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Unfortunately, if he wants to put the word "Comicsgate" on everything he does, he's going to be seen as part of the movement by the general public no matter how many people say otherwise.
#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!
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Unfortunately, if he wants to put the word "Comicsgate" on everything he does, he's going to be seen as part of the movement by the general public no matter how many people say otherwise.
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Agreed, I'm just saying that suggesting what Vox Day was doing with Alt-Hero was some kind of prelude to Comicsgate is a dumb argument, IMO.
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Even if CGate had some good ideas, they doomed themselves to this kind of political hairpulling and infighting as soon as they gave themselves an official brand as #Comicsgate. An unnamed range of people who share the same vision would be harder to ghettoize and blacklist, and could maintain plausible deniability. If you unite under a flag don't be surprised when someone tries to snatch it. Now they all just look like morons to all the anti-CGers.
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I wonder how long it will be before IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog will become an SJW shiftiest (in addition to the usual furfaggotry and :autism:.) Assuming IDW doesn't go tits up in the next few months.
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Let's be honest, most of the audience for Sonic the Hedgehog in general is white. Americans and Brits are the only people that got super into it.
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Vox Day is so much of a White Supremacist he makes the Daily Stormer look like the Griot. The only reason he isn't a talking head for the WN movement is because he's too autistic for them.
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http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/09/where-even-sjws-fear-to-tread.html
Vox day is a leech trying co-opt a movement to raise his profile and divert CG shekels into his own pockets, he's tried it before with both gamergate and sad-puppies into rabid-puppies at the hugo awards.
It'll be idiotic if this does go to court, however I always took the quote to be that CG doesn't need 'leaders' everyone can have a say in what comics they choose to support no matter their skin colour or ideology (i.e. It's a consumer revolt). Vox has come in and tried to crown himself as a king, push his brand of identity politics, associate most CGers who want less identity politics in stories with the far right and handed anti-CG a cudgel to beat them with ('see i told you CG was full of Nazis').
These are very telling quotes, the biggest reason he's done this is to try and force the smaller successful CG indigogos under his own publishing house, in a extortion tactic 'Your not real CG unless published under my CG banner'. If Vox just kept making his shit Alt-hero books nobody would care (or buy them).
Vox day is a leech trying co-opt a movement to raise his profile and divert CG shekels into his own pockets, he's tried it before with both gamergate and sad-puppies into rabid-puppies at the hugo awards.
Logo looks like shit and colours are co-opted from GG (Vivian James mascot sweater) which in turn was co-opted from the women's suffrage movement, but at least GG only did it for shits and giggles.
Simeti was recently talking about being close to a deal to have them in dollar store chains across the country, i wonder if the latest hit pieces and outrage are an attempt to scuttle that deal. I know it doesn't take much to trigger the pros, but lots of places have social media policies, hell DC has one, although it never seems to be enforced.
Two of the biggest manga right now are OPM and MHA, both are different takes on superhero worlds, from there its not too big a jump into most shonen books. Sure they aren't quite typical superhero books, but they have similar themes and lots of fun action.
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SJWs explain minorities and women in Comicsgate:
https://twitter.com/heyjenbartel/status/1036665233564213248 https://archive.fo/keLSj
Too bad she’s such a bitch, she’s actually a pretty good artist imo.
- They’re fake: Digital Blackface
- They’re race traitors: Uncle Toms
- They hate themselves: Internalized Mysoginy
Too bad she’s such a bitch, she’s actually a pretty good artist imo.
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He's totally fucking right. Overall, this whole thing is getting gay as fuck and you know it. You've been feeling it for the past few weeks and just don't want to admit it because you don't want the shitty people to win.
Well, they "won." They're not making any money, but they did what they set out to do. Welcome to reality.
