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Puddleduck said:
Blake Northcott has deleted her twitter argument with Stephanie Cooke, was it ever screenshotted or put into a video? I'd be interested to re-read it tbh
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Blake has been virtue signalling and kissing Heather antos's ass lately and really going after the SJW audience. Some sperg has made a bunch of "Blake northcott betrayed comicsgate" threads that are now in spergatory im sure they have the convo saved somewhere.
 
Analog Devolved said:
Blake has been virtue signalling and kissing Heather antos's ass lately and really going after the SJW audience. Some sperg has made a bunch of "Blake northcott betrayed comicsgate" threads that are now in spergatory im sure they have the convo saved somewhere.
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Well frankly, I don't particularly take either "side", so I'm not bothered where she aligns herself, especially as she said she's not part of either side. Heather Antos is a retard but I feel she's a combination of dumb and opportunistic rather than being actively spiteful, and I don't think she's really deserving of the flack she gets.

Blake knows where the money is, and it's not in the wallets of the SJW side, especially when there's no appeasing them.
 
WhimsicalTrolli said:
I'm just calling you a ugly nigger from the lewis plantation, you talking about murdering and raping moms🤨tyler you are a retarded deranged nigger.
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Translation: "I know that I called you a racist slur as a insult, but that doesn't give you the right to be mean to me!!!"
 
jspit said:
But you'd still work with someone like that?
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I wouldn't NOT work with Donal. If I had a project for which he was suited (maybe a REIGNBOW BRUTE thing), his fight with Nasser wouldn't enter into whether or whether not I'd hire him.

It's a moot point. I don't have a project for him, and I think he's busy. But I'd consider giving work to anyone who was talented and not openly hostile to me. Slim pickins!



jspit said:
Of the lawsuit? You don't think Waid would sabotage you anymore or that places like Dynamite and Antarctic are irrelevant. Because unless you plan to cover everything from printing to retail, there will always be choke points SJWs will go after.
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The mainstream is irrelevant to me and Zack now. Even if they changed their hearts and welcomed us into the fold, we wouldn't work for the arrangement they offer. They can't afford us, and we can't afford to work for them.

Choke points are an issue, for sure. We've got two or three that need to be secured, but I'm not sure that isolating a single egregious individual and punishing him would protect us from the actions of a mob guided within a private network.

Punishing Waid is justice, (although whatever financial penalty he's dealt just isn't going to be worth all of this trouble) but does it mean anything in 2020 or 2021? I don't think it does.

It's the end of the Ya Boi Zack "movie" that people want to see. They want to see him win. But he's already won much bigger than that.
 
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A tell all confession from a former wc member named big Steve. He's saying that Ethan was a mod of wc who was worshipped and had control whoever gets harrassed or not and goes off on people on discord.
 
Stuff that happened in Comicsgate recently

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some sour losers in this thread

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This guy made a video about PVP webcomic creator Scott Kurtz and his saltiness on Twitter over Frog not akshually being a millionaire because Rekt Planet had overhead and Frog had to pay taxes, not realizing that Frog has run other successful crowdfunds in the past. While Frog's response was par for the course; a public dabbing on Scott Kurtz for his bad math, poor business sense, failure to fulfill his two kickstarter campaigns and generally being a personal and professional failure in comparison to him, this is about BvtZ's video.

Bianca vs The Zombies/boofit didn't really add much more to this, but he did make me smile by opening his video with advertising his bitchute channel that's free of of the oppression of Youtube's hate speech radar and by speculating that Gail Simone's vendetta with Frog is founded on a sordid affair during their shared time in DC comics with Mark Waid jerking off in the cuck corner. These disparate threads are woven together by BvtZ's deep hatred and disgust towards all fat people. Based.


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Warcampaign has been busy lately, opening with a salvo against Comicsgate e-girl "Charlie London"'s wack hairline with the account "CHARLIES BALDING". However, their enthusiasm against the innocuous simp shepherd got the better of them and reinoe, rebranding himself as some sort of shitty gayops Vidocq, shed light on this crime.


Of perhaps greater interest were the accusations from WC leveled at Frog that he attempted on Yellowflash's behalf to broker a "poaching" of Liam Gray's artist, Odysseas Theodoratos, complete with DMs supplied as evidenced originally by TinfoilhatNick in this tweet.


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While Frog had the predictable complaints about tards somehow distributing his personal DMs in public spats, there are a number of interesting things going on here, like the crude photoshopping of Liam's icon over (Ody)'s icon. Man of S3X clears up this ambiguity by immediately outing CiderHype, a former WCer that was inexplicably (until now) purged from WC along with TESTEFY-HD, as the source of these DMs. Evidently CiderHype wanted to convince the rest of WC that his friend Liam's fears of people trying to snatch his artist out from under him weren't just easily dismissed delusions and shared proofs that Liam confided with him. While as chief Liamologist with regular access to the primary Comicsgate info database (Kiwifarms), I know that Frog had already cleared these matters up with Liam privately months ago. But the people attempting to stoke Liam's paranoia and create a wedge between him and Comicsgate over time actually convinced themselves of their own narrative.

