#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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No, I know it’s not a copyright lawsuit. I’m saying Disney literally controls the legislature and has the best (((lawyers)))) money can buy. I’m just using their copyright and wrongful death suits to say it’s unlikely.

The best lawyers in the world cannot get out from a situation wherein the one rule of title 15 is broken. Corporations have lobbied hard to put as many loopholes, exceptions and fuzzy language as possible into that part of the Federal Code. But the One Rule, never lie about the competition, has not been touched because that is a weapon that is as deadly to the user as the victim. There is a reason Mark Waid's handlers tard wrangled him. He has committed a grievous sin, one that US law has very little wiggle room for finding forgiveness. Right now they are desperately trying to figure out a way to spin things so it seems like Waid never presented himself improperly.

Unfortunately, they have to worry about the indie publisher that caved. Those weak kneed milksops could be deposed under oath in front of a federal magistrate, and they are under no obligation to defend Marvel and Mark Waide at that point. So they will certainly not carry on with the party line of pretending they were not illegally pressured to drop the contract.
 
TFW you face jail time for being unable to live in a world where people just think different than you......... and break the law in "service" of making them stop!
 
I cant wair until diversity in comics commits suicide with 9 shots to the head and his last words being: you dont fuck with the mouse mafia
 
First, I hope D&C wins this thing. I'm not expecting Jawbreakers to be the biggest comic in the history of ever, but Marvel needs a good hard smack across the face to cut it out with all of their horseshit and I hope this lawsuit does just that.

Second, it really pains me to realize how much of an asswipe Mark Waid is. I loved his earlier stuff like Kingdom Come. Hell, Waid was one of the co-creators of the concept of DC's 'Esleworlds' books and also help spearhead the Age of Apocalypse storyarc (which I know a lot of people didn't like, but it's what brought me from casually reading comics to really loving the medium). But now... shit.
 
https://twitter.com/deadbeaters/status/996500553432813569 (https://archive.li/yXM2Y)
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Anything that hurts The House of Mouse is a good thing, though I would prefer it be their entire business strategy deemed fraudulent rather than one tard sperging out. Alas, as others have said, they own Congress on matters related to copyright.

Also wait: This isn't a lawsuit yet? Isn't that why you made the thread, instead of "legally actionable shit has occurred?"
 
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Its not a lawsuit yet, but it can be very much. The legally actionable threshold has been crossed and all the parties are saying the magic words, from D&C talking about unfair business activities, to the surge of blog posts saying Marvel dindu nuffin, to Mark Waide and his buddies deleting fucking everything.

Its up to D&C to pull the trigger, but from where I sit he has a case under title 18 for Defamation and conspiracy by Mark Waide and others. This is fed by title 15 violations for unfair businesses practices, tortuous interference with a business relationship, and violations of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act by using positions of industry domination to control independent retail distributors to deny lawful market competition. As D&C's indigogo campaign is over the federal minimum of 70,000 dollars, he is allowed to sue for damages at the same level as a fortune 500 company. We are talking millions of dollars here, and the Sherman Act violations are criminally reachable by the Federal Trade Commission.

This is big...if true.
 
Its not a lawsuit yet, but it can be very much. The legally actionable threshold has been crossed and all the parties are saying the magic words, from D&C talking about unfair business activities, to the surge of blog posts saying Marvel dindu nuffin, to Mark Waide and his buddies deleting fucking everything.

Its up to D&C to pull the trigger, but from where I sit he has a case under title 18 for Defamation and conspiracy by Mark Waide and others. This is fed by title 15 violations for unfair businesses practices, tortuous interference with a business relationship, and violations of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act by using positions of industry domination to control independent retail distributors to deny lawful market competition. As D&C's indigogo campaign is over the federal minimum of 70,000 dollars, he is allowed to sue for damages at the same level as a fortune 500 company. We are talking millions of dollars here, and the Sherman Act violations are criminally reachable by the Federal Trade Commission.

This is big...if true.
If if if. Those are nice ideas but Title 15 lawyers are not the local drunks you hire to make a misdemeanor go away, they are incredibly expensive professionals.
 
If if if. Those are nice ideas but Title 15 lawyers are not the local drunks you hire to make a misdemeanor go away, they are incredibly expensive professionals.

If indeed. Which is why I am watching this one with baited breath and a full bottle of liquor. Its going to be more entertaining then the Damore lawsuit.

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and under normal circumstances, I would say this would get buried under red tape and inevitably settled for peanuts. But remember who runs the executive branch of the USA right now. Federal Trade Commission complaints are inevitably as political as they are legal, and Breitbart.com has fired the first salvo. Someone at the White House has read the article in the OP. The moment D&C makes a formal complaint, the FTC is going to get "an email".
 
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Didn't Kieran try to make a comic on Kickstarter that got funded and never saw the light of day? (genuine question because half of these clowns are white Brits or Americans who all look the exact same) I really don't think he can criticize Zack over Jawbreakers until he puts up and releases the comic.