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This isn't so much GG 2.0 as it is GG 0.7. When you have no real central goal beyond FUCK OFF SJWS its only natural that you're going to attract people like Vox Day, but nobody had the guts to tell him to fuck off because he was an enemy of the enemy. Now his name and that embarrassingly pandering logo are going to be what will be associated with this movement. No chance in hell that bigot reputation is going to come undone with him at the table, and thus the infighting will only get worse and worse.
@OwO What's This? is right, the big 2 may not be making money out of this but they've won due to being handed an opponent that is easily disregarded.
@OwO What's This? is right, the big 2 may not be making money out of this but they've won due to being handed an opponent that is easily disregarded.
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I don't know who Vox Day is, but he could be Sam Hyde for all it matters.
The -gate stuff is derived from Watergate as I'm sure most people know, it's meant to refer to a scandal, and we've taken a -gater to mean someone who believes the scandal is legitimate and involves themselves in activism relating to it.
So by what logic does it make sense to try and 'gatekeep' Vox Day when this Comicsgater concept is so broad to begin with? There's no organization, no formal movement, no leader, no clear goals set forward. He meets the basic criteria based on how we've been using these terms for years now. This exact same thing happened with Gamergate so no one should be surprised, ya'll knew this was coming.
The -gate stuff is derived from Watergate as I'm sure most people know, it's meant to refer to a scandal, and we've taken a -gater to mean someone who believes the scandal is legitimate and involves themselves in activism relating to it.
So by what logic does it make sense to try and 'gatekeep' Vox Day when this Comicsgater concept is so broad to begin with? There's no organization, no formal movement, no leader, no clear goals set forward. He meets the basic criteria based on how we've been using these terms for years now. This exact same thing happened with Gamergate so no one should be surprised, ya'll knew this was coming.
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At the end of it all, D&C showed there's an untapped audience out there that the SJWs and their enablers drove away with their :autism:, so those with sense will adopt that model eventually. And when sales figures at the major companies dip too far for it to be profitable , they will look up at him and shout: "Save us! We shouldn't have listened to the woke crowd!"
And yaboi Zack will look down and whisper: "Yeah, it was a bad idea..."
And yaboi Zack will look down and whisper: "Yeah, it was a bad idea..."
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People need to rebrand into "keep your pet politics out of comics" to avoid attracting junk. Jack Chick has been making anti-sjw comics for decades, that doesn't make him the king of ComicsGate.
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Somewhat incorrect. GG, as nebulous as it was, could be seen as having a core goal - there was that whole "ethics in journalism" thing as well the whole "SJWs in gaming" thing, but the biggest thing kicking it off was the scandal. Without the 5 Guys shit, without the GameJournoPros email list, without the 12 GAMERS ARE DEAD articles, it never would have blown up the way it did.
Meanwhile there's no big scandals in CG, there's just a bunch of little petty social media shit and outrage at the big 2 being trash. Right from the start, the entire movement was based around people jumping in and going "Hey, don't buy that SJW shit, give me money instead!"
There's nothing to rally around, no offense to prop up as a slight to fans, just a vague promise of comics that this crowd will like. Its just a lot of flailing in the dark and seeing what they can hit.
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Perhaps it didn't start with a bang, but there were allegations from the start, and then what got it a lot of attention was all the behind the scenes threat and politicking to get people blacklisted from the industry. Also, you're not describing goals, you're describing very broad ideals.
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I suppose so, but those very broad ideals could be reached through action. They weren't butting heads against the entire industry, they were targeting specific sites regarding transparency issues. That's something that if you strip away the whole drama around GG, sounds like a reasonable point. It was also something that eventually happened.
The allegations at the start of CG amounted to nothing in the movement outside of twitter and facebook sperging by people who can't help but spaz out on social media. No changes have been made outside of lining opportunist pockets.
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They always pull out this jargon so that nobody can ever be right about disagreeing with them. Either they're delusional or self-loathing or fake, or all at the same time, even though these things all contradict each other. It's just like cult jargon. They might as well just say they're suppressive persons or some shit.