#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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One Man Bland said:
Honestly having such hatred for one specific character to the point of buying and destroying their merch IS a pretty spergy thing to do, but I wouldn't call it behavior that needs some long form explanation outside of "did you spend actual money on this?" And even that's kinda moot considering the success of his crowdfunding.
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You buy that shit, you are giving Disney money to keep going on with that shit.
 
Seriously? Are they missing the whooe point of fucking Apokolips?

One of the most powerful Apokilips stories to me is in Superman: TAS. Clark defeats Darkseid in front of the people of Apokolips, and tells them they’re finally free of the overlord that’s been oppressing them for so many years? And what do the people do? They cry out and carry Darkseid off so they can nurse him back to full health.

The scary thing about Darkseid is that he’s bent a whole civilization around his will. The Female Furies aren’t 2nd-citizens; everybody but Darkseid is. It’s a whole planet jockeying for rank so they can be in the favor of this one guy. It’s scary to the reader because to them, the idea of any other kind of life is unimaginable. It’s scary because it’s so foreign to the way we think, and because this guy, this symbol of ever-present lurking evil can and will do this to the rest of the universe if he’s unopposed.

I can already tell you this is bullshit. The whole narrative of Apokolips is nothing but oppression, so you can’t really cast the Female Furies as more oppressed than everybody else without changing what made the story good in the first place.
 
Stab You in the Back said:
A quick note to comic book writers: you can't subvert something that doesn't exist. Every writer want to do their edgy subversion of Captain America's patriotic image, but Captain America hasn't been written as a patriotic hero in years.
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Subversion is only effective as a storytelling device if it's aimed at those who hold power in society. These writers fail to recognize that their side is the one that holds hegemony over the industry as it is and I would posit popular culture at large. It would be like saying mocking Communists during the Red Scare was edgy.
 
Stab You in the Back said:
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Yes, I'm sure turning Darkseid into a horny old man who just wanted some of that sweet Granny puss is true to Kirby's vision, you fucking clown. Darkseid is supposed to represent a kind of existential evil that was based on the mythological stories Kirby was inspired by. He's not sitting on Apokalypse drinking cognac out of a snifter and hitting on the secretary like a bad caricature of a 60s businessman.
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What threads did you want to pick up to bring into Female Furies?

Castellucci: When you’re reading Kirby’s version, you really see how the Female Furies are treated as second class citizens. Even though they are very important and vital and Granny is really important. I mean, there’s a reason why Barda leaves.
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Holy shit, how pants on head exceptional do you have to be to say the Furries are second class citizens? They're Darkseid's elite guard, they are given better treatment than 99% of Apokalypse's population. Did this guy actually read Kirby's stories, actually did he read anything with Darkseid?
..when you dig deeper and you start to piece together all the things with the Female Furies, you really see that Granny Goodness, while she’s in the inner circle, she’s on the outside. And she’s in charge of the orphanage, which is woman’s work. She has this female fighting force, but [when] you see a lot of the other guards or arrow troopers or whatever talk to Barda or Guillotina or Lashina, it’s very misogynist. And I don’t think that that’s Kirby being misogynist, that’s a reflection of the time and also of the brutality of that world, that everything is pushed to 100.
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OMG, THE VILLAINS ARE BAD PEOPLE!:
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I stopped reading at 1st question, I'm just going to guess that he's writing Trumpseid.
 
I have got to wonder why Darkseid is dicking around in the DC multiverse looking for the Anti-Life Equation when you can find it at any university gender/queer/black studies department.
 
Rebis said:
The scary thing about Darkseid is that he’s bent a whole civilization around his will. The Female Furies aren’t 2nd-citizens; everybody but Darkseid is. It’s a whole planet jockeying for rank so they can be in the favor of this one guy. It’s scary to the reader because to them, the idea of any other kind of life is unimaginable. It’s scary because it’s so foreign to the way we think, and because this guy, this symbol of ever-present lurking evil can and will do this to the rest of the universe if he’s unopposed.
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The scary thing about Darkseid isn't that he bent some alien civilization to his will, but that we've seen human leaders bend their "enlightened" cultures in a similar way. One of the few differences is that Darkseid doesn't have to place a call or send a memo to an underling to make people disappear. Just fire off an Omega Beam zap or two, and the problems go away.

I'd say the worst part is that he won't be given the chance to remake the universe by his will alone, but by the will of the multitudes that will love him for it.

Judging by "Shade: The Changing Girl", it may be too much to expect that the reason why the Furies have to be redefined as specially "oppressed" is to keep Castellucci's friends from realizing that Darkseid's Apokalips is as much an allegory about the communist state as it is anything else.
 
Stab You in the Back said:
Castellucci: When you’re reading Kirby’s version, you really see how the Female Furies are treated as second class citizens. Even though they are very important and vital and Granny is really important. I mean, there’s a reason why Barda leaves.
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"Big Barda only opposed Darkseid because she wasn't given enough privileges!"
I don't even know who this reflects worse on, the author or her version of the character.
 
