#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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@FROG as a member of this forum, you should at least do some sort of content referencing Chris-Chan.
After all, this site was built on documenting Chris-Chan's "eccentric behavior."
Maybe have Cyberfrog meet Frogchu coming through a dimensional rift?

I'll be honest, I don't know much about him. Something about Sonic the Hedgehog? Can you link me to a primer?
 
You are an infinitely better businessman than Chris, far more productive, charismatic and intelligent but that internet weirdo knows how to build an audience.

I'd say that's more indicative of Comicsgate still being a counterculture subset of online western comic book fandom, whereas CWC is a piece of online internet culture in general. Frog is a big fish in a very small pond, compared to the relative ocean of people interested in content following even marginal and obscure internet personalities like Chris-Chan. Who >herself is small potatoes compared to more general online celebrities like PewDiePie, Keemstar, Leafy or most of the people in the "Internet Famous" subforum.

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I'm going to go ahead and agree with Frog that there's only so much that can be done within the shrinking niche that is greater comic book culture, but leaving that means becoming a straight up e-celeb and there's no guarantee as to how open that audience would be towards buying comic books and related merch. Ya Boi Zack and Boom Studios's experiments with non-comic celebrities are returning favorable results.

Hell, guys like Warren Ellis built up an online comic cult surrounding himself for nearly three decades and even he bailed for Netflix when the opportunity presented itself. Gail Simone and Donny Cates are prominent figures in comics but they couldn't break into Youtube to market themselves. Sean Gordon Murphy and Scott Snyder didn't even try.

A more apt comparison relating to Frog would be Comicsgate-friendly youtubers such as Nerdrotic and HeelsVsBabyface who've gone on to eclipse Frog's channel by covering more general comics-related fare as opposed to holding CG crowdfunding drives, extended drunken shock jock broadcasts where personalities are marketed and internal drama and beefs. So Frog's channel, even within the niche of a niche that CG currently is, isn't all it possibly could be. But trying to break away from the limited sphere that is the comics industry and trying to become a general online celeb isn't without risk either. Most of the success stories are in their mid-20s (the better to attract a younger audience) telegenic and put work into polishing and editing their content to garner maximum amounts of attention; none of which really applies to Frog. Breaking away from comics only to fuck around with Andy Warski or whoever and to go from someone cranking out 6-7 figure campaigns to some sort of off-brand Coach RedPill would not be a wise career decision.

It's the smaller creators in CG who have nothing to lose, really.
 
Why would you do an Indiegogo campaign for something that is already created, already exists and is sitting in a box in a warehouse? :\ I'm not saying this is right or wrong, just counterintuitive to what I thought crowdfunding was supposed to be all about.

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That just sounds like Zack doesn't know how to set up an ebay store or a website and would rather give IGG a large cut than figure it out.
Or there's something going on with whoever runs his carefully guarded "Fulfilllment Center" that doesn't allow for singular orders.
 
Seems Shitty Web Comics's YouTube has been nuked from orbit after a five part gloat about Liam

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That just sounds like Zack doesn't know how to set up an ebay store or a website and would rather give IGG a large cut than figure it out.
Or there's something going on with whoever runs his carefully guarded "Fulfilllment Center" that doesn't allow for singular orders.

EBay stores are great but cost EBay fees and Paypal fees. We still make $6-10K per month selling extra CYBERFROG stuff, but it means shipping every single day, rather than all at once. I don’t know what Zack’s fulfillment situation is, but he told me he wanted to do holiday bundles with extras.
 
They said this would happen. Don't think they'll be that bothered as it shows Comicsgate will use the same cowardly tactics as SJW Cancel Culture.

They’re insufferable anonymous douchebags who smear people for fun. That’s fairly cowardly.

Liam said:

“SWC used DA Talks has a buffer so my lawyer could not serve the papers. YouTube is aware of it and their videos were reinstated by the bot. Their whole channel is still under review and will probably be nuked this week.

We are working on getting their names and address so that we can serve them and bring them to court.

Keep it to yourself please, let them celebrate and proclaim victory. I want them sloppy and saying stupid shit that incriminates themselves.”


