Creepy Unsolved Mysteries - From unsolved murders to unidentified people to unexplained supernatural events, what are some of the creepiest unsolved mysteries you've ever heard of?

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

I'm surprised the Oslo Hotel death hasn't been mentioned. https://www.lifeinnorway.net/oslo-plaza-hotel-mystery/

I'm short on time so the quick summary is an unidentified woman checks into a hotel, stays a few days, and then is found dead. No clothing labels or proper identification is found. The gunshot has a few problems that could be the result of a murder then crime scene cover up. So why was she killed? If it was indeed a suicide, who eats a few hours before killing themselves? Many questions surround this case that may never be solved.

This happened in 1995 before digital tracking, internet connectivity, and full scale camera surveillance.

I think that was the one where people speculated it might have been a PKK assassination.

 

[everybody in Portugal]

This is a five part story, but what the hell is going on in Bardstown?

You may enjoy this podcast

 

[JamusActimus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annecy_shootings

Still not a clue of what happened and why.

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annecy_shootings

Still not a clue of what happened and why.

I like Pat Brown's theory that it was a local survivalist weapon-obsessed psychopath who committed a thrill kill, and it wasn't personal in any way. All the theories that this was somehow planned fail to explain how the planner/assassin would know exactly where the family was that day. And it's unlikely he would have killed the cyclist while the family was there, if the cyclist was the target he could have killed him at any other time without running the risk of witnesses or being overpowered, plus he ran the risk that more cyclists showed up and he had to kill them too.

Brown's analysis is long, but there's a summary starting around 1:14:10. According to Wiki this is apparently what the police (used to?) believe too, but she bases it on more than just the gun.

 

[JamusActimus]

I like Pat Brown's theory that it was a local survivalist weapon-obsessed psychopath who committed a thrill kill

It was a freak even by psychopaths standards.

The amount of bullets + hitting a little girl with the cross of your weapon after shooting her is ruthless.

Legit top 1% of psychos. Very few could unleash violence in that way and that efficiently.

 

[Rip Bozo]

>materializes into existence
>shoots 75+ gamblers and sexual deviants
>disappears mysteriously without a trace

 

[everybody in Portugal]

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>materializes into existence
>shoots 75+ gamblers and sexual deviants
>disappears mysteriously without a trace

FBI docs on the above [pdf], since @Rip Bozo didn't bother providing a source or any info

 

[Rip Bozo]

FBI docs on the above [pdf], since @Rip Bozo didn't bother providing a source or any info

My source is I made it the fuck up

 

[everybody in Portugal]

My source is I made it the fuck up

That'll make for a very stimulating discussion, then. Nice one.

 

[Rip Bozo]

That'll make for a very stimulating discussion, then. Nice one.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

I'm surprised the Oslo Hotel death hasn't been mentioned. https://www.lifeinnorway.net/oslo-plaza-hotel-mystery/

I'm short on time so the quick summary is an unidentified woman checks into a hotel, stays a few days, and then is found dead. No clothing labels or proper identification is found. The gunshot has a few problems that could be the result of a murder then crime scene cover up. So why was she killed? If it was indeed a suicide, who eats a few hours before killing themselves? Many questions surround this case that may never be solved.

This happened in 1995 before digital tracking, internet connectivity, and full scale camera surveillance.

I've always thought it was an intelligence operative hit. She probably ran afoul of her handlers.

 

[everybody in Portugal]

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I'm not saying no fun, I'm saying put like.. half a sentence about whatever you're talking about so people who don't immediately recognise it from the green text might be able to get a feel for it? Shitposts are great but this thread is way more interesting when we actually talk about cases. The whole LV shooting thing was suuuper sketchy and there are definitely a lot of loose threads to be pulled at there. Did Marilou know why she was sent away? Did his family know more than they have said? &c &c &c...

That said, I was definitely backseat moderating a bit there, so I'll take my puzzle piece with a smile and an apology for having done so, fren.