In the end, the whole op backfired with YellowUmbrellaGuy sulking about "one way loyalty from Warcampaign" after being accused of artist poaching and intra-Comicsgate sabotage, followed by WC inner circle member grpeephole desperately trying to deflect by placing responsibility on this on Liam and Frog for, uh, leaking the DMs to Warcampaign in the first place.

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Mister Dongs said:
Stuff that happened in Comicsgate recently


This guy made a video about PVP webcomic creator Scott Kurtz and his saltiness on Twitter over Frog not akshually being a millionaire because Rekt Planet had overhead and Frog had to pay taxes, not realizing that Frog has run other successful crowdfunds in the past. While Frog's response was par for the course; a public dabbing on Scott Kurtz for his bad math, poor business sense, failure to fulfill his two kickstarter campaigns and generally being a personal and professional failure in comparison to him, this is about BvtZ's video.

Bianca vs The Zombies/boofit didn't really add much more to this, but he did make me smile by opening his video with advertising his bitchute channel that's free of of the oppression of Youtube's hate speech radar and by speculating that Gail Simone's vendetta with Frog is founded on a sordid affair during their shared time in DC comics with Mark Waid jerking off in the cuck corner. These disparate threads are woven together by BvtZ's deep hatred and disgust towards all fat people. Based.


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Warcampaign has been busy lately, opening with a salvo against Comicsgate e-girl "Charlie London"'s wack hairline with the account "CHARLIES BALDING". However, their enthusiasm against the innocuous simp shepherd got the better of them and reinoe, rebranding himself as some sort of shitty gayops Vidocq, shed light on this crime.


Of perhaps greater interest were the accusations from WC leveled at Frog that he attempted on Yellowflash's behalf to broker a "poaching" of Liam Gray's artist, Odysseas Theodoratos, complete with DMs supplied as evidenced originally by TinfoilhatNick in this tweet.


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While Frog had the predictable complaints about tards somehow distributing his personal DMs in public spats, there are a number of interesting things going on here, like the crude photoshopping of Liam's icon over (Ody)'s icon. Man of S3X clears up this ambiguity by immediately outing CiderHype, a former WCer that was inexplicably (until now) purged from WC along with TESTEFY-HD, as the source of these DMs. Evidently CiderHype wanted to convince the rest of WC that his friend Liam's fears of people trying to snatch his artist out from under him weren't just fantasies of Liam's fevered imagination. While as chief Liamologist with regular access to the primary Comicsgate info database (Kiwifarms), I know that Frog had already cleared these matters up with Liam privately months ago. But the people attempting to stoke Liam's paranoia and create a wedge between him and Comicsgate actually convinced themselves of their own narrative.

In the end, the whole op backfired with YellowUmbrellaGuy sulking about "one way loyalty from Warcampaign" after being accused of artist poaching and intra-Comicsgate sabotage, followed by WC inner circle member grpeephole desperately trying to deflect by placing responsibility on this on Liam and Frog for, uh, leaking the DMs to Warcampaign in the first place.

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"He asked me to ask you"
Lol @FROG that's the gayest shit ever, what are you doing, asking if he wants to go to the grade 6 sock-hop?

"Your pepperoni pizza pie will be ready in 10, if you're looking to kill time there's a bloke behind shop who wants to suck yo dick, he asked me to ask you."
 
I guess the whole twitter game here was to make Liam paranoid about losing his artist, at my and YF's expense, and for fun?

ComicsGate has several terrific artists who float around from project to project. (ex. Caanan White, Donal Delay, Keung Lee, Rob Willis) They have "main projects" but they also have bills to pay, so they accept freelance work.

You can hire them, assuming they have room on their schedule.

I get work offers constantly from strangers who don't understand that I am not doing very much freelance work at all. But I might do something if Jon Malin, or Cecil, or Zack made the introduction. Or I'd at least consider it.

This was the case with Yellow Flash, who wanted a manga artist, but didn't know any. Ody was showing me some of his samples, and I showed YF those samples. YF asked if I'd connect the two of them.

Yellow Flash could have just approached Ody, but I think YF assumed he'd have a better result if I made the introduction. This would have worked out pretty well if Ody was freelance and accepting more work-for-hire. But we didn't know Ody's work situation, and Ody said no thanks to YF.

It's clear that the communication that leaked came from Ody. My guess is that Ody sent it to Liam. (Who else would he send it to?) My further guess is that Liam sent it to someone at WC, who built a conspiracy theory around it.

