#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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Least Concern said:
Ya Boi, literal Nazi, praises Archie 1941, despite it having been co-written by Mark Waid. His lawyer probably would have preferred he didn't cover anything involving Waid, but… Interesting premise; Archie signs up for the military during WWII goes off to fight Nazi-adjacent Vichy France in northern Africa.

(TW: No Luna)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=w5oTHpA6FiI
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How many Muslim transgendered people with bright futures in the industry and in world history met their untimely demise thanks to this video? Representation matters, people.
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
I keep trying to tell people this, but God knows they're not listening...

Then again, comics haven't been made for children for years.
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Maybe they ought to get back to that, to some extent, and maybe in another format.

Because "people who are going to be dead soon" is not a healthy market to be catering to, and only slightly better than "fucking bums who never buy anything that isn't a dildo or hair dye."
 
AnOminous said:
Maybe they ought to get back to that, to some extent, and maybe in another format.

Because "people who are going to be dead soon" is not a healthy market to be catering to, and only slightly better than "fucking bums who never buy anything that isn't a dildo or hair dye."
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The big two do produce kids' comics, but they don't do a lot of them. DC used to have a fine kids' line in the last decade, now I don't think they have anything.

It's the minor publishers that really do stuff for the kids in large amounts - Boom Studios does some, IDW too, and so did Bongo Comics before they shut down.

But when you've been marketing to middle-aged nerds for years, you kind of forget how to market to anyone else, so it's no wonder the kids can't get into comics.
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
But when you've been marketing to middle-aged nerds for years, you kind of forget how to market to anyone else, so it's no wonder the kids can't get into comics.
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Changing to marketing to troons wasn't exactly a great idea either.
 
AnOminous said:
Maybe they ought to get back to that, to some extent, and maybe in another format.

Because "people who are going to be dead soon" is not a healthy market to be catering to, and only slightly better than "fucking bums who never buy anything that isn't a dildo or hair dye."
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I agree but what's the medium to keep the IP alive?

Like a cinematic universe? Sure it's making billions total now, bit that train is running out of tracks.

There's only a few more really good titles left to bring into the MCU at this point. (X-Men, ff, ?) DC is even more fucked since they've botched their two traditional rainmakers beyond anyone's imagination. No one wants to see Thor 10: Loki gets Alzheimer's.

I mean I guess they could keep rebooting forver, and pray stuff like wonder woman and Iron Man don't get fucked like Ghost Rider and Superman.

What's left? Spawn is never going to go ham at the box office

Marvel and Netflix going through some kind of custody fight with the defenders shows is going to kill their value

DC probably has the right idea with the arrowverse stuff on CW because those titles aren't the best suited for motion pictures (flash is to goddamn confuding and arrow will look like a shitty Batman). I can't speak to the streaming stuff.

Then again maybe it's not a terrible thing if the big boys just fade away. It's not like there won't be someone else dreaming up heroes and villains.
 
Even when comics are made FOR children, they don’t tend to stick around for long unless they belong to Disney or a major publisher. Casing point, Dynamite’s Rainbow Brite. The Clownfish TV couple have been reviewing the current ongoing only to find out that while searching on news of the delayed third issue of Rainbow Brite, that the comic was cancelled.
For those interested in the review of the previous issues:
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AnOminous said:
Because "people who are going to be dead soon" is not a healthy market to be catering to, and only slightly better than "fucking bums who never buy anything that isn't a dildo or hair dye."
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It’s almost like pissing off the people that can/have actually reproduced was a bad idea.
 
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damian said:
It’s almost like pissing off the people that can/have actually reproduced was a bad idea.
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I don't know if anyone else agrees with this but I feel there's a bit of people in the media taking media cliches a bit too seriously. If you notice with a lot of these spergs, they visualize the comicbook audience as 50 something morbidly obese losers still living at home, probably extremely balding and the most disgusting case of acme you can imagine. It's just a really old stereotype.
 
damian said:
Even when comics are made FOR children, they don’t tend to stick around for long unless they belong to Disney or a major publisher.
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I'd argue that many of the current writers have no fucking clue on what age range they are supposed to be targeting with their books and have no clue on how to write that range. I'd also guess that any kids currently reading comics are some of those that are generally interested in reading and as a result are at a higher reading level than their peers. From what I've seen however, books that should be targeting the adolescent male range (personally most of capes should be in this range) constantly break down into everybody talking and acting like a 5-8 year olds and as Ya Boi puts it 'being all silly-bwilly'. I know that as a kid described above I'd drop that material like a hot sack of shit and never pick it back up.

RockVolnutt said:
I don't know if anyone else agrees with this but I feel there's a bit of people in the media taking media cliches a bit too seriously. If you notice with a lot of these spergs, they visualize the comicbook audience as 50 something morbidly obese losers still living at home, probably extremely balding and the most disgusting case of acme you can imagine. It's just a really old stereotype.
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Same with games, if the customer doesn't like your product slander them with an 80-90s stereotype, nevermind that the people who where these stereotypes are now 30-40 years older and are now your biggest customer base with good disposable incomes due to being nerds back in the day.

Also after seeing profile pictures of many of the REEEE-ers i think a lot of it boils down to projection too.
 
