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Shockingly this doesn't appear to be an isolated phenomenon.
If I ran a comic shop and got stuck with these trash freebies and paid-for junk titles, I would abandon all hope of profiting off them, and sell them in a bundle at the wholesale price. "Buy any two comics off this shelf for only $X, also get a free Iceman."
 
If I ran a comic shop and got stuck with these trash freebies and paid-for junk titles, I would abandon all hope of profiting off them, and sell them in a bundle at the wholesale price. "Buy any two comics off this shelf for only $X, also get a free Iceman."
I'm now imagining a shop owner standing on street corner as a reverse hobo:

"Comic! Free comics! Hey you looked at me - you gotta take this comic!" Followed by him eventually just yelling as he hurls handfuls of them at passerbys.
 
I'm now imagining a shop owner standing on street corner as a reverse hobo:

"Comic! Free comics! Hey you looked at me - you gotta take this comic!" Followed by him eventually just yelling as he hurls handfuls of them at passerbys.
If they're near New York, they could just leave them next to Quesada's car. Let him figure out what to do with them.
 
Oh no. The 90's had a spate of blander replacements. That have thankfully largely vanished into the sands of time. Thunderstrike. X-Man, etc.

You can trace the tradition of "replacement icons" to the 1980s when Jim Rhodes and John Walker took over the roles of Iron Man and Captain America after Tony Stark fell off the wagon and the government took the shield from Steve Rogers. In the case of the latter, the point was to show why it was a bad idea to replace Rogers as John Walker was a violent and mentally unstable reactionary who went on a murderous rampage after terrorists murdered his parents. Rogers reclaimed the mantle and Stark sobered up to don the Silver Centurion armour.

The 90s were a weird time with the aformentioned Eric Masterson, who donned the "mantle" of Thor before becoming Thunderstrike (who died at the end of his series), and then Thor "merged" with Jake Olsen later in the decade. The Fantastic Four received a spinoff in the form of Fantastic Force, which Franklin Richards led as Psi-Lord when he was temporarily aged to his teenage years. Jim Rhodes first donned the War Machine Armour. John Walker reemerged as U.S. Agent. Hell, Ben Reilly returned as the Scarlet Spider and even filled in as Spider-Man. While the quality of the stories was generally bad, though I know Ben Reilly has his fans, Marvel didn't inject ideology into them as they would two decades later.
 
I'm getting some serious Milkshake flashbacks:

At first when i saw this I dismissed it, I didn't think it would trigger that many SJWs:
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https://twitter.com/tfmonkeyyoutube/status/1042171852221763584 https://archive.fo/mi2LB

But I keep underestimating these speds inability to take a fucking joke:

Polygon (http://archive.is/7q64Q):
Captain Marvel’s Brie Larson reimagines superheroes to expose gendered criticism
Stop telling women to smile
By Julia Alexander Sep 23, 2018, 10:50am EDT

Times (http://archive.fo/GTBsq):
Brie Larson Was Told to Smile More As Captain Marvel. She Had the Absolute Best Response.
By MEGAN MCCLUSKEY September 21, 2018

Vice (http://archive.fo/nwe7e):
Brie Larson Was Told to Smile, So She Put Smiles onto Marvel Dudes
The "Captain Marvel" actress responded perfectly to some sexist fan complaints.
By Nicole Clark Sep 20 2018, 8:50pm

Cinema Blend (http://archive.fo/wagg8 ):
Captain Marvel’s Brie Larson Clapped Back At Haters Telling Her To Smile
BY SARAH EL-MAHMOUD 22 HOURS AGO

Insider (https://web.archive.org/web/2018092...r.com/brie-larson-captain-marvel-smile-2018-9):
Brie Larson fought back after being told by fans to "smile more"
Kelli Pate Sep. 21, 2018, 4:00 PM

Comicbook (https://web.archive.org/web/2018092...-marvel-brie-larson-trolls-smiling-photoshop/):

Yahoo (https://archive.fo/o/kEwAH):
A Twitter user pasted a smile on 'Captain Marvel' star Brie Larson — but she had the last laugh
Gwynne Watkins Writer, Yahoo Entertainment September 20, 2018

Entertainment Canada (https://archive.fo/MbBIV):
Brie Larson Has The Best Response To Troll Who Photoshopped Smiles On Captain Marvel
By COREY ATAD. 20 Sep 2018 10:50 AM

Pajiba (https://archive.fo/BBr6X):lo t
Captain Marvel Doesn’t Need To Smile and Neither Does Any Other Woman
By Kayleigh Donaldson | Film | September 19, 2018 |

There’s at least a dozen more articles, all this from just one tweet.
 