Unless, you know, he took the Kickstarter money and ran. Let's be honest, that option is far more likely.

Almost every SJW Kickstarter has been an absolute scam where they just collect a bunch of money and then steal it, either releasing absolutely nothing like Zoe Quinn's Chuck Tingle scam, or releasing some vastly inferior oversold shit.

Say what you like about what you've seen of Jawbreakers so far, but there is an actual product that will be released.

These little bitches who acted like their "art" being criticized was another shoah, even though their art is absolute shit and that's obvious if you even look at it as a non-critic, basically said to him "hey if you think our art is shit how about you do better?" From what I've seen, he did exactly that, and for doing exactly what he was challenged to, these book burning Nazis launched an illegal and frankly terrorist campaign to destroy him.

I'm not even misusing the Nazi comparison here, because book burning literally is a Nazi strategy. Smashing up stores where die Juden Ethan van Sciver did a book signing to terrorize them into blacklisting him is more than a little reminiscent of Kristallnacht too. Funny how these turds so fond of screaming that anyone who disagrees with them is a Nazi are so casually adopting actual Nazi strategies.

Anyway, that was some fairly mad on the Internet autistic ranting, although looking back at it, I can't really say I'd change a word.

It's just infuriating and strangely hilarious at the same time to see one of these SJW fucks criticize someone who isn't one of them for doing a Kickstarter and actually delivering a product (despite their screeching fascist and illegal attempts to block it) when virtually every SJW kickscam/indieblowgo/hipster welfare project has been an absolute scam start to finish and never delivered shit.

The cringe physically hurt me. Also Cow Crossover with Trans Lifeline:
https://twitter.com/KingImpulse/status/996375863183765504 (http://archive.is/cWMsn)
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Do you know what people see when they see someone wearing a T-shirt with a swastika on it?

They see someone wearing a T-shirt with a swastika on it. Any idiot wearing this is pretty likely to be punched by antifa. At the very least, they'll get the stinkeye from everyone who sees the swastika and instantly concludes whoever is wearing it is a Nazi.
 
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Is there still potential for the comic to get a publisher? I would love to pick it up if not just out of pure spite.

It's not actually "canceled." That's a lie. They're self-publishing and they have the money to do it.

What I love is how the Sherman Anti-trust act is being bandied about. That is a part of the law that lawyers get boners about, because the moment you have the Sherman in your lawsuit, the amount of money involved becomes huge. Companies like Disney will settle for millions if you have a case under that particularly glorious part of the law.

I think it's a stretch.

But just even being able to raise it credibly causes lawyers for multibillion dollar companies to turn pale and shit themselves.

No, I know it’s not a copyright lawsuit. I’m saying Disney literally controls the legislature and has the best (((lawyers)))) money can buy. I’m just using their copyright and wrongful death suits to say it’s unlikely.

This is one of those issues where it isn't your standard lawsuit against Disney, which sues everyone for copyright infringement while blatantly stealing from others (like they stole Lion King from Kimba the White Lion).

Their usual strategy is just to spend you into the ground. The thing with Sherman, though, is the more money you have, the more you stand to lose. A loss in one of these can absolutely obliterate your entire model of business. And the more you have, the more the other side stands to gain, so if the case is remotely credible, you can end up facing a team as formidable as your own, no matter how big you are.

Now, there are a number of layers of corporation insulating Disney itself from this, and I think it may even be that only Mark Waid himself is liable here, but if Disney does get dragged into it, an unlikely event, things get really interesting.
 
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Who cares
Marvel and Mark Waid, apparently. Some guy reviewing a product in his free time on youtube shouldn't warrant one of the biggest companies in the industry trying to stop up his business, but here we are.

People still read American comics?
If they had any actual readers to speak of, marvel wouldn't be reeing at some internet reviewer as hard as they are.
Is he using the accusation of an ad-hominem as an ad-hominem?
 
There is a reason Mark Waid's handlers tard wrangled him. He has committed a grievous sin, one that US law has very little wiggle room for finding forgiveness.

I know this is still in rumor territory, but if it's true Disney/Marvel did that, it really limits their liability and they would have preserved a paper trail (probably an email trail) so that if this ever goes to court, they can prove that they didn't authorize this and Waid was on a weird frolic of his own and not acting on their behalf.

I cant wair until diversity in comics commits suicide with 9 shots to the head and his last words being: you dont fuck with the mouse mafia

The thing is, Disney isn't behind this and to the extent one of their lowest peons dragged them into this shit, they're going to be way more pissed at Mark Waid than they are at Zack.

They have no compunction about being outright bullies and doing shit, as mentioned earlier, like forcing daycares to paint over murals with Disney characters in them, but that's shit they actually want to do. They're defending their property, in their opinion.

They have absolutely no interest whatsoever in being dragged into dumb political bullshit, and the person in their employ who does that will be the target of their wrath.
 
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