#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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This was brought to my attention, looks like former Comicsgater turned critic George Alexopoulus aka George Pussopoulus was recently covered in an infowars offshoot site due to his viral Joe Biden cartoon.
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FROG said:
So when @VIkkiVerse said that Pulido didn't livestream, she was wrong? Shocking.
if Zack had that like KA2 has, he'd double KA2's backer count.

Ha ha.
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Ha ha. Bunny boy currently has 400 more backers than Zack.

You're going to have to keep pimping your 'godfather of CG' if you want him to keep up with the rodent.

I caught your stream with Zack. I was really enjoying the part where he was asked what he thought of Pulido's model and he went on and on and on about how he tries to learn from Pulido. I don't think he bothers doing spreadsheets of Cybefrog campaigns. lol
 
Brother Maynard said:
Ha ha. Bunny boy currently has 400 more backers than Zack.

You're going to have to keep pimping your 'godfather of CG' if you want him to keep up with the rodent.

I caught your stream with Zack. I was really enjoying the part where he was asked what he thought of Pulido's model and he went on and on and on about how he tries to learn from Pulido. I don't think he bothers doing spreadsheets of Cybefrog campaigns. lol
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Grrr, that Bunny Boy!!

Thanks for watching the show!

Do you think "learning from Pulido" is working out well for him?
 
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FROG said:
Grrr, that Bunny Boy!!

Thanks for watching the show!

Do you think "learning from Pulido" is working out well for him?
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Zack has a huge audience, and he would do well to Livestream to promote his projects, I am not dismissing that. He's certainly not utilizing his assets to the best of his ability.

His learning from Pulido, though, could benefit him long term, as what Brian does is a viable business model that isn't reliant on how much drama he can dredge up or how much spite he can muster from his audience. Pulido's business model is just that: Business. It's not reliant on the emotions of angry customers, it's building an actual fanbase of the product.

You sell books on spite and rage. You think 'it all spends'. And as long as you can keep ginning up resentment for this 'bad guy' or that 'bad guy' from your audience, you'll keep making millions of dollars. Not everyone wants that. I think Zack wants the Pulido model. I think he wants to make comic books more than he wants to be a talk show host shilling product based on personality. It's working out for you short term, and you'll likely always have enough fans to keep it going... for you.

But you pretend to be building a movement. Movements based on resentment don't last forever, because you can't keep stoking a fire forever, eventually it burns out. You're dragging good people into your vitriolic hate-fest, and it's almost never about the comics themselves. Yeah, comic streams can be boring to the non-comic fan audience. But if 'Comicsgate' is supposed to be ABOUT COMICS, then the audience should be interested in comic streams.

But it's not about comics. And it's not about the culture war. It's just about you.

Anyway, that's why I'm not Comicsgate anymore. And I'm not alone.
 
God bless any mother fucker succeeding at independent comics. There will be time for dick measuring and eating each other after the commies are defeated.
 
Brother Maynard said:
Zack has a huge audience, and he would do well to Livestream to promote his projects, I am not dismissing that. He's certainly not utilizing his assets to the best of his ability.

His learning from Pulido, though, could benefit him long term, as what Brian does is a viable business model that isn't reliant on how much drama he can dredge up or how much spite he can muster from his audience. Pulido's business model is just that: Business. It's not reliant on the emotions of angry customers, it's building an actual fanbase of the product.

You sell books on spite and rage. You think 'it all spends'. And as long as you can keep ginning up resentment for this 'bad guy' or that 'bad guy' from your audience, you'll keep making millions of dollars. Not everyone wants that. I think Zack wants the Pulido model. I think he wants to make comic books more than he wants to be a talk show host shilling product based on personality. It's working out for you short term, and you'll likely always have enough fans to keep it going... for you.

But you pretend to be building a movement. Movements based on resentment don't last forever, because you can't keep stoking a fire forever, eventually it burns out. You're dragging good people into your vitriolic hate-fest, and it's almost never about the comics themselves. Yeah, comic streams can be boring to the non-comic fan audience. But if 'Comicsgate' is supposed to be ABOUT COMICS, then the audience should be interested in comic streams.

But it's not about comics. And it's not about the culture war. It's just about you.

Anyway, that's why I'm not Comicsgate anymore. And I'm not alone.
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Well then you're a fucking idiot. Why would you "leave" whatever your ideal vision of ComicsGate is just because you're mad at my YouTube channel?

There isn't a "Brian Pulido Model."

Well, wait, yes there is. It involves being at the center of a sales phenomenon two decades ago and amassing a huge fanbase for your Heavy Metal/Sexy Chick books, and being a singularly charismatic Horror Stan Lee huckster.

That's something that can be duplicated by maybe three other people in comics.