You can trace the tradition of "replacement icons" to the 1980s when Jim Rhodes and John Walker took over the roles of Iron Man and Captain America after Tony Stark fell off the wagon and the government took the shield from Steve Rogers. In the case of the latter, the point was to show why it was a bad idea to replace Rogers as John Walker was a violent and mentally unstable reactionary who went on a murderous rampage after terrorists murdered his parents. Rogers reclaimed the mantle and Stark sobered up to don the Silver Centurion armour.

The 90s were a weird time with the aformentioned Eric Masterson, who donned the "mantle" of Thor before becoming Thunderstrike (who died at the end of his series), and then Thor "merged" with Jake Olsen later in the decade. The Fantastic Four received a spinoff in the form of Fantastic Force, which Franklin Richards led as Psi-Lord when he was temporarily aged to his teenage years. Jim Rhodes first donned the War Machine Armour. John Walker reemerged as U.S. Agent. Hell, Ben Reilly returned as the Scarlet Spider and even filled in as Spider-Man. While the quality of the stories was generally bad, though I know Ben Reilly has his fans, Marvel didn't inject ideology into them as they would two decades later.

Yeah but at least in the 80's with the replacements, those were simply part of the ongoing story. We never lost track of Steve Rogers during the John Walker span. And it was obvious a statement about replacing the irreplaceable. Similarly the Iron Man story arc Demon in a Bottle was the culmination of a long running character development. It was logical, made sense, and didn't feel like replacing Tony. Neither felt like a true replacement or a stunt. (And actually most were pretty upset with the hamfisted way Rhodey lost his set of armor after Tony donned his new suit. We liked Rhodey and demanded he continue alongside Tony. Hence War Machine). The replacement arcs in those cases were part and parcel with the story. They were part of the main characters development. It wasn't the same as the later BS.

The real start of the cheesy replacement characters as stunt events I think actually began over in DC. DC Actually had had some minor success replacing their old school icons with more modernized versions a number of years earlier. We know this as the Silver Age of Comics. (Remember Barry Allen and Hal Jordan were the cheesy replacements. Funny how that worked out.) But then they did the Death of Superman stunt story. And followed it up with the Knightfall Batman replacement. And thus began the parade of shit. What's remarkable to me is how few of those 90's characters really lasted. If you actually look at it the only new 90's comic characters to leap into pop culture and have any lasting impact were 90% from the (arguably deranged and immature) mind of Rob Liefeld. (runner up status goes to Kurt Busiek and Mark Bagley who took a pack of D list villains and re-invented them as conflicted anti heroes with new identities in Thunderbolts). I think the only DC 90's characters to have any real staying power were Kyle Raynor and Tim Drake?

edit, and What was it with Marvel and the horrid "xxxxx-Force" titles in the 90's? Yeah changing the New Mutants to X-Force hit the jackpot, but then the stupid started. "Fantastic Force" "Force Works" (Iron Man's "Force" Team. Truly horrid) I remain astonished we didn't see a "Spider-Force"
 
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I think the only DC 90's characters to have any real staying power were Kyle Raynor and Tim Drake?

Not quite true. Conner Kent (Superboy) and John Henry Irons (Steel) became well-loved members of Superman's supporting cast after "Reign of the Supermen" and the former's solo series lasted 100 issues before its cancellation. Additionally, the 90s gave us Bart Allen (Impulse), whose series lasted 89 issues. Mark Waid wrote the first 25 and it is interesting to compare how he wrote a fun teen superhero in the 90s and went on to write the cringe fest that was Champions two decades later. There was even an issue of Impulse where one Bart's friends suffered physical abuse at the hands on his mother. Something a "woke" Waid wouldn't have the balls to write today.

Damn. It is really a sad state of affairs when modern comics make you yearn for these days:
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I'm still a little surprised that Quesada has a job. His mandating that Peter Parker would sell his marriage to the devil in exchange for saving his 142 year old aunt was so utterly insane that I stopped buying Marvel books on the spot. And I know a couple other local people who did the same. That was it. That was just the last straw.

In DC's case it was for generally customer-hostile business decisions. Books of Magic, one of my favorite comic series, now something like twenty years old, still hasn't been collected in its entirety. There's a huge-ass gap in the paperbacks. They collected Hellblazer, but weirdly and out of order for no reason anybody could ever figure out. If you like a series, and sink your money into the trades or hardcover specials, there are good odds that DC will randomly decide to fuck you over and just stop making them before collecting the whole series. Or they'll collect them but print them on shitty yellow paper that won't make it five years.
 