Crazy that they let Liam get the last laugh on them, but play retarded games with retards and retarded shit happens.
 
They’re insufferable anonymous douchebags who smear people for fun. That’s fairly cowardly.

Liam said:

“SWC used DA Talks has a buffer so my lawyer could not serve the papers. YouTube is aware of it and their videos were reinstated by the bot. Their whole channel is still under review and will probably be nuked this week.

We are working on getting their names and address so that we can serve them and bring them to court.

Keep it to yourself please, let them celebrate and proclaim victory. I want them sloppy and saying stupid shit that incriminates themselves.”


Crazy that they let Liam get the last laugh on them, but play retarded games with retards and retarded shit happens.
How dare SWC use an authorized agent, as allowed by YouTube to file their counter-claim, and now they're being investigated! The original strike is made automatically by a bot. The counter claim isn't reviewed by a bot.

Liam also said that the Australian government was going to be handling his civil copyright claim,

Please tell me you didn't actually fall for that @FROG.
 
How dare SWC use an authorized agent, as allowed by YouTube to file their counter-claim, and now they're being investigated! The original strike is made automatically by a bot. The counter claim isn't reviewed by a bot.

Liam also said that the Australian government was going to be handling his civil copyright claim,

Please tell me you didn't actually fall for that @FROG.
God forbid an anonymous retard with barely any views make fun of a comic book millionaire with tens of thousands of followers..
Oh yeah, thats exactly what ya boi Zack did for years.
Ethan chimping out over what literal nobodies have to say is pure lolcowism.
Liam is a fucking idiot and a classic Ethan orbiter. Like everyone else who latches onto EVS for clout he's 100% a faggot.
I don't watch SWC, don't give a shit what they have to say because they are boring a-logs who have nothing better to do than make videos about mentally handicapped comic book spergs. Liam threatening a couple of tards with lolsuits over shitty comic books only proves that comicsgate is a circle jerk of autistic slap fights and a giant turd swirling the internet toilet bowl.

All these CG fags who supposedly make so much money off of funny books have to do is ignore their haters, let them get 50-100 views per video and focus on their own shit but they can't resist the pointless drama.
 
All these CG fags who supposedly make so much money off of funny books have to do is ignore their haters, let them get 50-100 views per video and focus on their own shit but they can't resist the pointless drama.

It isn't pointless drama. Drama is the fuel that keeps Comicsgate running, the bigger the drama the bigger the payout if it's pointed at the right 'enemy'.

Totally agree about the Zack comparison. Another instance where Comicsgate has become the very thing they were fighting against.
 
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Another instance where Comicsgate has become the very thing they were fighting against.

I disagree with only one thing: "Liam struck us, so therefore CG struck us, therefore we were right". Guilt by association is an SJW tactic, and these two speds have been using it from the get go. Not to mention the reductionist logic at play here.

I can't believe I'm about to say this for someone who doesn't give @FROG the benefit of the doubt, but I highly doubt a conspiracy that goes all the way to the top of Ethan commanding for people to mass flag SWC just cause they pissed off a mentally deranged fat orange Aussie. What makes me say this? The fact that Ethan observed the situation after hearing about Liam doing it, disavowing his actions before the channel was taken down, and sharing his DMs with Liam, even if it's not a screenshot, I'm sure if Liam wants to counter what EVS said, he can leak those himself, since I do remember Ethan saying he doesn't share screenshots of private convos (maybe not publicly, but I digress, the point still stands). Unless, Ethan, you'd like to show that to us too just to shut up the detractors right about now.

The two retarded brothers can whine, cry, and moan as much as they want in the form of sucking off each others cock about how right they were to cope or how much they intended for this to happen, but they might as well go off calling themselves SJWs too now.

Aren't these the same brothers who went around spreading false accusations after another without any evidence despite claiming objectivity long before their spedfight with Liam? They hardly qualify as critics and have long overstayed their welcome. I guess this is the one time they can finally say that this is the one thing they knew about before KiwiFarms: how wrong they were.
 
