#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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"you have been informed now". The sheer condescension in that last tweet is just sickening.

 

[Mola Ram]

Am I correct in thinking "well known harasser of people in comics" merely means "well known critic of people in comics"? Or does Ya Boy Zack go further than that?

 

[Somsnosa]

It's standard practice by companies to engage and retweet satisfied clients. It's easy honest publicity. There's nothing political about basic marketing

 

[Water-T]

"You have been informed now".

"Please kneel with your hands behind your head while the Thought Police arrive to arrest you for Wrong Think"

 

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Am I correct in thinking "well known harasser of people in comics" merely means "well known critic of people in comics"? Or does Ya Boy Zack go further than that?

Nah that's exactly the extent of it, he literally murders them trannies by making comic roast videos in which he coughs a lot.

 

[damian]

Am I correct in thinking "well known harasser of people in comics" merely means "well known critic of people in comics"? Or does Ya Boy Zack go further than that?

Nah that's exactly the extent of it, he literally murders them trannies by making comic roast videos in which he coughs a lot.

He keeps a collection of tranny and brown people skulls in the closet where he makes his videos, next to pile of ripped comic books and his klansman coat. That's the reason we only ever see the floor and his feet in his videos.

 

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He keeps a collection of tranny and brown people skulls in his closet where he makes his videos, next to pile of ripped comic books and his klansman coat. That's the reason we only ever see the floor and his feet in his videos.

You need to fix the photos, try uploading them to the website.

 

[damian]

You need to fix the photos, try uploading them to the website.

you should reload the page, i caught it immediately after hitting post. (this is how it looks like to me)

"you have been informed now". The sheer condescension in that last tweet is just sickening.

My favorite part in the whole convo is the "YOU FOLLOW HIS ACCOUNT" part. I can tell how outraged he was as he wrote it.

 

[BoredCat]

all these weirdos do are camp out on twitter 24/7 because they have no real life or real friends, (just associates they'll eventually backstab). it's really no wonder why their comics feel like they were written by an A.I. program.

( edited for grammar )

 

[RockVolnutt]

Am I correct in thinking "well known harasser of people in comics" merely means "well known critic of people in comics"? Or does Ya Boy Zack go further than that?

There is going to be some bias when I answer but anyways, not really. The "He's a harasser" arguments center around a bunch of the series he criticizes have non-white male protagonists (and creators because comics have been doing a lot of "black character=black writer") and times where he'd call a trans writer a "man in a wig" even though he still calls them by whatever they identify as. Usually people he criticized like Dan Slott/Bendis are ignored or his habit of 180ing when someone is nice and writes better stories like Chip Zdarsky.

Tamra Bonvillain's angle is they believe that should be off-limits and customers should prioritize the people behind the stories and consider their issues. I see that as a sign of not knowing how business works and you shouldn't be working with people if you're that sensitive.

 

[Chaos Theorist]

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Chris Ryall, former editor in chief of IDW was fired by IDW (not stepped down voluntarily as he and the corrupt comic press are claiming).

He was fired.

More to the point, the firing was done directly on orders from Hasbro. With Hasbro threatening to yank the entire Hasbro license from IDW as the first of April had they not thrown him to the wolves

They threatened to invoke a clause in their licensing deal with IDW to prematurely end the licensing agreement for the entire Hasbro line of comics. They did this after it turned out that Ryall had OKed letting Sitterson go crying to Bleeding Cool and promote the book, after Hasbro ordered his book buried. But also, with acting in 100% bad faith in the compromises that Hasbro agreed to with IDW over how to deal with Sitterson and his continued involvement at IDW

Hasbro at first assumed that Sitterson went rogue and defied Hasbro orders over promoting Scarlet Strike Force on his own. But several people close to Ryall at IDW essentially contacted Hasbro to say that Sitterson was not acting alone and had full backing from Ryall.

For those not familiar; Sitterson and his laundry list of sins finally caught up to him after he mocked victims of the September 11th attacks.

The controversy caused already dying sales on GI Joe to crater to new lows and forced IDW to reboot it as Scarlet Strike Force. But when Ryall and IDW refused to denounce Sitterson, major GI Joe fan sites contacted Hasbro directly to complain and publicly stated for all to hear that they were unpersoning IDW and their GI Joe books until Sitterson was fired.

Hasbro forced IDW to apologize but the damage was done. GI Joe was canceled but three issues of Scarlet Strike Force was already finished with Sitterson as writer. Hasbro wanted all three issues's worth of art shredded and the book never released and Sitterson gone.

Ryall and IDW begged to Hasbro that they could not financially take the hit of destroying the material they already paid to produce. Even with dismal pre-orders, they claimed they couldn't just destroy the issues already produced.