:stress: It's just a bunch of comic nerds, why are you acting like they've literally started mass executing trannies!?
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*EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW* COMIC CREATORS CONTINUE SPEAKING OUT AGAINST #COMICSGATE

James Portis September 23, 2018 No Comments 347 views 2 likes


Comicsgate is a new movement that has stepped into the world of comics in a big way. They boast “membership” numbers in the tens of thousands, have successfully funded several creator-owned titles through platforms like Indigogo and Kickstarter, and have cultivated their own community in the comics world.


The group was formed under a group of, largely, conservative men and women that felt their political positions and opinions were being mocked and “leftist ideals” and politics were being propagandized and pushed on them by certain creators as well as companies like DC and Marvel. Many have referred to this as the “SJWs [Social Justice Warriors] taking over of comics.”

There really is no one moment that can be defined as the definitive start of Comicsgate, but their message is clear: “Keep the leftist politics out of comics.”

However, the movement has become associated with harassment and hate speech exampled in the cases of the harassment of Marsha Cooke (widow of creator Darwyn Cooke) and the hate speech lobbed against Mags Visaggio respectively.

Marginalized creators, liberal women, and “SJWs” are favorite targets of members of Comicsgate that engage in online harassment such as prominent Comicsgate supporter Richard Meyer who once suggested a female member of the comic industry had “sucked her way to the top” and, multiple times, referred to a trans woman as “a man in a wig.”

While many marginalized creators have spoken out against Comicgate for the last year, earlier this month comic industry titans like Scott Snyder, Tom Taylor, Nicola Scott, Jeff Lemire, among others spoke out against the movement called it a “hate group” and claiming there was no room for a movement like this in the comics’ industry.

I believe comics are for everyone.
There is no excuse for harassment.
There is no place for homophobia, transphobia, racism or misogyny in comics criticism.
— Tom Taylor (@TomTaylorMade) August 26, 2018


I believe comics are for everyone.
There is no excuse for harassment.
There is no place for homophobia, transphobia, racism or misogyny in comics criticism.
— Nicola Scott (@NicolaScottArt) August 26, 2018


Lol. Someone just showed me this. I genuinely thought it was already 100% clear I'm against comicsgate. I would have taken my own odds at 3-1.
(Also, put me down for $100 marker on Alan Moore bc hey, why not? ) pic.twitter.com/bCGn4Bsy6N
— Scott Snyder (@Ssnyder1835) September 15, 2018


care about. This might be right, might be wrong. IDK. Sometimes it was advice given by those being attacked. Either way, it's just a stance I've believed in. Things have changed in that past weeks, tho and in case it's unclear where I (and basically everyone I know) stand, I
— Scott Snyder (@Ssnyder1835) September 15, 2018


were (and still are) especially repugnant for their their sexism, racism, homophobia, and transphobia. Me, I'll continue doing what I've done here and use this platform to express enthusiasm for the industry and for the creators and the work that inspires me. But CG was
— Scott Snyder (@Ssnyder1835) September 15, 2018


And now I've blown my fucking Vegas odds.
Sooo..back to #Batmanday?
— Scott Snyder (@Ssnyder1835) September 15, 2018

Legendary comic artist Mike Deodato Jr has quickly become one of the most prominent of Comicsgate’s detractors and has been vocal about his opposition to the movement on platforms like Twitter and Instagram.


It is a rare thing for me to ask for help. I was raised to fight, persevere and, if I fall, to get up and fight again, This time I am going against my instincts to make this call for help: I ask my fellow comic book pros to stand up and speak up against Comicsgate. You will be
— Mike Deodato, Jr. (@mikedeodato) September 20, 2018


close to the overwhelming amount of love you will get in return. And it is the right thing to do.
So, please, help.
— Mike Deodato, Jr. (@mikedeodato) September 20, 2018

Shoot The Breeze Comics was very excited to sit down with Mr. Deodato and talk to him about his opinions on the movement.


You’ve recently been very vocal about the recent movement that has risen up called Comicsgate. In your own words, what do you think this movement is about?

