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@Nicholas II of Russia , I'll try this, my replies in bold...
Everybody remember the Chris Benoit double homicide-suicide case that shocked the entire wrestling world and gave a great impact to the business in general. When Chris did the horrible crime of killing his family and then killing himself in a three day lapse. However, when someone looks the time to see all of the details about the murder and especially how the investigation was handled that makes the entire situation very creepy and even suspicious. There are a lot of weird details about the case that are talked about and other that are not so talked about but are still very weird.
The first and most popular weird detail. The Wikipedia article that was edited hours before his death. It was posted in the midnight of July 23, 2007, the day of his death. The article was edited out in a very detailed way on what happened, giving this description:
To make this even more weirder is that the IP of the poster who did the edit was from Stamford, Connecticut, the same place where the WWE Headquarters are. Which led to believe that the entire company knew about the murders 14 hours before it happened, some even believe that this was caused by someone within the company. And for some strange reason, this entire coincidence was entirely dismissed by the Fayette County police, no reason given why.
The author of the post said:
This is the most compelling thing, to me, about this case. And the one that makes the most suspicious. You mean to tell me, that of all the things they could have used for speculation, the death of Chris'' wife and son is what they went with?
This is one of the many reasons that were made suspicious about what happened, but it was not enough to prove anything, but like I said, when you read more and more about the incident, the more weird and suspicious it gets. Here's a list of many weird details that happened in the investigation and that supposedly happened during the murders.
- Chavo Guerrero – a close friend of Benoit- told WWE magazine that he talked to Chris for while on Friday night on his house phone. About 45 minutes into the conversation, Chris told him that there was somebody knocking at his door and he was going to see who it was. Shortly after Chris answered the door, there was a “scuffle” and then his house phone line went dead. Chris could only be reached on his cell phone about 3 hours later. This is very significant. This explains why there was no forced entry. Chris apparently knew these people and let them in.
I don't remember Chavo mentioning this part. Cite?
- After Chavo reached Chis on his cell phone, he said that Chris sounded very odd, groggy and tired. He also said that Chris told him “I Love You Chavo” which sounded forced. The WWE also said that when Chris called in and told them that Nancy and Daniel were sick he did not sound like himself. He sounded groggy. Chris then said “I Love You” which they say was out of context because he usually didn’t say this.
People not in their right minds often say or do things out of character for them, like murder their family.
- Chris Benoit and Nancy's cellphones were confiscated by the police, and they were never recovered after the investigation. The supposed steroid needles that Benoit used hours before the murders were missing too, they were never recovered and there isn't even evidence that existed.
The bolded part seems irrelevant.
- Chris was not hanging from the weight machine like the official report said he was, he was laying on the floor underneath the machine. Another officer said that Benoit was “slumped” against the weight machine.
Never heard this. I had always read that Chris was hanging from the cable.
- There was a white cloth wrapped around Chris’ neck. If he was so suicidal why would he care if his neck was bruised?
Maybe to make the force applied to his neck greater to ensure death? I don't own a weight machine, nor have I ever tried to hang myself, so I'm a bit out of my depth here.
- The medical examiner says that Chris Benoit died on Saturday. The text messages were sent on Sunday. Chris was already dead so who sent the text messages? It is noted that nobody talked to Chris on Sunday.
Cite?
- The pills and steroids that were found in Chris' house were not in his body in the autopsy.
Seems irrelevant.
- Chris sent Chavo a text message telling him his address. Chavo already knew were Chris lived. He spent the previous weekend with him.
Probably to alert whomever got the message that Chris could be found at his home address, rather than on the road on the way to wherever he was due to wrestle.
- Chris’ body was badly de- composed, about the same as Nancy’s. This shows he died sooner than Sunday.
Cite? never heard this.
- Chavo said that in the weeks before his death, Chris Benoit seemed “worried” about something but he could not get Chris to open up and tell him why he was worried.
- There is a rumour that he was searching in Google something called The Lazarus Ritual, something about reviving corpses after death, presumably after his family's death. This was confirmed as false though.
- There were 10 empty beer cans and an empty body of wine besides Chris’ body. He tested negative for alcohol.
The alcohol could have been consumed before all this began.
- The toxicology confirmed that Chris had Hydrocodone (pain killer) Xanex (anti-anxiety drug). I have used both of these. These 2 drugs combined will sedate Chris and make him very sleepy. He probably wouldn't be in a murderous rage during the time of the crime.
That might explain why he waited a day to murder his son after murdering his wife then waiting another day to off himself instead of doing it all at once in a fit of rage.
- The police originally said that Daniel died on Friday because his body was badly de-composing. This supports my belief that all 3 died on Friday night. The police changed the manner of Daniel’s death 3 times. 1st he died from a garbage bag, 2nd he died from a choke hold, 3rd he was smothered by a pillow. This is where the details regarding the police investigation get very sloppy.
never read this. Cite?
- The police kept changing the location of where Nancy’s body was found. 1st she was found in the downstairs family room, 2nd she was found in the upstairs bedroom, 3rd she was found in the house office.
