#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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That's pretty surprising. Considering the Northcott Kickstarter seems to have quite a few progressive people chipping in. I'm actually kinda interested in it just based on the art and I'll probably back it.

Crap. No, your instincts were right and I'm wrong. And not just once, but twice in the same sentence. Amazing skill I've got.

I was thinking of this tweet:

https://twitter.com/BlakeNorthcott/status/1023966991030177792

Where she was joking with the creator of Patriotika about #Skirtgate.

First, I thought Patriotika was affiliated with Vox Day. Not only was it not, Vox himself had a sperg out over it when the creator (rather politely) told him thanks, but no thanks in terms of being affiliated with ol' Teddy...

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/10/cucktriotika.html

Second, even if Patriotika had been, there's no reason to assume, as I did, that that meant she'd have had anything to do with Day.

Phooey.
 
Are all of these by people associated or loosely associated to Comicsgate?
These are the books I see them backing, I know Blake Northcott is on friendly terms with a bunch on CG spergs. Mike is popular among the EVS fans, but is disliked by a portion of CG spergs for being a sped.
As an aside, anyone know anything about the new top dog at IDW? He's clearly a TV guy, a "creative," and not one that strikes me as likely to swing the ax if cuts need to be made.
When in doubt check Umbrella Guy:
REEsetEra are now officially on board the autism train.

@damian, @emspex, have fun with it.
Even I don’t want swim in the Dead Sea Of Autism.
Thanks, but I would rather kill myself.
Same.
 
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What have they, a videogame forum, anything to do with comics? Do they just enjoy being mad?
It makes perfect sense when you consider they've basically said before "REEE HOW CAN ANYONE TALK ABOUT VIDYA WHEN SERIOUS ISSUES ARE GOING ON!?" and they're really a political forum at this point. They see the thing with comics as a politic issue and thus it'll be on their radar.

Shit ends up consuming every aspect of your life once you go down the "everything in inherently political" route. It's tragic as they can no longer remember what fun is.
 
Can I get the bullet points? I'll look at it later if it isn't the same old "Everything will be saved once the magical black lesbians save us".
Nah he just mentions all the other problems with the industry, not one mention of how the pros are pushing away their current consumers in favor of a phantom market.

EDIT:
The other problems:
  • Over reliance on #1s.
  • The problem with Legacy Numbering.
  • Events or crossovers take place in multiple series (Uses Batman's 'Death Of The Family' as an example, 9 different Batman-related series)
  • Terrible marketing/advertising.
  • The price of Digital single issues being the same as printed versions.
  • Movies influencing the comics, instead of the opposite.
  • The niche-ness of comic shops.
  • Diamond holding the monopoly in comic distribution.
  • The trouble of shared universes and continuity.
He also starts beggin Marvel to shill his channel (and other shill channels) in the main Marvel social media accounts.
 
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Can I get the bullet points? I'll look at it later if it isn't the same old "Everything will be saved once the magical black lesbians save us".

It was surprisingly reasonable. Eliminate confusing story arcs, do more and more effective marketing, possibly lower the prices on digital titles and expand the availability of free digital titles. Also threw in a few lines about baaadd comic book shop owners who don't welcome diverse audiences, but that bit was over very quick.

Said nothing about #ComicsGate, comics pros having twitter sperg outs, bizarre gender swaps, killing off long time favorites, and so on. I doubt he could talk about those things and keep his brogressive credentials intact, so you take what you can get.

'Course he also stuck America Chavez in the thumbnail. :| And several commenters noted that as one of the problems.
 
It was surprisingly reasonable. Eliminate confusing story arcs, do more and more effective marketing, possibly lower the prices on digital titles and expand the availability of free digital titles. Also threw in a few lines about baaadd comic book shop owners who don't welcome diverse audiences, but that bit was over very quick.

Said nothing about #ComicsGate, comics pros having twitter sperg outs, bizarre gender swaps, killing off long time favorites, and so on. I doubt he could talk about those things and keep his brogressive credentials intact, so you take what you can get.

'Course he also stuck America Chavez in the thumbnail. :| And several commenters noted that as one of the problems.
Hard to get to the actual source of the problem when he's practically begging Marvel to notice him and give him those sweet sweet Retweets for his reviews.