A deal was struck, where the three completed issues of Sitterson's Scarlet Strike Force would be published. BUT, there would be conditions:

1. IDW couldn't do ANY promotion whatsoever for the book
2. Sitterson could not do any promotion for the book
3. Sitterson had to STFU and go complete incommunicado until further notice
4. Sitterson would never be allowed to write another IDW GI Joe book. If the book was to continue, it would be under a new writer (planned to be Mags Visaggio, though she decided instead that she wanted to do TF Vs Visionaries instead).

IDW agreed, but Chris Ryall was already planning to break the deal he made with Hasbro. He and Aubrey were already working on creating a new pen name for Aubry to keep writing GI Joe under. Furthermore, when pre-orders for the three issues were so dismal even by IDW standards, Chris went to Bleeding Cool and asked them to interview Aubrey and to help promote the book.

Bleeding Cool knew full well about the deal Chris made with Hasbro and were more than willing to help him and Aubrey violate the terms of the deal.

When the articles first came out, Ryall was terrified of Hasbro's wrath. And good reason; Hasbro's contracts with IDW expire at the end of 2018. And they've made no bones about how IDW has to make serious, massive changes if they want to keep the Hasbro master license. And that renewal is most likely not going to happen, if sales don't improve after an apocalyptic sales crash in 2017.

Hasbro acted fast, contacting IDW and telling them they wanted Sitterson gone for good. Not just banished from writing the Hasbro books, from IDW forever. Meaning they can't hire him to write any other licenses so long as they have the Hasbro licenses. Ryall refused at first, but when they pointed out that Ryall's refusal would result in them point-blank refusing to re-up the license for their properties? Ryall caved, because he knew doing so would kill any chances of IDW getting loans to keep it afloat after he ran the company into the ground.

At this point, the relationship between Hasbro and Ryall was bad. But they still didn't know what a ratfuck Ryall was. Ryall got cocky that he avoided any blowback for violating the terms of the deal he struck with Hasbro over Sitterson.

But several employees, were starting to panic that Ryall and his "woke" bullshit was going to kill IDW. This was intensified as Ryall resumed work with Sitterson, to find a way to create a front for him to continue writing GI Joe in spite of the fact that Hasbro made it clear they wanted nothing more to do with him.

The culminated in Ryall threatening to fire a secretary at the company, if she did not agree to become Aubrey's "front". Basically Aubrey would write a new GI Joe book, relaunched later this year during the Unicron event. The secretary would effectively let Aubrey use her name, create social media accounts in her name, and steal her identity in order to write for GI Joe and promote GI Joe. Ryall even came up with a new "backstory" for her, complete with her being a hardcore communist type (even though the secretary herself was a middle of the road moderate Hillary supporter). The secretary would receive a small pittance for her trouble, especially compared to the money Sitterson would get in return.

This angered some within the company and they decided to take the secretary (and the proof they had acquired regarding the scheme) to Hasbro. They sold Ryall out and basically told them what he was planning, along with how he had given Sitterson full permission to go crying to Bleeding Cool/promote Scarlet Strike Force.

Hasbro, needless to say, was pissed. VERY pissed.

The rats begged Hasbro to show forgiveness. And that they betraying their boss, in hopes of salvaging the company's relationship with Hasbro as far as painting the entire situation as Ryall being a rogue element in the company. And these were not closet conservatives; one of them was the person who heavily pushed IDW to hire Visaggio.

Hasbro ultimately contacted Ryall and the others in charge at IDW and told them they knew what Ryall did. That he betrayed the generous deal they made, in good faith with IDW, in dealing with Sitterson. Ryall, to his credit, owned up to everything but was shut down at every turn by Hasbro when he tried to use current year bullshit to defend himself. Hasbro then dropped the mother of all bombs on IDW.

There is a clause in their IDW contract, which says that Hasbro can void the deal at any time. The triggering event, is that if Hasbro finds out that IDW acted in malicious bad faith towards the company and their brands. By renegging on the deal he made with not promoting Scarlet Strike Force and muzzling Sitterson, along with conspiring to continue to employ Sitterson? Hasbro deemed it an active act of malicious bad faith, in terms of IDW handling their properties and their relationship with Hasbro.

Activating the clause would have voided the entire IDW master license for Hasbro properties; meaning they would lose everything before the end of the year (if the license was not renewed). From what has been said, the revocation would go into effect April 1st so they would still publish the stuff coming out in March. But anything planned for release April onward would be deader than disco and could not be released, because they would no longer have the license to make Hasbro comics.

The only way Hasbro would stay their hand and even consider entertaining, IDW's mad hope of keeping the license, was to kick Ryall to the curb. Ryall, to his credit, agreed but only if his sins were kept top secret. Mainly because, IDW could never let what Ryall did become public out of fear that Sega, Nickelodeon, etc would pull their license and no one would want to do business with IWD ever again. What with their history of betraying their license holders.