I seem to remember the reports, at the time, being fairly consistent. Cite?
- Chris’ father said that Chris called him on father’s day and told him that he wished he could spend more time with his family but he had to work. One of Nancy’s friend says that Nancy Loved Chris and she had no plans to leave him.
Things can very well go on very normally in life, before disaster happens, even in murder-suicide. There is nothing strange or unusual with this.
- Kevin Sullivan (Nancy's ex-husband and main suspect) told Chris Benoit that he would kill him. Kevin is currently a high ranking member of a satanic cult. Kevin is also on the WWE Board of Directors. Kevin Sullivan also had motive to kill Daniel Benoit because he was Chris and Nancy’s offspring. Retired wrestler Dusty Rhodes said that “he danced with the devil” when working with Kevin Sullivan who is known as being Cold-hearted and conniving. The Benoit family was murdered on the 10-year anniversary of Nancy’s divorce from Kevin Sullivan.
This is all conspiratard bullshit. marks getting worked by Kevin's Gimmick, lol.
- Weeks before he died, Chris Benoit’s colleagues said that Chris began taking alternate routes to and from work and back to his house. Chris and Nancy believed that somebody was following them. Chris’ friends dismissed his worries as paranoia.
If his brain was deteriorating, this might not be so unusual.
- In one of the edits from the Wikipedia article about Chris Benoit, there was another very strange prediction about his death, giving the detail that a knife was below the son's bed, there is photos about the case saying that there was in fact a knife below Daniel's bed, althought it is not known if the photos are legit.
- It's been said that Benoit had the brain of an 80 year old with Alzheimers. But it was never even stated how the roster or the company didn't know about this.
Chances are this is an exaggeration to drive CTE hype, and/or, slightly soften the blow of a beloved wrestler murdering his family. Even if this were true, brain damage does not affect everyone in the exact same way. His brain could have been a mess, but functioning well enough for Chris to get through life somewhat normally.
When you look more at the details, the case seems more like an entire homicide of a family, instead of a double-murder suicide.
Maybe, but a great deal of this sounds like typical conspiracy nonsense. I wasn't paying attention to wrestling at the time, but my youngest son was. Raw was on the TV when the news of this was breaking, and there was so much coverage at the time, it fascinated me. I've read up a good bit over the years, and most of what you posted, I haven't heard.
Everybody remember the Chris Benoit double homicide-suicide case that shocked the entire wrestling world and gave a great impact to the business in general. When Chris did the horrible crime of killing his family and then killing himself in a three day lapse. However, when someone looks the time to see all of the details about the murder and especially how the investigation was handled that makes the entire situation very creepy and even suspicious. There are a lot of weird details about the case that are talked about and other that are not so talked about but are still very weird.
The first and most popular weird detail. The Wikipedia article that was edited hours before his death. It was posted in the midnight of July 23, 2007, the day of his death. The article was edited out in a very detailed way on what happened, giving this description:
- “Chris Benoit was replaced by Johnny Nitro for the ECW Championship match at Vengeance, as Benoit was not there due to personal issues, stemming from the death of his wife Nancy.”
https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Chris_Benoit
To make this even more weirder is that the IP of the poster who did the edit was from Stamford, Connecticut, the same place where the WWE Headquarters are. Which led to believe that the entire company knew about the murders 14 hours before it happened, some even believe that this was caused by someone within the company. And for some strange reason, this entire coincidence was entirely dismissed by the Fayette County police, no reason given why.
The author of the post said:
The author of the entry explained that he, along with thousands of other wrestling fans, were speculating about what “personal reasons” may have caused Chris Benoit to miss scheduled WWE events on Saturday and Sunday and latched onto a rumor online that Nancy Benoit had died, ultimately deciding to post the rumor as “fact” on Wikipedia.
This is the most compelling thing, to me, about this case. And the one that makes the most suspicious. You mean to tell me, that of all the things they could have used for speculation, the death of Chris'' wife and son is what they went with?
This is one of the many reasons that were made suspicious about what happened, but it was not enough to prove anything, but like I said, when you read more and more about the incident, the more weird and suspicious it gets. Here's a list of many weird details that happened in the investigation and that supposedly happened during the murders.
- Chavo Guerrero – a close friend of Benoit- told WWE magazine that he talked to Chris for while on Friday night on his house phone. About 45 minutes into the conversation, Chris told him that there was somebody knocking at his door and he was going to see who it was. Shortly after Chris answered the door, there was a “scuffle” and then his house phone line went dead. Chris could only be reached on his cell phone about 3 hours later. This is very significant. This explains why there was no forced entry. Chris apparently knew these people and let them in.
I don't remember Chavo mentioning this part. Cite?
- After Chavo reached Chis on his cell phone, he said that Chris sounded very odd, groggy and tired. He also said that Chris told him “I Love You Chavo” which sounded forced. The WWE also said that when Chris called in and told them that Nancy and Daniel were sick he did not sound like himself. He sounded groggy. Chris then said “I Love You” which they say was out of context because he usually didn’t say this.
