#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Detrogen]

In a video today, EVS finally started working on his Jawbreakers cover (after having the breakdown for like three weeks). He finished part of it and promptly took a nap.

Holy shit. This was a month ago and EVS is just now getting around to drawing the rest of the cover for Jawbreakers.

 

[UnderwaterOlympics]

Holy shit. This was a month ago and EVS is just now getting around to drawing the rest of the cover for Jawbreakers.

Zack says he gave Ethan all the time he needs for the cover and that Ethan isn't holding up anything.

 

[Water-T]

She is credited with the current direction of Marvel as a 'lifestyle brand' and the massive amounts of exceptionalism on their youtube channel as well admitting to bringing out Stan Lee in a video statement to shield the milkshake girls from criticism for how they're handling things, all the while he was being absused by his caretakers and they didn't do shit about it once his role was over.

I think that was the worst part of all: trotting out a legend like Stan, "Weekend at Bernie's" -ing him, then rolling him back into the arms of his abusers without a second thought.

They didn't give a shit about his welfare until he could be used as a useful mouthpiece, and then forgotten about again once his usefulness was over. It wouldn't have fucking killed them to have someone at Marvel that he knew and trusted to do a welfare check on him on a regular basis.

 

[Detrogen]

Zack says he gave Ethan all the time he needs for the cover and that Ethan isn't holding up anything.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iQPVsdhN9wQ

I appreciate Zack’s faith, but thus far “all the time he needs” might be giving EVS a little too much slack. I think it’s a bit unwise.

 

[CheezzyMach]

So Kevin Feige will soon be in control of ALL of Marvel

Comicsgate on suicide watch?

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

So Kevin Feige will soon be in control of ALL of Marvel

Comicsgate on suicide watch?

While @FROG worked for DC he can let me know if my understanding is off base

Marvel Studios is/was Independent of Marvel Entertainment [Which was/is its parent company]

As CCO of Marvel Entertainment Kevin will be streamlining the Marvel Animation, TV, and Movies to one set of palates. [IIRC Video games are in his technical mandate as well]. He will be directly reporting to Marvel and Disney about the creative agenda

Joey Q took a big L and got demoted. He still reports to Marvel Management about creative for Publishing and Marvel Management handles other licensing separately

Joey Q, CC, and a lot of the other tumors in the management of Marvel Publishing all have a ticking clock. Once Kevin streamlines the creative for the other divisions [and has it all making top money]....Why have a Direct report and a half for publishing when they could report to kevin. So like 2-3 years [maybe 4]. As that clock ticks down Kevin may put some of his people into Publishing management.

So in 5ish years we could see the end of Woke Marvel under the rulership of Kevin Feige as he unites the infinity stones of Marvel divisions

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

So in 5ish years we could see the end of Woke Marvel under the rulership of Kevin Feige as he unites the infinity stones of Marvel divisions

Or it gets worse. Remember that the Captain Marvel movie happened under Fiege's watch.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Or it gets worse. Remember that the Captain Marvel movie happened under Fiege's watch.

And that happened [In part] because Feige is moving some of the cancer into the movie division to be producers with little [to no] actual authority

Kevin Feige now in charge of Marvel TV, Future of Dardevil and other cancelled Netflix shows

On October 15th, Deadline Hollywood broke the scoop that Kevin Feige has been promoted even higher up at Marvel, as he now holds the title Marvel Chief Creat...

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[TheLaughingMan]

Hopefully putting this in the right place. Doing this for a friend. Also kind of laughing now because since the posting of this video, @FROG is now live streaming about it. I think someone got butt hurt. LOL

Cyberfrog worth less than Jawbreakers or Graveyard Shift on eBay

Of the three major Comicsgate books (Cyberfrog, Graveyard Shift, and Jawbreakers) Cyberfrog is currently available for the lowest prices on eBay. Multiple co...

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[Done]

@Done I think the OP needs to be updated.

Shoot me a PM with your proposed fixes and I'll immediately add them in.

This OP was originally done with less then 2 hours of espresso-fueled research lol.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Hopefully putting this in the right place. Doing this for a friend. Also kind of laughing now because since the posting of this video, @FROG is now live streaming about it. I think someone got butt hurt. LOL

Cyberfrog worth less than Jawbreakers or Graveyard Shift on eBay

Of the three major Comicsgate books (Cyberfrog, Graveyard Shift, and Jawbreakers) Cyberfrog is currently available for the lowest prices on eBay. Multiple co...