Deadato Jr: First of all, I have to say that I am not the best person to talk about all of this. I live in Brazil, my English is not too good, and I am also not too familiar with the history of social movements in the US neither its politics. My only real good ability is to draw. I don’t have the arguing skills either the intelligence of several other creators that have been battling this movement way before me. That said, I wouldn’t miss the opportunity to speak out against Comicsgate with this interview. The more people know about it, the better. People have to know what they really are: A horde of bigots, misogynists, transphobics, racists, and homophobes whose purpose is to harass comic book creators that oppose their view.

What was your first interaction/when did you become aware of Comicsgate?

Deadato Jr: I have heard the name a couple of times last year but never paid much attention till my friend Jeff Lemire tweeted about it. I have been working with him on a creator-owned for over a year and during this time I learned to respect and like him as a brother, so when I read his words about it, I knew the thing was serious and that I had to help some way. I started retweeting stuff but it was when one of their minions tweeted me insulting Magdalene Visaggio that I started getting more involved. I was so impressed with the intelligence and courage that her and others like Gail Simone, Renfamous – just to mention a few- were dealing in a daily basis with the attacks, that I felt that the least I could do was to lend my voice to spread the word

Many of the movement itself have said they feel comic books have shifted politically to a way they do not wish to remain. What is your opinion of the current political comic book landscape?

Deadato Jr: I think comics as all other art forms reflect the world we live in. The world is changing and so comics. In any case, there are comics for all tastes. Not agreeing with the direction a comic is taking doesn’t give anyone the right to attack their creators. Criticism is valid as long as it isn’t personal or violent.


Do you think the current political standing of comic books has harmed the storytelling?

Deadato Jr: Not at all. We are in a great age for comics. I have been doing comics for the American market since 1991 and I have never seen so many great books being created. The current level of writers and artists is outstanding.

There have been reports that leaders of Comicsgate have verbally harrassed comic creators through social media and through youtube videos. Can you speak on what you’ve heard from your fellow creators?

Deadato Jr: I haven’t heard from them directly but I know their stories through the news and it is revolting to hear what they have been through. This movement has ruined lives, traumatized innocent people. That is something I can’t understand. WHY isn’t the police involved? There is not a law these people are infringing? Why aren’t they in prison? They are hurting innocents, making a profit of it and nothing happens to them? I don’t know American laws but here in Brazil, we have laws against racism that actually works. The leaders of the movement should be held accountable for their crimes.

Despite verbal attacks on creators, Comicsgate has said one of their goals is to promote “organic introduction” to women, people of color, and LGBTQA+ individuals into comic books. How do you feel about this?

Deodato Jr: That is a lie. They are an alt-right group. They want nothing of that sort. The racist and homophobic attacks on social media are enough proof.

Recently we’ve seen reports of Comic Book creators who are pro comicsgate attempting to attend conventions however they have been reported and removed. What is your standing on this practice?

Deadato Jr: I already said loud and clear on Twitter that I would not work with anyone who supported the movement neither would attend a convention where they were invited, so I am very in favor of that.

I’m in too, Mike. You’re the best.
— GAIL SIMONE (@GailSimone) September 18, 2018

Many creators have spoken out and said they will boycott conventions that host Comicsgate supporting creators, how do you feel about this?

Deadato Jr: I am glad more and more creators are standing up against the movement. Comics must be a safe environment for all. There is no place for hatred.

http://archive.fo/JR5M8

@neural you might want to add Deodato to the OP.
 
:stress: It's just a bunch of comic nerds, why are you acting like they've literally started mass executing trannies!?

Apparently saying "your comic sucks" literally causes autistic trannies to die immediately and should be prosecuted as murder.
 
I'm still a little surprised that Quesada has a job. His mandating that Peter Parker would sell his marriage to the devil in exchange for saving his 142 year old aunt was so utterly insane that I stopped buying Marvel books on the spot. And I know a couple other local people who did the same. That was it. That was just the last straw.

In DC's case it was for generally customer-hostile business decisions. Books of Magic, one of my favorite comic series, now something like twenty years old, still hasn't been collected in its entirety. There's a huge-ass gap in the paperbacks. They collected Hellblazer, but weirdly and out of order for no reason anybody could ever figure out. If you like a series, and sink your money into the trades or hardcover specials, there are good odds that DC will randomly decide to fuck you over and just stop making them before collecting the whole series. Or they'll collect them but print them on shitty yellow paper that won't make it five years.

DC's similar Fuck You moment to One More Day was "New 52". "We've just thrown out every story and character you have ever read or collected and are now re-inventing them. But more streamlined." One More Day" had me cancel most of my Marvel books. X-Men get SARS was my final breaking point for Marvel. New 52 had me just walking away from it all. Red Hood and the Outlaws #1 just broke me.
 