There have been people who complain about being "kicked out of ComicsGate," which only really means, "Ethan doesn't talk to me any more."

This is the kind of thing that causes that to happen.
 
FROG said:
I guess the whole twitter game here was to make Liam paranoid about losing his artist, at my and YF's expense, and for fun?

ComicsGate has several terrific artists who float around from project to project. (ex. Caanan White, Donal Delay, Keung Lee, Rob Willis) They have "main projects" but they also have bills to pay, so they accept freelance work.

You can hire them, assuming they have room on their schedule.

I get work offers constantly from strangers who don't understand that I am not doing very much freelance work at all. But I might do something if Jon Malin, or Cecil, or Zack made the introduction. Or I'd at least consider it.

This was the case with Yellow Flash, who wanted a manga artist, but didn't know any. Ody was showing me some of his samples, and I showed YF those samples. YF asked if I'd connect the two of them.

Yellow Flash could have just approached Ody, but I think YF assumed he'd have a better result if I made the introduction. This would have worked out pretty well if Ody was freelance and accepting more work-for-hire. But we didn't know Ody's work situation, and Ody said no thanks to YF.

It's clear that the communication that leaked came from Ody. My guess is that Ody sent it to Liam. (Who else would he send it to?) My further guess is that Liam sent it to someone at WC, who built a conspiracy theory around it.

There have been people who complain about being "kicked out of ComicsGate," which only really means, "Ethan doesn't talk to me any more."

This is the kind of thing that causes that to happen.
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The game is for people to talk about WC again. They're desperate for anything that makes them relevant, even threatening to dox Cecil again. Don't give them the oxygen, they're already dead.
 
FROG said:
I guess the whole twitter game here was to make Liam paranoid about losing his artist, at my and YF's expense, and for fun?
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I think it started like that originally, when Liam was being pressured heavily in the WC discord to "take a stand" and commit Comicsgate apostasy in support of Warcampaign. But that could be done without publicly calling Yellowflash a poacher and a talent thief and burning bridges with him, so they didn't. Why they chose to now, after Liam was declared a fencesitter after declining to do so, implies that there's those in WC that have now completely bought into this conspiracy theory that was originally meant just to flip Liam.

After all, there was a stretch there where Ody was secretly drawing 110 pages of manga to be distributed for free while appearing to the world to be doing nothing after completing Xenotype. Having some guy with a large platform promote his artwork every day for months on end may have been time better served, but I can't fault Yellowflash for considering the possibility. This whole mess could have been avoided if Ody was just upfront about only wanting to work on Xenotype.
 
SaidNoOneEver said:
The game is for people to talk about WC again. They're desperate for anything that makes them relevant, even threatening to dox Cecil again. Don't give them the oxygen, they're already dead.
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The WC spergs jumped the shark with their gay ass black dragon discord op that resulted in most of them getting doxed and a huge drop in viewers and support.

WC continues to spiral into gayer ops they are approaching TUG and Donal Delay levels of cuckery.

Anyone involved with EVS is neck deep in gay ops no matter who they are. People who go through him for a recommendation deserves the inevitable ass fucking they are going to get.
 
What is this nonsense about "poaching" artists? Artists aren't slaves on the plantation. They can and should work for whoever they think it would be profitable and beneficial to work for.

Is the idea that if an artist does work with a CG-affiliated creator, they become tainted and toxic and can't do work with a WC-affiliated creator again? That would be some SJW-like thinking.
 
FROG said:
I guess the whole twitter game here was to make Liam paranoid about losing his artist, at my and YF's expense, and for fun?

ComicsGate has several terrific artists who float around from project to project. (ex. Caanan White, Donal Delay, Keung Lee, Rob Willis) They have "main projects" but they also have bills to pay, so they accept freelance work.

You can hire them, assuming they have room on their schedule.

I get work offers constantly from strangers who don't understand that I am not doing very much freelance work at all. But I might do something if Jon Malin, or Cecil, or Zack made the introduction. Or I'd at least consider it.

This was the case with Yellow Flash, who wanted a manga artist, but didn't know any. Ody was showing me some of his samples, and I showed YF those samples. YF asked if I'd connect the two of them.

Yellow Flash could have just approached Ody, but I think YF assumed he'd have a better result if I made the introduction. This would have worked out pretty well if Ody was freelance and accepting more work-for-hire. But we didn't know Ody's work situation, and Ody said no thanks to YF.

It's clear that the communication that leaked came from Ody. My guess is that Ody sent it to Liam. (Who else would he send it to?) My further guess is that Liam sent it to someone at WC, who built a conspiracy theory around it.

There have been people who complain about being "kicked out of ComicsGate," which only really means, "Ethan doesn't talk to me any more."

