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This is the comicsgate thread. But what the hell.

When talking about popularity considering at most Republicans make up one in five to one in four Americans, you fucking dumbass. I was talking about all Americans. Trumps approval ratings during his Presidency stayed in the forties. That's why he was a one termer and, unlike Regan, his fellow one termer Bush Sr., and W, never actually won the popular vote...

Speaking of



Yes. They apparently do.

Hell, Mitt Romney got 46 percent of the popular vote. It probably didn't hurt that his opponents where Obama's silly white grandpa and Hillary fucking Clinton.

Your the kind of 'conservatives' that pair well with Edwin. Live in your little bubble.

Can you two please stop shitting up the thread now? Give me your downvotes and move on.

He got that percentage because of the shit job Obama was doing in office.

While for Trump, it took a pandemic, 90 days of rioting and a wonky mail in ballot system with suspect vote counters To get him out of office.

but yeah, I’ll agree that we should get the subject back to comics.
 
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He got that percentage because of the shit job Obama was doing in office.

While for Trump, it took a pandemic, 90 days of rioting and a wonky mail in ballot system with suspect vote counters.

but yeah, I’ll agree that we should get the subject back to comics.
He's talking about 2020 where Trump got more votes than any presidential candidate in history.
 
“Hi, Anna? Could you please give me intimate details of the exact cause of death of your sister, including the medical examiner’s report so I can have documentation? Yes, I’m asking because I might need it when I eventually get into an online argument with a closeted homosexual on KiwiFarms. Thanks.”

The exact specifics of her death aren’t important. I made an erroneous assumption due to past experience. What‘s important is the reaction to that.
She drove a car over a cliff. She wasn't murdered.

You are retarded.

Yes, I was there “in real time”, which is why I know this comment shows how full of shit you are.
You were there in real time and thought WC got the boot for comments made the previous year not for fucking with the Dynamite deal.

Truly retarded.
  • @Newman's Own argument that it was not the rivalry over Anna but Warcampaign's objection to Dynamite Comics as a fulfillment service that led to Frog's denouncement of Warcampaign is more an opinion than fact, but one that omits that the objections to Dynamite were being raised only because the original demands that Anna's shitty Vampirella cover not being promoted on CG channels like the JACK show on grounds of taste were going to be ignored, and this was a raising of stakes, not two unrelated issues.
  • The truth of the matter can be found in the "Angry Violent Chillstream" video posted by @Pilule Noire ( Writeup here) . After the objections over the Anna covered were ignored, and it was clear that their objections to creators working with Dynamite Comics were going to be ignored, now backed into a corner Panboy was sent to Frog's livestream to deliver a "it's them or us" ultimatum as the final card left to play. Unlike what Newman's Own would assert, of Frog's godlike power of persuasion and charisma that he made everyone cancel WC for interfering with Dynamite, Panboy appears to made these decisions of his own free will. If these final demands weren't met, then they would peacefully wash their hands of Comicsgate and walk away with no ill will towards anyone. As shown by the nifty collage of tweets @The Lonely Man made of the following week when it was clear nobody was going to walk away with them.
Yeah. Ethan sided against WC for the first time ever in favor of his two talentless hack friends who just happened to be running tard milking campaigns with Dynamite at the time. They were fucking with Dynamite (Ethan's unnamed at the time printing and fulfillment service), Anna and Cecil and the difference was this time he didn't approve of the targets. Any moral outrage over WC tactics and morality was years late and hollow as the murmur of the midnight sea after the tempest nursed itself to rest.

All of this is congruent with what I said. WarCampaign didn't willingly leave CG they were already unwillingly being pushed out when they issued their pathetic ultimatum.

The real split was triggered when War Campaign became the arbiters of "CG Quality" and went out of their way to make fun of her Vampirella cover. Curiously so for such an inconsequential thing. That's when it became open war with sides declared, so to speak.
You probably think WW1 started because Franz (whom nobody liked) Ferdinand got shot and everyone just lost their shit and started shooting eachother.

It's never the reason people claim. It's always about the money.

Was Edwin always this sassy or have I just not been paying attention?
No. But I will say DILLIGAF Edwin is the best version so far.