:stress: It's just a bunch of comic nerds, why are you acting like they've literally started mass executing trannies!?
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*EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW* COMIC CREATORS CONTINUE SPEAKING OUT AGAINST #COMICSGATE

James Portis September 23, 2018 No Comments 347 views 2 likes


Comicsgate is a new movement that has stepped into the world of comics in a big way. They boast “membership” numbers in the tens of thousands, have successfully funded several creator-owned titles through platforms like Indigogo and Kickstarter, and have cultivated their own community in the comics world.


The group was formed under a group of, largely, conservative men and women that felt their political positions and opinions were being mocked and “leftist ideals” and politics were being propagandized and pushed on them by certain creators as well as companies like DC and Marvel. Many have referred to this as the “SJWs [Social Justice Warriors] taking over of comics.”

There really is no one moment that can be defined as the definitive start of Comicsgate, but their message is clear: “Keep the leftist politics out of comics.”

However, the movement has become associated with harassment and hate speech exampled in the cases of the harassment of Marsha Cooke (widow of creator Darwyn Cooke) and the hate speech lobbed against Mags Visaggio respectively.

Marginalized creators, liberal women, and “SJWs” are favorite targets of members of Comicsgate that engage in online harassment such as prominent Comicsgate supporter Richard Meyer who once suggested a female member of the comic industry had “sucked her way to the top” and, multiple times, referred to a trans woman as “a man in a wig.”

While many marginalized creators have spoken out against Comicgate for the last year, earlier this month comic industry titans like Scott Snyder, Tom Taylor, Nicola Scott, Jeff Lemire, among others spoke out against the movement called it a “hate group” and claiming there was no room for a movement like this in the comics’ industry.

I believe comics are for everyone.
There is no excuse for harassment.
There is no place for homophobia, transphobia, racism or misogyny in comics criticism.
— Tom Taylor (@TomTaylorMade) August 26, 2018


I believe comics are for everyone.
There is no excuse for harassment.
There is no place for homophobia, transphobia, racism or misogyny in comics criticism.
— Nicola Scott (@NicolaScottArt) August 26, 2018


Lol. Someone just showed me this. I genuinely thought it was already 100% clear I'm against comicsgate. I would have taken my own odds at 3-1.
(Also, put me down for $100 marker on Alan Moore bc hey, why not? ) pic.twitter.com/bCGn4Bsy6N
— Scott Snyder (@Ssnyder1835) September 15, 2018


care about. This might be right, might be wrong. IDK. Sometimes it was advice given by those being attacked. Either way, it's just a stance I've believed in. Things have changed in that past weeks, tho and in case it's unclear where I (and basically everyone I know) stand, I
— Scott Snyder (@Ssnyder1835) September 15, 2018


were (and still are) especially repugnant for their their sexism, racism, homophobia, and transphobia. Me, I'll continue doing what I've done here and use this platform to express enthusiasm for the industry and for the creators and the work that inspires me. But CG was
— Scott Snyder (@Ssnyder1835) September 15, 2018


And now I've blown my fucking Vegas odds.
Sooo..back to #Batmanday?
— Scott Snyder (@Ssnyder1835) September 15, 2018

Legendary comic artist Mike Deodato Jr has quickly become one of the most prominent of Comicsgate’s detractors and has been vocal about his opposition to the movement on platforms like Twitter and Instagram.


It is a rare thing for me to ask for help. I was raised to fight, persevere and, if I fall, to get up and fight again, This time I am going against my instincts to make this call for help: I ask my fellow comic book pros to stand up and speak up against Comicsgate. You will be
— Mike Deodato, Jr. (@mikedeodato) September 20, 2018


close to the overwhelming amount of love you will get in return. And it is the right thing to do.
So, please, help.
— Mike Deodato, Jr. (@mikedeodato) September 20, 2018

Shoot The Breeze Comics was very excited to sit down with Mr. Deodato and talk to him about his opinions on the movement.


You’ve recently been very vocal about the recent movement that has risen up called Comicsgate. In your own words, what do you think this movement is about?

Deadato Jr: First of all, I have to say that I am not the best person to talk about all of this. I live in Brazil, my English is not too good, and I am also not too familiar with the history of social movements in the US neither its politics. My only real good ability is to draw. I don’t have the arguing skills either the intelligence of several other creators that have been battling this movement way before me. That said, I wouldn’t miss the opportunity to speak out against Comicsgate with this interview. The more people know about it, the better. People have to know what they really are: A horde of bigots, misogynists, transphobics, racists, and homophobes whose purpose is to harass comic book creators that oppose their view.