PS: @RockVolnutt, I edited my response:
EDIT:
The other problems:
  • Over reliance on #1s.
  • The problem with Legacy Numbering.
  • Events or crossovers take place in multiple series (Uses Batman's 'Death Of The Family' as an example, 9 different Batman-related series)
  • Terrible marketing/advertising.
  • The price of Digital single issues being the same as printed versions.
  • Movies influencing the comics, instead of the opposite.
  • The niche-ness of comic shops.
  • Diamond holding the monopoly in comic distribution.
  • The trouble of shared universes and continuity.
He also starts beggin Marvel to shill his channel (and other shill channels) in the main Marvel social media accounts.
 
tbh I don't get the thing with dicking over the old "FUCKING WHITE MALE" characters for the new ones. No one wants to be the next Captain America if you make Captain America an awful person and/or goes out like a chump. There's nothing stopping the newer characters from going that route besides being socially inconvenient as of right now. When it does happen, you know they'll argue the same arguments people they hated used.

It's just like how no one ever points out how ree'ing at your current audience is a bad business idea as it sets the norm as that. If you treat your current audience poorly then you're certainly going to do this to the "woman and PoC" they want. This should be an EXTREME issue to them if they actually cared about their progressivism but what do I know?
 
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https://twitter.com/diversityandcmx/status/1024095581206130691
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https://twitter.com/DiversityAndCmx/status/1024099048066887680
Sana Amanat: Marvel is not a boy brand anymore
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The Pakistani-American ‘Ms. Marvel’ co-creator talked about the strong women who came before her

Marwa Hamad, Staff Reporter
09:26 March 11, 2017

Behind every great woman is a legion of other women inspiring her.

For Sana Amanat, director of content and character development at Marvel and co-creator of Marvel’s first Muslim superhero, Ms Marvel, that includes her trailblazing mother and aunt.

Then unmarried, Amanat’s mum travelled from Pakistan to Beirut in the early 1960s. Still on her own, she travelled from Beirut to New York. Her mum has employed the term ‘meek’ to describe herself in those days, but Amanat sees another story.

“As a Muslim woman in 1964, that’s insane to me,” said Amanat, talking to Gulf News tabloid! at the Emirates Airline Festival of Literature last week. “She was truly independent.”


In fact, she still is. When President Donald Trump signed an executive order to stop travellers from seven Muslim majority countries from entering America earlier this year, dubbed by many a ‘Muslim ban’, Amanat posted a photo of her mother protesting. That spirit runs in her family. (“Mum’s older sister started the first all-female university in Jeddah, Dar Al Hekma,” said Amanat.)


Amanat’s parents attended university together and later married, becoming the kind of couple to host town halls together. They also started an Islamic centre in Boonton, New Jersey, 30 years ago. “It has now grown significantly. They’ve renovated. It’s a beautiful community centre,” said Amanat.

In a nut shell: Amanat’s mother is opinionated, sends her daughter ‘text poetry’ and has always told her never to depend on a man. “‘Make sure whatever you do, you get your own job, you make your own money.’ That’s what she did. She was making more money than my dad in the beginning,” said Amanat.


MS. MARVEL

Amanat took her mother’s advice and ran with it. Most famously, she co-created young superhero Kamala Khan — the fourth character to be named Ms. Marvel — nearly four years ago.

Khan, a 16-year-old Pakistani-American girl, became the first Muslim to headline her own comic book series. She held up a mirror to a portion of young readers who hadn’t seen themselves represented substantially in the comic world before.

“We kind of led with the fact that she’s Muslim, but that’s not really what the story is about. It’s not about her being Muslim. That’s an aspect of her identity,” said Amanat.

Though there are other Muslim characters in the Marvel universe, none have taken off quite like Khan has. Amanat says a leading Arab superhero is a possibility.

“We want to explore the Palestinian experience, for example. I mean, I’d love to explore that experience through a superhero experience,” said Amanat.

“I think it’s also really important for us to find the right voices to do that. We need Arab voices. Yes, we should have more Arab superheroes, but we need more Arab voices to be able to bring that authenticity.”

Her advice to young content-creators: make sure you’re doing the work and putting it out there. “Because at some point, we will find you if you have the talent,” she said.


GOING PLACES

Khan became so popular that she was invited into the White House, along with her creator. Amanat said it was awe-inspiring to present Ms. Marvel to President Barack Obama.

“It’s really hard to express how stunned I was, and excited, and confused, because comics. How did comics get into the White House? That’s awesome,” she said. “[Obama is] actually a comics fan.”

Beyond sharing Ms. Marvel with him, she prized the opportunity to talk about Marvel’s mission statement and the concept of diversity.

“It’s such a loaded word these days. Sometimes it sounds like an agenda. Sometimes people misinterpret what diversity even means. And I think it’s becoming diluted because of that,” said Amanat.