I agree, continue crying sperging all involved.
Indeed, based Edwin triggering the fuck out of IcecreamSimp is the most entertainment this thread has produced in weeks.

Can you two please stop shitting up the thread now? Give me your downvotes and move on.
I'd prefer they keep the slap fest going a little longer myself.
 
The Lady Alchemy lawsuit against Martina Markota was dismissed for lack of jurisdiction. There was insufficient evidence that she directed her actions toward California. The judge denied the plaintiffs' request for leave to conduct discovery to investigate whether she is currently in New York or London. The judge also denied the request for leave to amend their complaint again. Her lawyer has dared them to sue her in New York, so stay tuned!

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"Come and get me" (Her lawyers reply to their third amended complaint)

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Yeah. Ethan sided against WC for the first time ever in favor of his two talentless hack friends who just happened to be running tard milking campaigns with Dynamite at the time
Sullen sarcasm aside, I and Pilule Noire are the ones who have posted links to the actual livestreams where the "it's them or us" ultimatum can be viewed by anyone, whereas all you have provided in support of this narrative of "WC were cancelled for blowing the lid off Dynamite" you are trying to peddle is a weak inductive syllogism followed by the conjecture that 250+ IQ Frog must have keikaku'd Panboy into doing and saying those things, all with no supporting evidence. But even the above wasn't embarrassing as the following:

It's never the reason people claim. It's always about the money.
Imagine trying to assert that everyone in Comicsgate is secretly a rational actor. :smug:

All this time I thought she was the one suing them. 😳 (And that she was going to get her ass handed to her.)
Very fortunate for her, because I thought that the fact Markota never paid Christopher Spiedel for his writing would have sunk any defense she had.
 
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The Lady Alchemy lawsuit against Martina Markota was dismissed for lack of jurisdiction. There was insufficient evidence that she directed her actions toward California. The judge denied the plaintiffs' request for leave to conduct discovery to investigate whether she is currently in New York or London. The judge also denied the request for leave to amend their complaint again. Her lawyer has dared them to sue her in New York, so stay tuned!

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"Come and get me" (Her lawyers reply to their third amended complaint)

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Thank you for posting something that was actually informative and worth reading in this dumpster fire of a thread. Today was worth it to log in and scroll past the same repetitive, worthless walls of alogging text to find the diamond in the rough.

Okay now we can go back to bitching about the Frogiarchy and everyone can show us on the Nerkish doll where they were touched.
 
The narrative is always THE most important thing. Journalism and Doxing both serve it. It's not primarily a news thread. Sorry Smug!

But to answer your question:
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And to repeat, now that everybody's proven they have the revolutionary ability to produce comics outside the mainstream (and they're so based for doing it) where's the product?

Could it be we're being sold a Narrative™ that doesn't line up?
 
Newman's really trying with the "WC was shut down because they questioned Dynamite" narrative. But Gat Hanzo was dealing that one to whoever would listen way back last year; it's not the most original creation if I'm to be honest.

War Campaign imploded, at least with me, because:

1. The "Lords and Peasants" meme, trying to create class resentment in other CG creators
2. Endlessly going after Anna's silly Vampirella cover which lead to
3. The ugly and inhuman memes about Anna's deceased sister
4. Demanding I stop Jon Malin and Cecil from "lying" (i.e. calling out WC about their activities regarding Anna) on my show which lead to
5. The ultimatum, "it's them or us." (In other words, stop Cecil and Malin from talking about War Campaign disparagingly on YouTube, or we're not supporting your campaigns anymore)

I asked Ro to put a halt to all of these things, and he refused. And then Pan announced WC wasn't going to support me any longer, and that was it.

At that point, I told my audience I wouldn't be promoting WC projects any longer, and I'd pull my support from their CGJumpstart magazine. Anyone who was WC who wanted to "defect" was welcome, but loyal WC was getting pushed out to sea.

All of this was their choice. They effectively shut themselves down.
 