What was your first interaction/when did you become aware of Comicsgate?

Deadato Jr: I have heard the name a couple of times last year but never paid much attention till my friend Jeff Lemire tweeted about it. I have been working with him on a creator-owned for over a year and during this time I learned to respect and like him as a brother, so when I read his words about it, I knew the thing was serious and that I had to help some way. I started retweeting stuff but it was when one of their minions tweeted me insulting Magdalene Visaggio that I started getting more involved. I was so impressed with the intelligence and courage that her and others like Gail Simone, Renfamous – just to mention a few- were dealing in a daily basis with the attacks, that I felt that the least I could do was to lend my voice to spread the word

Many of the movement itself have said they feel comic books have shifted politically to a way they do not wish to remain. What is your opinion of the current political comic book landscape?

Deadato Jr: I think comics as all other art forms reflect the world we live in. The world is changing and so comics. In any case, there are comics for all tastes. Not agreeing with the direction a comic is taking doesn’t give anyone the right to attack their creators. Criticism is valid as long as it isn’t personal or violent.


Do you think the current political standing of comic books has harmed the storytelling?

Deadato Jr: Not at all. We are in a great age for comics. I have been doing comics for the American market since 1991 and I have never seen so many great books being created. The current level of writers and artists is outstanding.

There have been reports that leaders of Comicsgate have verbally harrassed comic creators through social media and through youtube videos. Can you speak on what you’ve heard from your fellow creators?

Deadato Jr: I haven’t heard from them directly but I know their stories through the news and it is revolting to hear what they have been through. This movement has ruined lives, traumatized innocent people. That is something I can’t understand. WHY isn’t the police involved? There is not a law these people are infringing? Why aren’t they in prison? They are hurting innocents, making a profit of it and nothing happens to them? I don’t know American laws but here in Brazil, we have laws against racism that actually works. The leaders of the movement should be held accountable for their crimes.

Despite verbal attacks on creators, Comicsgate has said one of their goals is to promote “organic introduction” to women, people of color, and LGBTQA+ individuals into comic books. How do you feel about this?

Deodato Jr: That is a lie. They are an alt-right group. They want nothing of that sort. The racist and homophobic attacks on social media are enough proof.

Recently we’ve seen reports of Comic Book creators who are pro comicsgate attempting to attend conventions however they have been reported and removed. What is your standing on this practice?

Deadato Jr: I already said loud and clear on Twitter that I would not work with anyone who supported the movement neither would attend a convention where they were invited, so I am very in favor of that.

I’m in too, Mike. You’re the best.
— GAIL SIMONE (@GailSimone) September 18, 2018

Many creators have spoken out and said they will boycott conventions that host Comicsgate supporting creators, how do you feel about this?

Deadato Jr: I am glad more and more creators are standing up against the movement. Comics must be a safe environment for all. There is no place for hatred.

http://archive.fo/JR5M8

@neural you might want to add Deodato to the OP.

Go on, Don Quixote. Keep chasing that windmill.
 
DC's similar Fuck You moment to One More Day was "New 52". "We've just thrown out every story and character you have ever read or collected and are now re-inventing them. But more streamlined.
I personally began to like the New 52 initiative, but then DC Rebirth came and solved all of that, so...
 
:stress: It's just a bunch of comic nerds, why are you acting like they've literally started mass executing trannies!?
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@neural you might want to add Deodato to the OP.

This right here illustrates the one thing that I can never understand about these lily white raving champions of oppresed people. They supposedly champion "Trans Acceptance". But they literally do it by making every normies only contact with or interaction regarding a Trans person so tyranically oppresive and painful. So personally traumatic to the normies that they are not simply bigoted towards the troons. They now actively loathe them, for good reason. Prior to the SJW's getting involved the normies may have viewed Trannies as weird, bizare and unatural. After contact with them and their SJW minions the Normies now feel that they are in fact demonic. That maybe just maybe the crazed islamists might have a point with the "free flying lessons to all troons! Over here at the tallest building in town!" approach to acceptance. If you are trying to gain acceptance for a population group, Championing Mags Vissagio and Michele Perez is NOT the way to go about it. Criminalizing insulting a trans person is not a good approach. Threatening peoples jobs and livelihoods and terrorizing their families sure as fuck is a piss poor approach.

Because lets be frank here. Mags has almost certainly made far far more threats of death and violence than Mags has received.
 
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