I'm confused. I thought CG wasn't allowed to talk politics, because you know, divisiveness and stuff?
Someone please direct me to the rule book.
I'd say that's more indicative of Comicsgate still being a counterculture subset of online western comic book fandom, whereas CWC is a piece of online internet culture in general. Frog is a big fish in a very small pond, compared to the relative ocean of people interested in content following even marginal and obscure internet personalities like Chris-Chan. Who >herself is small potatoes compared to more general online celebrities like PewDiePie, Keemstar, Leafy or most of the people in the "Internet Famous" subforum.

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I'm going to go ahead and agree with Frog that there's only so much that can be done within the shrinking niche that is greater comic book culture, but leaving that means becoming a straight up e-celeb and there's no guarantee as to how open that audience would be towards buying comic books and related merch. Ya Boi Zack and Boom Studios's experiments with non-comic celebrities are returning favorable results.

Hell, guys like Warren Ellis built up an online comic cult surrounding himself for nearly three decades and even he bailed for Netflix when the opportunity presented itself. Gail Simone and Donny Cates are prominent figures in comics but they couldn't break into Youtube to market themselves. Sean Gordon Murphy and Scott Snyder didn't even try.

A more apt comparison relating to Frog would be Comicsgate-friendly youtubers such as Nerdrotic and HeelsVsBabyface who've gone on to eclipse Frog's channel by covering more general comics-related fare as opposed to holding CG crowdfunding drives, extended drunken shock jock broadcasts where personalities are marketed and internal drama and beefs. So Frog's channel, even within the niche of a niche that CG currently is, isn't all it possibly could be. But trying to break away from the limited sphere that is the comics industry and trying to become a general online celeb isn't without risk either. Most of the success stories are in their mid-20s (the better to attract a younger audience) telegenic and put work into polishing and editing their content to garner maximum amounts of attention; none of which really applies to Frog. Breaking away from comics only to fuck around with Andy Warski or whoever and to go from someone cranking out 6-7 figure campaigns to some sort of off-brand Coach RedPill would not be a wise career decision.

It's the smaller creators in CG who have nothing to lose, really.

Has Nerkish eclipsed Frog? I know Heels is an outrage monkey who got a bump from LOU 2 and Doctor Who's implosion.

Why would you do an Indiegogo campaign for something that is already created, already exists and is sitting in a box in a warehouse? :\ I'm not saying this is right or wrong, just counterintuitive to what I thought crowdfunding was supposed to be all about.

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That just sounds like Zack doesn't know how to set up an ebay store or a website and would rather give IGG a large cut than figure it out.
Or there's something going on with whoever runs his carefully guarded "Fulfilllment Center" that doesn't allow for singular orders.

That's how printing and fulfilling goes.

Printers give you better deals for bigger orders, so you purchase what it takes to get the better deal. In addition, you order more than you need because, shit happens. The mail people steal a copy or leave it in the rain. You send a copy but there was an error. If you do it right, you should end up with extras if things work out.

I note there isn't Jawbreakers Lost Souls. I get that as a writer it wasn't his best work, but it's his best campaign. I'd think he'd want to do another run, especially because bundling series has become the big thing.
 
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It had pretty spicy takes and corellated proof on why comicsgate are the real SJW's as a whole mostly, and predicted they would again strike this down :)

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EBay stores are great but cost EBay fees and Paypal fees. We still make $6-10K per month selling extra CYBERFROG stuff, but it means shipping every single day, rather than all at once. I don’t know what Zack’s fulfillment situation is, but he told me he wanted to do holiday bundles with extras.

This is not the only thing and the only time you kept stealing from their "brand" using "shouldhavelistenedtowarcampaign" back in the day when you were more than happy to run them when they weren't too much of a pr disaster, also picking up their own lines, and very specific / detailed lines from their own videos that showed that you didn't only listen and watch their video but nitpicking sometimes entire sentences and their specific turn of words for yourself, which is pretty telling of how really assmad you are about them behind the scenes. And you still run warcampaign even if they are subdissected in compartimentalized groups after your crowd got tired of seeing Ro's Face running plausible deniability damage control and bending over to receive punishement for your own actions, used them, and still using them as proxies.


Keep putting on a face, but everyone know what kind of bitch you are now.
 
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