Saw this on Twitter. Don't know the provenance.
Some Hulk Bullshit.jpg


I don't know who the woman is. But god is her argument terrible - not in the least because they have shot Hulk. Many, many times. Most of the time, it makes him angry. Once, in Civil War 2, it killed him (I think).

But no. Have to make a point about sexism. Don't let those pesky facts in the way.
 
Water-T said:
Ren is a bitter cunt that just needs someone to hate. She used to hate gay people until it because socially unfeasible for her, so now her targets are guys who make comics she doesn't like. If Nazis actually took over America like she keeps rambling about, a week later she'd be all over Twitter about how much she hates Jews.
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I wonder if Ren has a KF account.
 
Next Task said:
Saw this on Twitter. Don't know the provenance. View attachment 633428

I don't know who the woman is. But god is her argument terrible - not in the least because they have shot Hulk. Many, many times. Most of the time, it makes him angry. Once, in Civil War 2, it killed him (I think).

But no. Have to make a point about sexism. Don't let those pesky facts in the way.
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It's from Immortal Hulk #11. The funny thing is the writer seems to have missed the point (or maybe it's deliberate for the character; the book has actually been pretty well written so far so it might be he's setting this strawman up to be punched).

Hulk isn't 'just some white guy'. He's a walking natural disaster. People have tried to stop him one way or another, and occasionally succeeded -- temporarily. But when you get down to brass tacks, the normal rules simply can't apply. It's like trying to file litigation against an earthquake.

Worse, of course, is the point that Bruce Banner is said to not wholly be in control of things when the Hulk is in play. So how do you square punishing the Hulk when Dr. Banner will also suffer it (even when he agrees to it!)?

And of course, my reaction, which was, 'Lady, you do realize Banner got one of his friends to put a special Hulk-killing arrow into his head to try and end him, right?'
 
Capsaicin Addict said:
It's from Immortal Hulk #11. The funny thing is the writer seems to have missed the point (or maybe it's deliberate for the character; the book has actually been pretty well written so far so it might be he's setting this strawman up to be punched).

Hulk isn't 'just some white guy'. He's a walking natural disaster. People have tried to stop him one way or another, and occasionally succeeded -- temporarily. But when you get down to brass tacks, the normal rules simply can't apply. It's like trying to file litigation against an earthquake.

Worse, of course, is the point that Bruce Banner is said to not wholly be in control of things when the Hulk is in play. So how do you square punishing the Hulk when Dr. Banner will also suffer it (even when he agrees to it!)?

And of course, my reaction, which was, 'Lady, you do realize Banner got one of his friends to put a special Hulk-killing arrow into his head to try and end him, right?'
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Also the "Hulkbuster" armor that Tony Stark devised, not for "if" the Hulk became a problem, but for the "when".
 
Something else too that the dumb chucklehead who screencapped those panels left out.

Hulk's not saying 'good, I like that' to her line of reasoning. He's talking about how he likes her anger and how she's not hiding it.

Lady, if the Hulk says he likes how you're expressing anger? Might be time to step back and take a deep breath.
 
damian said:
Even when comics are made FOR children, they don’t tend to stick around for long unless they belong to Disney or a major publisher. Casing point, Dynamite’s Rainbow Brite. The Clownfish TV couple have been reviewing the current ongoing only to find out that while searching on news of the delayed third issue of Rainbow Brite, that the comic was cancelled.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MgVbHz7vDkwFor those interested in the review of the previous issues:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Uq54K9Ohteshttps://youtube.com/watch?v=Zzrd8ohZhIsEDIT:

It’s almost like pissing off the people that can/have actually reproduced was a bad idea.
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Cringy thumbnails if accurate. "Let's try to make an epic LOTR-style slow burn saga out of this kids IP, take our time introducing elements and... oh."
 
Capsaicin Addict said:
Something else too that the dumb chucklehead who screencapped those panels left out.

Hulk's not saying 'good, I like that' to her line of reasoning. He's talking about how he likes her anger and how she's not hiding it.

Lady, if the Hulk says he likes how you're expressing anger? Might be time to step back and take a deep breath.
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Darn, I liked the implication that Hulk is racist and saying that white men being catered to is “good.” That was funny to me.
 
Rebis said:
Darn, I liked the implication that Hulk is racist and saying that white men being catered to is “good.” That was funny to me.
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The Hulk is green, though.
 
Next Task said:
Saw this on Twitter. Don't know the provenance. View attachment 633428

I don't know who the woman is. But god is her argument terrible - not in the least because they have shot Hulk. Many, many times. Most of the time, it makes him angry. Once, in Civil War 2, it killed him (I think).

But no. Have to make a point about sexism. Don't let those pesky facts in the way.
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Oh yeah, apparently Ian Miles took that page out of context and had the people in CG that were reading that series tell him he was wrong. Apparently within context, the lady is a crazy person who just looks for a reason to be angry no matter how ill informed or wrong she is. The Hulk liking her isn’t supposed to look heroic, it’s supposed to be worrying. The crazy lady want to have the Hulk’s powers because she wants power and has a ton of rage that has no target. Honestly she sounds like a perfect representation of an SJW.
 
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