War Campaign imploded, at least with me, because:

1. The "Lords and Peasants" meme, trying to create class resentment in other CG creators
2. Endlessly going after Anna's silly Vampirella cover which lead to
3. The ugly and inhuman memes about Anna's deceased sister
4. Demanding I stop Jon Malin and Cecil from "lying" (i.e. calling out WC about their activities regarding Anna) on my show which lead to
5. The ultimatum, "it's them or us." (In other words, stop Cecil and Malin from talking about War Campaign disparagingly on YouTube, or we're not supporting your campaigns anymore)

I asked Ro to put a halt to all of these things, and he refused. And then Pan announced WC wasn't going to support me any longer, and that was it.

At that point, I told my audience I wouldn't be promoting WC projects any longer, and I'd pull my support from their CGJumpstart magazine. Anyone who was WC who wanted to "defect" was welcome, but loyal WC was getting pushed out to sea.

All of this was their choice. They effectively shut themselves down.
I temporarily ditched your YouTube channel, along a number of others, during the War Campaign era.

There is always drama; of course there is. With WC it felt like a calculated move to push the histrionics centre stage. There was an ongoing game of Battleships in progress, with various creators and hangers-on attempting to sink each other with libel and with ops so gay, that it would require a nine-coloured rainbow, emblazoned across a pair of studded, leather cowboy chaps, to do them justice. For a while it seemed as if ComicsGate was going to willingly harness itself to the Internet Bloodsports model of initial high returns, followed by a long tail of acrimony and irreparably broken friendships. In the midst of all that, the comics assumed a background role.

I re-subscribed to your channel after the troublemakers had exited the stage. You make entertaining content, plus I have a professional interest in observing the impact of frog herpes upon the human genome. There are some channels that I never went back to.

Ya Boi Zack tells the story of a pizza place that he used to frequent, where one of the waitresses was so obnoxious (not to him, but to other patrons of the restaurant) that eventually he stopped eating there.

ComicsGate learned the heard way: Don't row in front of your customers.
 
Newman's really trying with the "WC was shut down because they questioned Dynamite" narrative. But Gat Hanzo was dealing that one to whoever would listen way back last year; it's not the most original creation if I'm to be honest.
There are a lot of details we may disagree with but I think his main point is that WC was used when they were beneficial and did Frog's dirty work and were discarded when it became convenient for him. This I feel is 100% true. For a year or two, they were an absolute shitshow and it was laughed off until it managed to bite everyone in the ass, including E. You can take your pick of culprits if you go by his creative deflections. The attack on Anna was the main thing and I don't remember if it was Ethan or someone else who revealed that it was Dynamite's idea to use her, or even the extent to which Ethan had been working with Dynamite up to that point. It came out at about the same time. There were valid criticisms to be made about using Dynamite and using Anna, but of course WC couldn't manage to do it without trying to burn the entire house down. I felt they had only upped their ante because Ethan raised their stock himself by allowing them to become bonafide creators (through Ro) with Vintage.

To a small degree I don't blame Ethan for the whole mess. He's like the BMOC who gets all the attention and lost the ability to say no to a pretty face. He both uses and gets used. What does the word "friend" really mean when you're making upwards of seven figures? It didn't mean much to begin with when he was calling Waid his "friend" in that fateful interview. But what am I saying, what a-log would want to keep track of something like that? Silly dilly!

Now Ro and WC and the gayops are gone. Great! It's time to celebrate our current phase. Let's begin the countdown for how low your expectations can possibly go with little to distract from them but more crowdfunders in the Year of A-Log 2021. Liam needs to come back, Martina isn't cutting it!

War Campaign imploded, at least with me, because:

1. The "Lords and Peasants" meme, trying to create class resentment in other CG creators
2. Endlessly going after Anna's silly Vampirella cover which lead to
3. The ugly and inhuman memes about Anna's deceased sister
4. Demanding I stop Jon Malin and Cecil from "lying" (i.e. calling out WC about their activities regarding Anna) on my show which lead to
5. The ultimatum, "it's them or us." (In other words, stop Cecil and Malin from talking about War Campaign disparagingly on YouTube, or we're not supporting your campaigns anymore)

I asked Ro to put a halt to all of these things, and he refused. And then Pan announced WC wasn't going to support me any longer, and that was it.

