up an M16. But because these guys that couldn't grow the fuck up had to have their adultified superheroes, the freakshows got to have their adultified superheroes too; and guess what? Those superheroes fuck eachother, and they cry about it, and they get diseases, and they cry about that. Then they abort their fucking super kids, and then you end up with Invinsible getting raped in full technicolor.

It couldn't just be: "I learned from Batman that practicing mercy on the criminally insane is better than murdering people who annoy me at the grocery store." It had to be: "Batman murders people who annoyed me at the grocery store, and the Joker, and Robin too---because he said bad things about the gays."

Now here we are, totally divorced from the idea of super morality, and marinating ourselves in goreporn revenge fantasies on our neighbors and co-workers.

What the ever-loving fuck...
 
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