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You mean a book thats done 4 campaigns [thus having more copies in the market] is worth less then books that did 1 or 2 [Less in the market]

I am shocked at how Supply and Demand works

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Holy shit. This was a month ago and EVS is just now getting around to drawing the rest of the cover for Jawbreakers.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=WGBu4zfMY4Q

For all we know, he recorded this a month ago and uploaded it only this week. @FROG can correct us if we're wrong.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

You mean a book thats done 4 campaigns [thus having more copies in the market] is worth less then books that did 1 or 2 [Less in the market]

I am shocked at how Supply and Demand works

Not only that, but Ethan is currently selling the line art variants for $25 ($10 less than the original three campaigns) and has promised to sell whatever's left over once all four campaigns have been fulfilled.

So yeah, why would someone buy Cyberfrog off ebay when the damn comic is still in print?

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Not only that, but Ethan is currently selling the line art variants for $25 ($10 less than the original three campaigns) and has promised to sell whatever's left over once all four campaigns have been fulfilled.

So yeah, why would someone buy Cyberfrog off ebay when the damn comic is still in print?

Also @FROG

What other campaigns do [I cant attest if it has worked for others] They sell the book when they sell the next part of the series and do it as a upsell.

An upsell thats nearly pure profit for you

 

[Haramburger]

So Kevin Feige will soon be in control of ALL of Marvel

Comicsgate on suicide watch?

He's had his hands in Marvel for a long time. Maybe you're confusing his gay last name with Paul Feig, the soyboy who directed the genderswapped Ghostbusters 2016?

Spoiler

Year	Title	Producer	Executive Producer	Notes
2000	X-Men	Associate	No
2002	Spider-Man	Associate	No
2003	Daredevil	Co-producer	No
X2	Co-producer	No
Hulk	No	Yes
2004	The Punisher	No	Yes
Spider-Man 2	No	Yes
2005	Elektra	Co-producer	No
Man-Thing	No	Yes
Fantastic Four	No	Yes
2006	X-Men: The Last Stand	No	Yes
2007	Spider-Man 3	No	Yes
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer	No	Yes
2008	Iron Man	Yes	No	Co-produced with Avi Arad
The Incredible Hulk	Yes	No	Co-produced with Avi Arad and Gale Anne Hurd
Next Avengers: Heroes of Tomorrow	No	Yes	Animated direct-to-video film
Punisher: War Zone	No	Yes
2009	Hulk Versus	No	Yes	Animated direct-to-video film
2010	Iron Man 2	Yes	No
2011	Thor	Yes	No
Thor: Tales of Asgard	No	Yes	Animated direct-to-video film
Captain America: The First Avenger	Yes	No
2012	The Avengers	Yes	No
The Amazing Spider-Man	No	Yes
2013	Iron Man 3	Yes	No
Thor: The Dark World	Yes	No
2014	Captain America: The Winter Soldier	Yes	No
Guardians of the Galaxy	Yes	No
2015	Avengers: Age of Ultron	Yes	No
Ant-Man	Yes	No
2016	Captain America: Civil War	Yes	No
Doctor Strange	Yes	No
2017	Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2	Yes	No
Spider-Man: Homecoming	Yes	No	Co-produced with Amy Pascal
Thor: Ragnarok	Yes	No
2018	Black Panther	Yes	No
Avengers: Infinity War	Yes	No
Ant-Man and the Wasp	Yes	No	Co-produced with Stephen Broussard
2019	Captain Marvel	Yes	No
Avengers: Endgame	Yes	No
Spider-Man: Far From Home	Yes	No	Co-produced with Amy Pascal
2020	Black Widow	Yes	No	Post-production
The Eternals	Yes	No	Filming

 

[Detrogen]

Not only that, but Ethan is currently selling the line art variants for $25 ($10 less than the original three campaigns) and has promised to sell whatever's left over once all four campaigns have been fulfilled.

So yeah, why would someone buy Cyberfrog off ebay when the damn comic is still in print?