People not in their right minds often say or do things out of character for them, like murder their family.
- Chris Benoit and Nancy's cellphones were confiscated by the police, and they were never recovered after the investigation. The supposed steroid needles that Benoit used hours before the murders were missing too, they were never recovered and there isn't even evidence that existed.
The bolded part seems irrelevant.
- Chris was not hanging from the weight machine like the official report said he was, he was laying on the floor underneath the machine. Another officer said that Benoit was “slumped” against the weight machine.
Never heard this. I had always read that Chris was hanging from the cable.
- There was a white cloth wrapped around Chris’ neck. If he was so suicidal why would he care if his neck was bruised?
Maybe to make the force applied to his neck greater to ensure death? I don't own a weight machine, nor have I ever tried to hang myself, so I'm a bit out of my depth here.
- The medical examiner says that Chris Benoit died on Saturday. The text messages were sent on Sunday. Chris was already dead so who sent the text messages? It is noted that nobody talked to Chris on Sunday.
Cite?
- The pills and steroids that were found in Chris' house were not in his body in the autopsy.
Seems irrelevant.
- Chris sent Chavo a text message telling him his address. Chavo already knew were Chris lived. He spent the previous weekend with him.
Probably to alert whomever got the message that Chris could be found at his home address, rather than on the road on the way to wherever he was due to wrestle.
- Chris’ body was badly de- composed, about the same as Nancy’s. This shows he died sooner than Sunday.
Cite? never heard this.
- Chavo said that in the weeks before his death, Chris Benoit seemed “worried” about something but he could not get Chris to open up and tell him why he was worried.
- There is a rumour that he was searching in Google something called The Lazarus Ritual, something about reviving corpses after death, presumably after his family's death. This was confirmed as false though.
- There were 10 empty beer cans and an empty body of wine besides Chris’ body. He tested negative for alcohol.
The alcohol could have been consumed before all this began.
- The toxicology confirmed that Chris had Hydrocodone (pain killer) Xanex (anti-anxiety drug). I have used both of these. These 2 drugs combined will sedate Chris and make him very sleepy. He probably wouldn't be in a murderous rage during the time of the crime.
That might explain why he waited a day to murder his son after murdering his wife then waiting another day to off himself instead of doing it all at once in a fit of rage.
- The police originally said that Daniel died on Friday because his body was badly de-composing. This supports my belief that all 3 died on Friday night. The police changed the manner of Daniel’s death 3 times. 1st he died from a garbage bag, 2nd he died from a choke hold, 3rd he was smothered by a pillow. This is where the details regarding the police investigation get very sloppy.
never read this. Cite?
- The police kept changing the location of where Nancy’s body was found. 1st she was found in the downstairs family room, 2nd she was found in the upstairs bedroom, 3rd she was found in the house office.
I seem to remember the reports, at the time, being fairly consistent. Cite?
- Chris’ father said that Chris called him on father’s day and told him that he wished he could spend more time with his family but he had to work. One of Nancy’s friend says that Nancy Loved Chris and she had no plans to leave him.
Things can very well go on very normally in life, before disaster happens, even in murder-suicide. There is nothing strange or unusual with this.
- Kevin Sullivan (Nancy's ex-husband and main suspect) told Chris Benoit that he would kill him. Kevin is currently a high ranking member of a satanic cult. Kevin is also on the WWE Board of Directors. Kevin Sullivan also had motive to kill Daniel Benoit because he was Chris and Nancy’s offspring. Retired wrestler Dusty Rhodes said that “he danced with the devil” when working with Kevin Sullivan who is known as being Cold-hearted and conniving. The Benoit family was murdered on the 10-year anniversary of Nancy’s divorce from Kevin Sullivan.
This is all conspiratard bullshit. marks getting worked by Kevin's Gimmick, lol.
- Weeks before he died, Chris Benoit’s colleagues said that Chris began taking alternate routes to and from work and back to his house. Chris and Nancy believed that somebody was following them. Chris’ friends dismissed his worries as paranoia.
If his brain was deteriorating, this might not be so unusual.
- In one of the edits from the Wikipedia article about Chris Benoit, there was another very strange prediction about his death, giving the detail that a knife was below the son's bed, there is photos about the case saying that there was in fact a knife below Daniel's bed, althought it is not known if the photos are legit.
- It's been said that Benoit had the brain of an 80 year old with Alzheimers. But it was never even stated how the roster or the company didn't know about this.
Chances are this is an exaggeration to drive CTE hype, and/or, slightly soften the blow of a beloved wrestler murdering his family. Even if this were true, brain damage does not affect everyone in the exact same way. His brain could have been a mess, but functioning well enough for Chris to get through life somewhat normally.
When you look more at the details, the case seems more like an entire homicide of a family, instead of a double-murder suicide.
Maybe, but a great deal of this sounds like typical conspiracy nonsense. I wasn't paying attention to wrestling at the time, but my youngest son was. Raw was on the TV when the news of this was breaking, and there was so much coverage at the time, it fascinated me. I've read up a good bit over the years, and most of what you posted, I haven't heard.