At that point, I told my audience I wouldn't be promoting WC projects any longer, and I'd pull my support from their CGJumpstart magazine. Anyone who was WC who wanted to "defect" was welcome, but loyal WC was getting pushed out to sea.

All of this was their choice. They effectively shut themselves down.
1. Ro and WC were a part of your inner circle because of their willingness to slam your enemies and generate hype, all talk of gayops aside. Ironically or tragically, they were also the only ones who insisted on a certain level of quality, which had you been a better brand manager yourself would have saved a lot of money for a lot of people. It would have prevented people who had no business in the business from scamming your pool of customers. To be somewhat fair, the decision to upgrade your 'Gate with more industry vets partially addresses the problem, but the professionalism of others won't help that much if you let your own IP rot on the vine with unfulfilled and underwhelming product like Your Soi NarZack.

2 & 3. Endlessy, obnoxiously, and sick, but that was their MO for everything. You raised fighting dogs then try to blame them when you invite one of the neighborhood kids to sell cookies on your front lawn and they rip her apart.

4 & 5. So if we took one item off the plate from that list, say Pan's announcement, are you telling us you wouldn't have pulled the trigger? If only one of these things had happened without the rest of it, would you still have done the CGJumpstart? For every choice they made along the way, you made two. A leader who doesn't act until the damage is done isn't much of a leader and a guy who lets his friends take the fall for him isn't much of a friend.

In the off chance you don't have me on block: why didn't you stick to your initial departure from CG in 2019?
 
Can anyone explain why Frog using Dynamite's printing or distribution resources is considered scandalous by some? To me it seems like a no-brainer to leverage an existing local relationship for printing or distribution if you're lucky enough to have that opportunity. Is it suspicion of some devious plot for CG to become a subsidiary of Dynamite or something?
 
The narrative is always THE most important thing. Journalism and Doxing both serve it. It's not primarily a news thread. Sorry Smug!
This thread has gone to absolute shit because you and the Newman faggots cannot stop jacking off your EVS hate boners. I have seen interesting shit - most notably the lulz surrounding Re-Writing Ripley get absolutely swallowed by pages of inane fucking bitching about Frog Man bad. There are very obviously no mods looking at this thread, because at he very least, you and Newman's Own need to be banished to the Hanger On's thread so something interesting can be posted on this thread without it being swallowed the fuck up with pages of REEE ETHAN REEEE.

Nobody cares. If Ethan's every breath is such an absolute assault on the fibers of your being that you have to shit up anything interesting with your retarded ass a-logging, may I suggest suicide. Ethan won't bother you anymore, we won't be bothered anymore, and I've got a strong feeling that none of you faggots will be missed anywhere else either. Please kill yourselves.
 
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Can anyone explain why Frog using Dynamite's printing or distribution resources is considered scandalous by some? To me it seems like a no-brainer to leverage an existing local relationship for printing or distribution if you're lucky enough to have that opportunity. Is it suspicion of some devious plot for CG to become a subsidiary of Dynamite or something?

To me, the only ones who didn’t like the Dynamite deal were the sjw’s and WC. WC didn’t like it because they felt that Dynamite was letting Anna who had no professional comic book experience get her foot in the door with her Vampirella cover while their comic Vestige 2 wasn’t getting that much attention. So it was a matter of jealousy which was amplified even more when Cecil got a cover deal, which we all know was scrapped. But that was more due to Dynamite bending the knee to SJWs.

I’m guessing Dynamite did not like all the drama associated with CG or they would indeed still be dealing with them.
 
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War Campaign imploded, at least with me, because:

1. The "Lords and Peasants" meme, trying to create class resentment in other CG creators
2. Endlessly going after Anna's silly Vampirella cover which lead to
3. The ugly and inhuman memes about Anna's deceased sister
4. Demanding I stop Jon Malin and Cecil from "lying" (i.e. calling out WC about their activities regarding Anna) on my show which lead to
5. The ultimatum, "it's them or us." (In other words, stop Cecil and Malin from talking about War Campaign disparagingly on YouTube, or we're not supporting your campaigns anymore)

I asked Ro to put a halt to all of these things, and he refused. And then Pan announced WC wasn't going to support me any longer, and that was it.