 

[Grug]

I'm surprised the Oslo Hotel death hasn't been mentioned. https://www.lifeinnorway.net/oslo-plaza-hotel-mystery/

I'm short on time so the quick summary is an unidentified woman checks into a hotel, stays a few days, and then is found dead. No clothing labels or proper identification is found. The gunshot has a few problems that could be the result of a murder then crime scene cover up. So why was she killed? If it was indeed a suicide, who eats a few hours before killing themselves? Many questions surround this case that may never be solved.

This happened in 1995 before digital tracking, internet connectivity, and full scale camera surveillance.

This article was much more informative; I guess it was on some netflix show.
(The article describes a 9mm Browning as "extremely powerful")
I'm not sold on suicide. Have you ever heard of a single normal person who removes their clothes' tags? Ever?
There's also the fake identity and the unidentified man. Honestly I don't know what "the door was double-locked" means, but there's no mention of forcing it open after her death so I must assume it's just some fancy way of saying it was locked.
On the other hand, you'd assume that an international spy, especially one from East Germany would know to pay for their damn hotel room in order to avoid attention.
This other article I just saw also mentions a "Mr. F" from Belgium, who apparently said the hotel asked him about her death when he checked out - a day before she died. I think I know who's responsible.

Spoiler: For Belgian Eyes Only

Seriously though I would be extremely surprised if it eventually turns out that she was a normal person and committed suicide. Both of those things just cannot be true at the same time for this woman. As for why she was killed, who knows? I don't know how to even look for "internationally interesting" things that happened in Oslo 30 years ago, let alone anything that would glow.

 

[everybody in Portugal]

Have you ever heard of a single normal person who removes their clothes' tags? Ever?

Didn't the Somerton Man have all his clothing tags removed? I'm sure there are a few others, my brain is tickling as I read this, but I can't pbring them to mind immediately. Will wdit

Mr. F

Derail-y to some extent but all I can think of now is Arrested Development, lol.

 

[BelUwUga]

I'm not sold on suicide. Have you ever heard of a single normal person who removes their clothes' tags? Ever?

But I remove the tags from my clothes! They're itchy and annoying. Although I guess if I were normal I wouldn't be here. Negro-Fluorescents do this to obscure where their clothes came from.

Honestly I don't know what "the door was double-locked" means, but there's no mention of forcing it open after her death so I must assume it's just some fancy way of saying it was locked.

Hotels frequently have "swing bar" locks that can be used from the inside but are not meant to be unlockable from the outside. It's meant to give guests a sense of security given that hotel personnel also have key copies for the other locks. They are also laughably easy to bypass with a thin plastic shim, like a "do not disturb" sign. In a similar way one can use a rubber band, shoelace, or piece of string to deploy the lock from outside the door when they leave. Perhaps to give the appearance someone committed suicide alone when the reality is they were plugged by someone else.

 

[GrammaNazi]

I definitely think that the Oslo woman was murdered. The DNA testing showed a possible East Germany ancestry and the Berlin Wall had fallen only 6 years earlier. She may have been a spy, or at least had some sensitive information.

There was a small time frame of 15 minutes from security hearing a gunshot in the room, to the head of security opening the door and finding her dead. A trained secret agent could clean up their tracks and escape during that time. The other piece of evidence that screams "murder" to me is the gunshot and blood. The woman was lying on her back on the bed when shot, as the bullet went through her forehead, through the bed, and lodged in the floor. Blood was found on the pillow sheets, side table, walls, and even the ceiling, yet nothing was on her hands. No blood and no gunshot residue. I don't think that happens from a suicide shot.

I found a page that has more details including time frames, neighbors in the hotel, the fake info she gave, and the crime scene photos. https://nieuwsblad.be/extra/static/2017/longread/201710_oslo_plaza_mystery/index.html

 

[Cheesegirl78]

This is a five part story, but what the hell is going on in Bardstown?

I fell down the rabbit hole with this one, very interesting. Thanks for posting it.

Sounds like the crooked cop and his brother know more than they admit.

 

[Grug]

Didn't the Somerton Man have all his clothing tags removed?

Negro-Fluorescents do this to obscure where their clothes came from.

That's what I was thinking but in honesty I did not consider itchy tags, which can afflict normal people.