“I wanted to just remind people that it’s not a trend. It’s not something that we’re trying to capitalise on…It’s our existence. It’s how we’ve existed for aeons.”


SILVER SCREEN

Amanat’s next big dream is to take Khan off the written page and onto a television screen. She would prefer a series to a film adaptation, partially because it would become indoctrinated into people’s lives more regularly.

“It makes more sense to be more of a grounded, quirky, funny television show,” she said.

“I have high hopes it will go beyond the comics’ stage, because I think a lot of people love her and believe in her and want to support her,” she said. It’s just a matter of time, she said, though there aren’t any immediate plans to make it happen.

Amanat, a self-professed Jane Austen buff, said her first foray into comics was Archie and his Riverdale gang, who are stars of their own television series today.

“Archie Comics was something that was so catered towards younger girls, and women. There wasn’t that much comics outside of that,” said Amanat.

She began to explore animations, watching the X-Men, and DC’s Batman and Justice League. It wasn’t until later in life that she started reading superhero comics.

“People assume it’s for kids, and that superhero storytelling in particular is really gimmicky and has no real substance to it — it’s just men and women in spandex,” she said. Early issues of Black Panther comics, X-Men comics and The Runaways proved otherwise.

“All of these books deal with really complex, complicated issues that are talking about the social issues of our time,” she said.

Amanat’s job is to creatively reimagine characters, their stories, and the avenues through which Marvel can take them around the world. Much like a real-life superhero, her work isn’t done yet.

“My biggest passion is always going to be how we can make Marvel a gender-neutral brand,” she said. “It’s not a boy brand anymore.”
https://gulfnews.com/culture/books/sana-amanat-marvel-is-not-a-boy-brand-anymore-1.1991792
It’s official, CB’s ball are hanging on her keychain.
 
What is it with these self-inserts? Are they so devoid of life experiences and achievements they have to put themselves into a comic book to feel like they've accomplished something with their lives?

Nigga, go get kidnapped or some shit.
 
This is from Del Arroz site - I believe its being kept fairly up to date by Umbrellaguy and Edwin Boyette (sorry for the split image, but the list is terribly formatted on my end at least)
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These are the books I see them backing, I know Blake Northcott is on friendly terms with a bunch on CG spergs. Mike is popular among the EVS fans, but is disliked by a portion of CG spergs for being a sped.
I think one of the reasons Cummings (and other speds) flipped their shit a while back was that Mike suddenly started popping up on CG streams. EVS, Blake Northcotte , Tim Lim and the Breitwesier's would often appear in the chats of all the bigger CG you-tubers and talk to people - so they had done their time (paid fealty to the king) while Mike hadn't.
 
Frankly I think folks are overlooking the central underlying point here.

A bunch of no name fucking negative-number selling comic artists having a twitter fight with some random youtube sped with less than 100k subs was deemed such a massive issue by people behind the scenes that strings were pulled to get jim jeffries and comedy central to be brought in to try and take him out with an embarrasingly simpson esque edited hitpiece

The fact that connections were obviously pressed so damn hard for such a mindbendingly pathetic reason to such utterly miserable effect speaks volumes as to the situation these fucking people have made for themselves. Because out of touch execs are still under the impression that "pretending to be woke will get us gorrillions of tumblr demographic customers" you have random scrubmonkeys with zero fandom or status outside the cloistered world of woke-media-cliques having free reign of their bosses' and companys' connections to do nothing but extend their twitter tantrums to a new media by any means necessary.
And let us think on the implications alone. These wankers, not even they have enough faith on their ideals to run to an already settled interview with an insignificant pawn for a large channel interested in making a seemingly easy hit piece.
They are not mad for having everything settled and losing, they are butthurt because the horrible monster that is reality is knocking the bloody door. The sells are extremely poor and the reviews don't worth a damn, those more interested in wokeness pirate and jump to the next trend, and these people can only swallow their pride with a Venti because mainstream cable late night show support is useless. Time follows its course. This is the future baby, and the supreme comic book Chad known as your boi Zach just raised the score. Those actually interested just have more reasons to support their side. Basement dwellers of the interwebs, let the autism begin.
 
FIFY. She is cute, shame she has SJW brain. It’s always sad when they don’t look like literal cows.
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A weeb is just a nerd for a culture that has nothing but disdain for him.

That said, the irony isn't lost on me. The one guy that could have corrected everything by taking cues from the successful manga market... and they castrate him before he has the chance.
 
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