At that point, I told my audience I wouldn't be promoting WC projects any longer, and I'd pull my support from their CGJumpstart magazine. Anyone who was WC who wanted to "defect" was welcome, but loyal WC was getting pushed out to sea.

All of this was their choice. They effectively shut themselves down.
And ComicsGate has been so wonderful without them. I've had zero problems at all, everything is just love and comics and good times now, super glad you did the right thing and distanced yourself from them. Looks like it's paying off for you too.
 
Going over the past over and over and over again and looking for different answers from me than the ones I've consistently given is boring the piss out of everyone here.

There are no different answers. Go back and read this thread and refresh your memory.

You're allowed to disagree with how I've managed shitheads on YouTube for the past 4 years if you want. But things seem to be better now.
 
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Can anyone explain why Frog using Dynamite's printing or distribution resources is considered scandalous by some? To me it seems like a no-brainer to leverage an existing local relationship for printing or distribution if you're lucky enough to have that opportunity. Is it suspicion of some devious plot for CG to become a subsidiary of Dynamite or something?
It was a forbidden love that dare not speak its name. Nick Barrucci had been "advising" Ethan in regards to publishing since 2018. Dynamite published other SJW "talent" which contradicted not only good sense but the CG brand specifically. That was why it was probably kept on the downlow as long as it was. The financial benefit outweighed the fake idealism: Ethan was learning everything he could about independent publishing and Nick had an opportunity to court the CG audience. The backlash wasn't only on the CG front, a few of the aforementioned SJWs (Karla Pacheco, Mark Russell, Christian Ward) on Dynamite's side threatened to cut loose as well. Don't know if any of them actually did.

Here's a statement Dynamite released shortly after the fallout:

"Dynamite Entertainment is a partner in the fight for equality and inclusion. Our company was founded on these core values more than 15 years ago and they are essential to the creative process – the work of visionary artists and entrepreneurs – that we are passionate about. Intolerance has no place in our company or our industry. The impulse behind this brief association was that of helping a friend of many decades and his family, and not how that assistance could potentially affect our valued colleagues, partners, and friends. That association is behind us and this time has strengthened our resolve to continue working with the most diverse talent in creating the best comics possible."

I don't interpret this as suddenly both sides realized what they really stood for. Ethan and Nick weren't stupid, they just pushed their respective bases too far. It's about the shekels.

This thread has gone to absolute shit because you and the Newman faggots can't keep jacking off your EVS hate boner. I have seen interesting shit - most notably the lulz surrounding Re-Writing Ripley get absolutely swallowed by pages of inane fucking bitching about Frog Man bad. There are very obviously no mods looking at this thread, because at he very least, you and Newman's Own need to be banished to the Hanger On's thread so something interesting can be posted on this thread without it being swallowed the fuck up with pages of REEE ETHAN REEEE.

Nobody cares. If Ethan's every breath is such an absolute assault on the fibers of your being that you have to shit up anything interesting with your retarded ass a-logging, may I suggest suicide. Ethan won't bother you anymore, we won't be bothered anymore, and I've got a strong feeling that none of you faggots will be missed anywhere else either. Please kill yourselves.
The thread is fine that was 5 months ago and Rewriting Ripley was only tangentially connected with Funny Books (via FM) which might be the reason you don't see much interest in it here. Ethan is the biggest name in the group, he ought to receive the most scrutiny. Don't look at me like I separated you from your money. But if you gotta zap to the extreme bud, don't let me stop you.

Going over the past over and over and over again and looking for different answers from me than the ones I've consistently given is boring the piss out of everyone here.

There are no different answers. Go back and read this thread and refresh your memory.

You're allowed to disagree with how I've managed shitheads on YouTube for the past 4 years if you want.
I agree! We plebs need to slavishly watch every second of your multi-hour gloat streams before we get to the truth. How else are we going to gunt-guard you? It's sheer hubris in seeking answers elsewhere! I'm glad you cleared that up.

Rekt Planet when?
Cashgrab when?
Brutas when?

Thanks again for promoting that game-changer Red Rooster!
 
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