Pulido has a brand, he has a company full of paid employees, and he has LADY DEATH. He has a loyal pseudo-cult fanbase that call themselves "Maniacs" or something. I can't remember.

It's a carefully crafted persona built over the course of 25 years, and that's now HIS unique situation.

It can't be copied, and certainly not quickly or by just anyone.

There is nothing in there for Zack. He must sell comics by being a talk show host/critic with a close relationship to his fans, because he isn't a huckster like Stan Lee or Brian Pulido or me. He could duplicate Brian Pulido's campaigns exactly and not get his result, because the content, frequency, whatever isn't what's selling Brian Pulido's comics.

It's Brian Pulido.

There are tons of comics with great art featuring horror elements and half dressed females. They don't sell Coffin Comics numbers because there isn't a figure like Pulido at the center of them, marketing them and making fans want to buy them.

Telling indie creators that there's an algorithm that Pulido has tapped into that they should follow does a disservice to them and to Brian Pulido. He is unique. He has charm and pizzazz.

You and your friends don't.
 
The Bovinian Derivative said:
Excuse me, what the fuck?
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In another now privated Steam, Liam claims that a couple of years back he worked so hard on his writing that he 'tore his brain' (his actual words). He had to learn to speak and walk again. Apparently this 'tearing' can happen again at any time and kill him, doctors have told Liam he won't live past 50.
 
The Bovinian Derivative said:
Excuse me, what the fuck?
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Liam is an Ubertard snowflake that melts at the slightest criticism. He chimps out and throws poo but God forbid anyone throw it back his head explodes.
All of this talk about Brian Pulido is boring as fuck. The guy isn't funny at all and talking about him here won't get him to chimp out like Liam or the breitweisers.
I liked this thread a lot better when the topics either drew the cows themselves to post in this forum or go off on twitter and Facebook. Ethan is a lot less entertaining when he's discussing the economics of crowdfunding instead of stirring the shit pot.
Caradoc Rexious said:
In another now privated Steam, Liam claims that a couple of years back he worked so hard on his writing that he 'tore his brain' (his actual words). He had to learn to speak and walk again. Apparently this 'tearing' can happen again at any time and kill him, doctors have told Liam he won't live past 50.
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He's lying. He tore his asshole taking a monster constipated shit and got so angry he beat his mother with a puppy.
 
Update on Comichron. My suspicions were confirmed. I checked back in. They've finally released charts,


But have removed units shipped. This has been an eyesore for the various companies for years. The official line is, if I'm understanding right, that DC comics new distribution plus COVID makes the numbers hard to obtain? I'm skeptical as you still have diamonds numbers and it is still the sole distributor for a supermajority of the comics industry.

The dangerous of a sales category without numbers is plain. Amazon has a digital version of the Far Sector at #8 as it's sixth best selling title. But what does that mean. If it only sells say a hundred copies on release, is that as impressive?

Yang Wen-Li said:
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I'm shocked. Shocked and stunned.

In boring ass CG

Richard and @FROG streamed.


takeaways.

>Frog was desperately pushing Impossible Stars. It's currently, after a four hour plus livestream and a shit ton of pushing at 39,000 dollars and 751 backers.

>Richard acknowledges that Livestreaming helps sell books, but when he does it he doesn't get work done. I'd point out that this is his job and one four hour livestream, assuming he only does a 40 hour work week would leave him with 36 hours to work.

>@Frog does his gay panic voice. The brain damaged CG audience lap it up.

Over on Richard's own channel he's done an assortment of mostly half hearted reviews and editorials.

>The exception being his review of the latest Captain American. A rare moment of genuine.

YellowFlash is reviewing comics. Don't worry, he's still doing clickbait videos on everything and the sink too. They're so inconsistent and bunched together as to be unworthy of comment.

Tug is boring on YT, but Mattty is going out on twitter. Bit of a crossover this one. CG's #1 cuck is feuding with Weeb SJW Ron Toye over Toye threatening to Dox people.


Ol' Matt is standing on shaky ground, considering his own history of doxxing.

 
jspit said:
>Frog was desperately pushing Impossible Stars. It's currently, after a four hour plus livestream and a shit ton of pushing at 39,000 dollars and 751 backers.

>Richard acknowledges that Livestreaming helps sell books, but when he does it he doesn't get work done. I'd point out that this is his job and one four hour livestream, assuming he only does a 40 hour work week would leave him with 36 hours to work.
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We raised $7000 for IMPOSSIBLE STARS by doing that one livestream.

Anything Zack crowdfunds should raise 6 figures, and it would if he'd just get out there and do the marketing work.

That was a fun stream and people LOVED getting to hear him in natural banter with me. He sold a ton of books, and I made about $400 in superchats for hosting him.

This is the way.
 
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