"swing bar" locks

In the VR recreation made by VG, and this is the only inside view of the door "from that time" that I could find immediately, the room does not seem to have any wall-mounted lock - but it's possible there was one on the actual room in 1995. Modern photos show a type of lock that I'm not familiar with:

Spoiler

That's either a chain, or hopefully not, a rod with a hook on the end, which fits in a loop on the door; commonly used to keep windows a little bit open.

In any case there's still no mention of forcing the door open. It's possible the door could have had a swing or chain lock and open just enough to arouse suspicion without being able to see a body on the bed, but that seems like a stretch. I take this as a sign that the "double lock" was a manual lock mounted on the door, as shown in VG's recreation, to which staff had key access.

There was a small time frame of 15 minutes from security hearing a gunshot in the room, to the head of security opening the door and finding her dead. A trained secret agent could clean up their tracks and escape during that time.

I found a page that has more details including time frames, neighbors in the hotel, the fake info she gave, and the crime scene photos. https://nieuwsblad.be/extra/static/2017/longread/201710_oslo_plaza_mystery/index.html

If only the security guard had radioed for backup, instead of going back down to reception.

Spoiler: Retarded ramblings

The more I think about it though, it seems like such a gamble for the person inside the room to potentially turn a welfare check into an armed standoff - after all, (he) couldn't have known the guard would be unarmed, that he would leave the floor, for how long, etc.

My expert theory, after two days of even knowing about this case at all:

She was an intelligence agent with a rudimentary Belgian villager backstory, which maybe she couldn't recall accurately, and left the room on Thursday to complete some mission. Both maids affirm the room was empty when they cleaned it just past noon on Thursday, and made the bed for one person. She may have brought the pillow with her to mask a gunshot, and then brought the pillow and empty casing back later. Either way she returned to the room on Friday morning. A few hours later, the door was opened from the outside.

Friday evening she ordered and took delivery of a light meal, but according to the coroner, she died on Saturday and had not digested the food, meaning she did not eat it on Friday. In the meantime a few items from the minibar were opened by someone.

After she died the bed was found made up for two, but messy, indicating there was a struggle. When the guard knocked on the door just before 8 PM, she didn't have time to call out for help before she was shot. (It would make negative sense to shoot the pillow at this point if she was already dead.) The killer(s) scrambled to stage the scene; after all, no one had seen them in the room. By sheer luck, there were no witnesses in the hall, the door was quickly "double locked" from the outside, and the staircase nearby let anyone make an unseen escape. Due to technological, procedural and investigative shortcomings, little concrete evidence is found and the killer(s) get away with it forever.

 

[everybody in Portugal]

In the VR recreation made by VG, and this is the only inside view of the door "from that time" that I could find immediately, the room does not seem to have any wall-mounted lock - but it's possible there was one on the actual room in 1995. Modern photos show a type of lock that I'm not familiar with:

In the UK, and possibly also in other parts of Europe, 'double locked' can mean as simple as a door like this one which will 'click' closed so the handle has to open it (single locked) but also have a second turnable or otherwise lockable element to it, such as the little bit in the middle that I've circled in the pic below:

Spoiler: the 'double' lock

sometimes it will refer to a door with two locks but often colloquially it will just refer to the secondary security feature such as this. Snicking the door closed so it clicks and will not reopen on its own or by wind or push force alone would be 'locking' it in this sense even if the handle could still be depressed to open it from one or both sides, but you would ask, for instance, "is the door double-locked" to mean "have you turned the lock bit of the lock so it's actually secure" in these cases.

Maybe (likely) it means something else in the translation in this case, but it's a quirk of UK English that it could also mean something like I have inelegantly explained above, too. That's what I initially assumed it to mean when you first mentioned it, anyway.

 

[Grug]

In the UK, and possibly also in other parts of Europe, 'double locked' can mean as simple as a door like this one which will 'click' closed so the handle has to open it (single locked) but also have a second turnable or otherwise lockable element to it, such as the little bit in the middle that I've circled in the pic below:

You might be right. The recreation refers to it as "security-locked (sikkerhetslåst)" from the inside, and if the picture is an accurate representation of the actual door at the time then the mechanism must be similar to what you describe. It's been a while since I last stayed in a hotel, but such a lock is usually possible to activate by (turning the lock or whatever) while the door is open (double open), is it not?