Ryall's media cronies like Heidi MacDonald are currently shilling the lie that he left voluntarily. But he was fired for actively fucking with Hasbro's bread and butter. People like ThatUmbrellaGuy and Diversity & Comics are pushing the sales collapse meme, because that's the only surface reason for why Ryall was fired. But they only know HALF the story and people like Heidi and Rich Johnston are terrified of the real story coming out. Because it would kill IDW deader than dirt if the extent that Ryall fucked the company over ever came out.

https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/99297027

 

[MidUSA]

If true, that reminds me of when TNA Wrestling lolcow Dixie Carter lost her company it's TV-deal by secretly re-employing wrestling (and in life overall) lolcow Vince Russo despite explicit demand from the station (Spike?) that they wanted him nowhere around.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

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Maybe, but these arrogant fucknoodles have had their collective heads up each other's asses for so many years at this point it kind of wouldn't surprise me. They clearly don't care about sales; not sure why they would care any more about licenses. Having said that, letting Sitterson be interviewed by Bleeding Cool after saying you would do no such thing is kind of pushing it. Dunno.

 

[ChevroletBlackboard]

Seems kinda BS but from what little I've read into IDW it wouldn't surprise me if every word of it was true.

 

[Water-T]

Daaaaaaamn. So basically, Hasbro told IDW to put a leash on Sitterson and let them release the only three completed issues of his series, but only on the condition that he STFU and IDW keep promotion of it to a minimum. Since Ryall was determined to back a lame horse like Sitterson, he and Aubrey conspired to let some poor woman act as a sockpuppet so Ryall's butt-buddy could continue to push out garbage and collect a paycheck....except some employees didn't like the fact that two men were using a woman as a scapegoat. So they ratted them out to Hasbro, and they're threatening to pull their license unless Ryall GTFO. So now he's exiting under the guise of "It's OK - it's just my time to go! Nothing to see here, folks!"

 

[NG 070]

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https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/99297027

Part of this feels like a "My dad works at Nintendo"-esque story. Especially since there are some chronological inconsistencies that some /co/mrades in the thread point out.

But OTOH, I could see this actually happening, too.

Regardless of the validity of this? Losing the license for the Hasbro stuff would fuck IDW several ways 'til next year, because much like Star Wars was for Dark Horse, the Hasbro licenses are pretty much the thing that's keeping IDW afloat. Sure, they have stuff like TMNT, Ghostbusters (which they only do as mini-series now), and a few odds and ends (like Star Wars comics for the kiddos); but Hasbro is where the real money is for them.

I'd imagine whoever gets the Hasbro licenses next, if IDW loses it at all, will have some pretty strict clauses in the contract that basically states that Hasbro has the final say in who can be hired for the comics, especially after a thorough -and I mean thorough- check of their social media presence. Hasbro is gonna have zero tolerance for this BS from now on.

 

[RockVolnutt]

Either way, the idea that someone willingly left a company that under their watch had a profits drop of NINTY-ONE percent in a single year sounds like bull. I wouldn't be surprised if this has some truth to it. Even in the best case, he was probably purged by his own company.

 

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https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/99297027

Archive: http://archive.is/uuCZW

Everybody, please try to archive anything you post, especially when it concerns people of interest. I don't want any piece of info to slip between our fingers again. I am still peeved by the disappearance of Melissa Morgue, that would have been a fucking thread and a half .

Regarding the story itself, some of it sounds very believable imo, especially the part about Ryall's firing, like RockVolnutt just said, there's no way IDW would have not fired him after their dismal sales and PR gaffes. But the secretary thing is.. meh to be entirely honest, I mean, it would be hilarious if two male feminists colluded to fuck over a secretary's career and life just so one of them can write funny books, but I don't think it's realistic to be honest, you can create pen names without the need for such drastic measures, just ask CB Cebulski.

 

[damian]

You know what? This 4chan post might be true, this looks more like the attitude of a guy who got fired than one of someone who "voluntarily" stepped down:
Tweet (Archive)

I dont know about the Mags GI Joe, it might be fake, one of the CG guys photo shopped a Bleeding Cool article and people momentarily thought it was real.

This Thump guy is a pretty interesting character. He's been called a white supremacist by the Mary Sue and he made the best response possible:

His response to the article made the book so popular, Thump started thanking the Mary Sue:

 

[NG 070]

Ah, man. Timothy 'Ninjaink' Lim. I kinda used to like his stuff, even if a lot of it was mashup garbage to sell t-shirts. Ever since he drank the MAGA/Trump koolaid, he's gone off the deep end just as bad as some of the SJWs he rails against. Especially with his constant dick sucking of Scott Adams.

At least he's a fairly competent artist, all things considered.