This is the kind of thing that causes that to happen.
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Well, when the definition of "comicsgate" is Frog fan club that would be the kiss of death.

-Richard's continuing to review comics. Some of them are pretty bad with a lack of substantive discussion of the comic.

In the mainstream tube.

-Drink and Draw continues.

Hilariously, the theme a week ago was Mary Jane Watson with Joe Quesada drawing her.

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Marvel also "asked them" to design variants for the Eternals.


-Frog did a number of snore streams.

The best @FROG stream since the Didio stream snipe. Interesting reveal if true that DC denied access to Todd McFarlane working on Batman in exchange for the right to do toys. If true, Didio and DC management cost themselves a fortune. Of course, @FROG doesn't specify what he means by 'work on'. Anything beyond McFarlane drawing would have been a nothing burger.


Beyond this one stream a bunch of terrible streams with everyones fav lush, the bearded autist, and the usual horde of wannabes and has been.

-Speaking of Cecil, he had a 150,000 sub stream with his work girlfriend/professional ethot Anna and thirsty Liefeld Light.

Most of the stream literally involves looking at fucking dirt and trees. Comicsgate may be the worst community on youtube.

-Slipping below the radar, a peripheral channel with good content Midnights Edge did a solid interview with Chuck Dixon.


Some interesting take aways.

Chuck praises Denny O'Neil and Larry Hama as editors, but casts shade on the New Gotham era bat editors and Dan Didio and the Nu52.

Chuck gives the usual bad take on manga from a Western creator. IE, anime is successful because its diverse genres and because its well done.

Some nice discussion of Conan, which is a part of Dixon's portfolio too often overlooked.
 
Least Concern said:
What is this nonsense about "poaching" artists? Artists aren't slaves on the plantation. They can and should work for whoever they think it would be profitable and beneficial to work for.

Is the idea that if an artist does work with a CG-affiliated creator, they become tainted and toxic and can't do work with a WC-affiliated creator again? That would be some SJW-like thinking.
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I don't think that's the problem.

A lot of the main driving voices behind these ComicsGate IGG campaigns are the writers. (Ya Boi Zack, Cecil, Antonio Brice, Liam Gray, Clint Stoker, Von Klaus, Cal Jameson, War Campaign) and these guys have got artists that they like, who are drawing their comic scripts.

Writers are usually fast, while artists are slow, and 48+ pages of competitive art can, in some cases, take some artists the better part of a year.

So the writers are counting on these artists, who are usually working at whatever their pace is, usually for a work-for-hire rate.

It's extremely threatening to have someone swoop in and offer big bucks to an artist, either for a long term project, or a more limited gig like a cover. The artist might quit his first job, and a cover or pin up is a distraction that might derail the artist from working at a nice clip on the script he's committed to.

The best artists will always get multiple offers, and it's not such a bad thing for Liam Gray to sign Ody to a contract that says, "You'll finish my job first", because if Yellow Flash did convince Ody to leave XENOTYPE mid-project, Liam would be screwed.

The thing is, nobody knows an artist's pace or his work situation until they ask. So YF asking about Ody was fair play, and Liam had Ody bound by contract, so Liam shouldn't have worried.

If there's no contract or written agreement, an artist can quit his current gig at any time for a better offer.
 
The latest controversy brewing right now in the life of Liam Gray is the recent expose that he was DMing a 14 year old boy.

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In the first tweet we have a clip from a recent Life with Liam livestream in which Liam first admits to speaking with the minor.

















Then a series of DMs of Liam confessing he is doing so without the parents permission, which is a alleged to be crime in several countries.
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It would appear this isn't the only 14 year old Liam is following on his twitter, which raises even more questions. The names of the accounts of been redacted due to their age.
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I should note that from the DMs that Liam posted it would appear, however highly inappropriate, their conversation was not sexual in nature. After receiving further tweets from various individuals in Comicsgate and anti-Comicsgate, Liam took to youtube to fight these slanderous allegations with the threats of legal action and a mass banning of his youtube chat.

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Now am I accusing Liam Gray of being a gay pedophile for DMing with a 14 year old boy? Of course not, however I would say that DMing a 14 year old boy is exactly the thing a gay pedophile would do. There's certainly an aura of suspicion over this whole situation, fortunately Liam himself provided advice on what to do when suspecting someone of pedophilia in a now deleted livestream with Micah Curtis.
















Liam Gray (@Tyne) has been threadbanned from this thread so cannot answer these allegations himself, however I think this picture below speaks volumes more than he ever could.
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Why was Liam DMing with a 14 year old boy?
Why is Liam Gray hanging around preschools?
Why is he wearing camo pants on a hot summers day?

This reporter will update as the situation develops.

EDIT: Added "alleged" to the sentence about speaking with minors over social media without their parents consent possibly being a crime.
 
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