I checked the original campaign. The current lineart campaign and original both sold for 25$ with the price rising to 35$ once shipping was added.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

I checked the original campaign. The current lineart campaign and original both sold for 25$ with the price rising to 35$ once shipping was added.

I didn't see any shipping cost for the line-art campaign, but I also didn't fill out an order to completion. Thanks.

 

[FROG]

So Kevin Feige will soon be in control of ALL of Marvel

Comicsgate on suicide watch?

No, we like Joe Quesada's demotion.

You mean a book thats done 4 campaigns [thus having more copies in the market] is worth less then books that did 1 or 2 [Less in the market]

I am shocked at how Supply and Demand works

Just barely! Pocket Pussy's video inspired me to look into eBay sales of ComicsGate books on the secondary market, and it's true that CYBERFROG is selling for the least of BIGFOOT BILL, GRAVEYARD SHIFT and JAWBREAKERS, but just by pennies.

Our $25 comics are selling for about $60 easily on eBay.

But yeah, the books with smaller print runs are selling for slightly more.

For all we know, he recorded this a month ago and uploaded it only this week. @FROG can correct us if we're wrong.

That's right.

Not only that, but Ethan is currently selling the line art variants for $25 ($10 less than the original three campaigns) and has promised to sell whatever's left over once all four campaigns have been fulfilled.

So yeah, why would someone buy Cyberfrog off ebay when the damn comic is still in print?

The line art variants are the same amount as the first two campaigns. They've all been $25 plus $10 shipping.

Why would someone buy it off eBay? To get it the next day, maybe. A one-to-one sales transaction is much quicker than fulfillment of 18,000 comics.

Also @FROG

What other campaigns do [I cant attest if it has worked for others] They sell the book when they sell the next part of the series and do it as a upsell.

An upsell thats nearly pure profit for you

Yeah, I'm thinking about that. Here are the three options I'm considering for CYBERFROG 2:

1. Upsell remainder of BLOODHONEY chromium

2. Create the Line Art Interiors oversized edition of BLOODHONEY as a separate perk

3. Offer BLOODHONEY and CYBERFROG 2 as a combined trade paperback option, like Robert Kirkman would do for WALKING DEAD.

The problem is finding the most exciting (for customers) and profitable (for me) way of getting newcomers the first book. I haven't decided what I'll do yet.

I checked the original campaign. The current lineart campaign and original both sold for 25$ with the price rising to 35$ once shipping was added.

Correct.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Just barely! Pocket Pussy's video inspired me to look into eBay sales of ComicsGate books on the secondary market, and it's true that CYBERFROG is selling for the least of BIGFOOT BILL, GRAVEYARD SHIFT and JAWBREAKERS, but just by pennies.

Our $25 comics are selling for about $60 easily on eBay.

But yeah, the books with smaller print runs are selling for slightly more.


The line art variants are the same amount as the first two campaigns. They've all been $25 plus $10 shipping.

Why would someone buy it off eBay? To get it the next day?

Yeah but if you figure 25 for the original cost of the book 10 for SH (I don't remember what your shipping and handling was i think it was 10), another 10 for them to ship it from point a to point b (the new buyer) thats a 1/11th profit margin. or 5 dollars.

also was I right about Joe and the Editors who don't edit being on a clock for Feige to streamline Marvel Entertainment creative under one vision @FROG ? ((in your opinion who has lived in those ecosystems))

 

[FROG]

Yeah but if you figure 25 for the original cost of the book 10 for SH (I don't remember what your shipping and handling was i think it was 10), another 10 for them to ship it from point a to point b (the new buyer) thats a 1/11th profit margin. or 5 dollars.

also was I right about Joe and the Editors who don't edit being on a clock for Feige to streamline Marvel Entertainment creative under one vision @FROG ? ((in your opinion who has lived in those ecosystems))

The eBay seller will add his own shipping costs to the auction. So that will be negligible.

Also, I'm more interested in seeing what people are willing to PAY for ComicsGate books. Less interested in what the reseller might earn, but that's cool too.

Joe Q's ultimate fate is up in the air. We saw WB take a hatchet to Diane Nelson and Geoff Johns last year, and Disney took out Axel Alonso pretty quickly, so I wouldn't be surprised about any outcome at this point.