Intelligent Calcium said:
"Big Barda only opposed Darkseid because she wasn't given enough privileges!"
I don't even know who this reflects worse on, the author or her version of the character.
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A woman named Cecil......yeah, kinda what I expected:
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Grimm said:
Seems like people like SJW Spider-Man care way more about the way fictional female characters are being treated than actual real life women.
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He may as well bitch about anyone making sexy fan art of fictional live action characters. Gotta find a way to bitch about that EVS guy and what better way than to post on how evil some drawing is while bringing up an actress that had to put up with some shit months ago.

AnOminous said:
Ren just has no life. I have no idea about the other but no reason not to assume it's just the same. They're just really really into anti-CG.
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Being anti-CG pretty much gets them attention and likes. And what better way than to simply try and stand on some soapbox where you call your naysayers angry virgin neckbeards from 4Chan and the like.

Elwood P. Dowd said:
https://twitter.com/EthanVanSciver/status/1091709339625287680
http://archive.li/cpx2v

https://youtube.com/watch?v=yhZNG2w9ZVM
This should be interesting. :story:
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One can already assume it's all gonna be a circlejerk about autistic screeching in comics being some full on attempt to keep out the minorities while sperging hard about that damn dirty EVS. One can expect ass kissing comments and shit posting comments.
 
One Man Bland said:
Honestly having such hatred for one specific character to the point of buying and destroying their merch IS a pretty spergy thing to do, but I wouldn't call it behavior that needs some long form explanation outside of "did you spend actual money on this?" And even that's kinda moot considering the success of his crowdfunding.

Also maybe it's just because I'm not much of a Star Wars sperg, but I really don't get some of the hate Rose gets anyways. Her overall appearance in the film is kinda dumpy I guess, but there's way more annoying and/or story-breaking characters in that film alone. She's not like Rey where previously established lore gets re-written just to make her extra special, or that purple haired commander chick who causes like 85% of the problems.
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It's very easy as a knee jerk reaction to outright hate the Rose Tico character (see hours worth of YouTube essays for reasons) and EVS was a part of this bandwagon at the beginning. However after letting it stew in your brain for a while it's very easy to see that all of the problems with TLJ comes down to the writer/director Rian Johnson. This is why the hate -> love transformation meme occurred on his channel, because you can't blame the character / actress as she was given nothing good to work with. Instead you blame the idiot who made the character and the dumb plot points involving said character.

The hate -> love transformation is also good business sense for Ethan as he gets lots of shekels due to the meme. As an example his livestream chat tipped a bartender ~$150 in about 1min after they made a 'Rose Tico' drink and this number would have increased more, but Ethan called it and stopped the stream. Now think about the 'Tico' income he receives over months, minus the few cheap/discounted SW garbage that he buys to keep the meme rolling.

Steamboat_Bill said:
You buy that shit, you are giving Disney money to keep going on with that shit.
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Yes and no. Through licensing Disney already has their money before any toy is made. EVS buying toys on discount and reviewing them to 30-50k people per review hurts Disney more than him buying 1k worth of discounted toys.

While saying that, i can't disagree with your points.

Back to CG, EVS seems annoyed with this Kevin Logan character
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This is amusing, but at the same time, EVS is being kind of cringey with this. I'm not following this close, but it seems like this is the same thing Rackets does, generally. If one doesn't want to debate, he has one person on and then later he has on the other for their side of the story. He did the same thing with Mindy Wheeler. Logan is clearly being exploitative using Ethan's name, though. He has like 10,000 subs. That's nothing compared to Ethan. I'm sure the chat will BTFO Logan and Ren pretty thoroughly. Ethan should just sit back and laugh instead of being so thirsty to talk to her. He should stream snipe it and make money off her.
 
yeah, I think EVS could do a live stream at the same the time and have a slew of guests on his stream.
And maybe donate the stream money to a charity

and at first I thought Ren was trans, MTF.
Cause she has a odd looking nose , almost like a guy and she almost looked passable to looking like a woman
And also how nutty SJW are with pronouns and what they identify as. So, for a while I thought Ren was trans
but then I found out she was born female and identifies as female.
So, good for her
 
Kidhero99 said:
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/42878/captain-america-captain-nothing-new-sjw-themed-jacob-airey



Anyone hyped for the "America Sucks Ass" Arc or what?
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Not me.

This is disgusting and stupid.
Kidhero99 said:
https://twitter.com/ComicPerch/status/1091196474975612928


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How will you PR spin this oversight Mr.Queso?:thinking:
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They also forgot Genis-Vell and Khn'nr.
Stab You in the Back said:
https://archive.fo/8RYUq



Yes, I'm sure turning Darkseid into a horny old man who just wanted some of that sweet Granny puss is true to Kirby's vision, you fucking clown. Darkseid is supposed to represent a kind of existential evil that was based on the mythological stories Kirby was inspired by. He's not sitting on Apokalypse drinking cognac out of a snifter and hitting on the secretary like a bad caricature of a 60s businessman.
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What are the current standards for being hired to write comics?

I might as well crack my teeth at it, since they're apparently so low.
damian said:
I stopped reading at 1st question, I'm just going to guess that he's writing Trumpseid.
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"He" is a she.

She, Cecil Castellucci, is also a no name novelist.
 
EVS is live now talking about the Ren interview. He said he plans to stream snipe.

Apparently Logan is already blocking people in his chat.

Kwanza in Logan's chat
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