Cry of the Wizard: A love(less) Story

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Re: Wizardchan

Dr. Cuddlebug said:
teheviltwin said:
He doesn't have empathy. Just a misplaced conscience due to naivete. Plugging your fingers in your ears about how the guy threatens women, assaults men with his car and causes sexual harassment does crazy things to a person.

Being empathetic to Our Pet Lolcow is like being empathetic to a person who steals your car stereo, but he's autistic bro it wasn't his fault that now he can't find a job.

But then they are wizards. So they have no empathy for the poor women evil succubi that Chris harasses.
 
Wizardchan

Dr. Cuddlebug said:
As much as you guys champion how righteous Wizardchan is, the fact of the matter is it features posts that are sympathetic to pedophiles, necrophiliacs and has posted gifs featuring bestiality. While you might claim "oh that's just a vocal minority" the fact of the matter is it gets to the point where it happens more than once. The pedophile thread is the second time I've seen posts sympathetic to it, and I'm predicting there will be a third. If you wanted to improve the site maybe you should actually try making posts on there stating that sick shit like pedophilia and bestiality shouldn't be tolerated.

What's that? You're too chickenshit and afraid of getting banned for subversive "normalfag ideas"? Thought so.

Censoring what people are allowed to talk about creates a stifling atmosphere and drives away users. There's also the questions of "what gets banned" and "where does it stop". When offensive topics come up, you get the pro's posting, and the anti's posting. Without IDs or names, which nobody on wizardchan wants, there's really no way to know how many pedos there are. I can tell you, though, there are usually more anti posts than pro posts.
 
Re: Wizardchan

Dr. Cuddlebug said:
CatParty said:
Don't wizards view suicide as noble? Must be pretty bad to be a wizard who is too much of a pussy to commit suicide.
There was that one post I linked where a Wizard stated it was "the most courageous act"


More courageous than visiting "rival boards"?
 
Re: Wizardchan

Misbun Sidek said:
I can tell you, though, there are usually more anti posts than pro posts.
That's why there are posts asking where the pedophile thread went, why there have been more than two already and why it's a reoccurring trend to see posts with very heinous extremely sexual deviant shit on it.

Also "Where does it stop?"

How about at shit that gets you put in jail if you even save it to your harddrive?
 
Re: Wizardchan

On the topic of Chris not finding a job because of the CWCki: That's just bullocks. The type of patron that would bother to do this kind of check on Chris would be for a job that Chris would probably never really be qualified for. There's tons of jobs that he could do, with patrons that would probably not take something like the CWCiki seriously.

Chris doesn't attempt to get a job or bring some sort of income into the house because of reasons that have been discussed to death already. (The tugboat, he's lazy, he's entitled, yadda yadda yadda). He might not think it's ideal to live with his mom and stay in the house all day, but if it didn't affect his ability to meet girls and make friends? He'd be content with the life style.

Now on the subject of NEET... Chris himself is a good example of the negative aspects that can arise from living in such a life style. I'm sure that there are a lot of NEETs who aren't in their current situation by choice, and aren't mentally disturbed individuals. However, living in such a way can detatch you and make you fester in your own thoughts. This is how you end up with "ALL WOMEN ARE EVIL, RAWR!". Chris does the exact same thing, instead of "all women are evil" it's "all people in Ruckersville are snobs".

So yeah, the NEET life style is also a breeding ground for awful individuals. You can try to excuse the behaviours, but you can't really deny that they're there.

((And excuse this post, as I intended to post this a while back.))
 
Re: Wizardchan

Venusaur said:
Chris doesn't attempt to get a job or bring some sort of income into the house because of reasons that have been discussed to death already. (The tugboat, he's lazy, he's entitled, yadda yadda yadda). He might not think it's ideal to live with his mom and stay in the house all day, but if it didn't affect his ability to meet girls and make friends? He'd be content with the life style.
The guy had a woman offer to come over to his house and sleep with him if he cleaned his room.

He's not going to get a job
 
Springblossom said:
CatParty said:
Man, I just read about the depression quest. Wizards are scum.

Well, don't forget, it wasn't all wizards. 4chan and someplace else did a lot of it, but wizardchan got the blame because normies.

But seriously, Hordiungflugsson and other wizard, there's just no defending that. Someone tries to help people suffering from depression, and /v9k/ starts hating on it because 'it was made by an EVUL SUCCUBUS what does she know of depression?!!'. Even if you give wizards the benefit of the doubt and say that most of the raids on Zoe Quinn were made by 4chan and whoever else, there was still a huge thread bashing on her, talking about how they hate her and how she deserves to be raped because she would never sleep with a depressed virgin. That's just...no. You don't do shit like that.


First off, I didn't post in that thread, as I generally try to avoid /v9k/. If every poster in that thread was a unique poster (fat chance), it would only have been about 10% of the site in that thread. The (3 at most) people who said that she deserves to be raped were in the wrong. Wishing rape on people is bad.



Dr. Cuddlebug said:
Misbun Sidek said:
I can tell you, though, there are usually more anti posts than pro posts.
That's why there are posts asking where the pedophile thread went, why there have been more than two already and why it's a reoccurring trend to see posts with very heinous extremely sexual deviant shit on it.

Also "Where does it stop?"

How about at shit that gets you put in jail if you even save it to your harddrive?

Wizardchan already bans material that is illegal under US law. An individual wanted to know where the pedo thread went. His thread got deleted, so he made it again. I think he just wanted closure, not a fap story, which he can get anywhere else on the internet. Of course, I'm not him, so that's just speculation. You would have to ask him, the individual who posted it.
 
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Wizardchan

Misbun Sidek said:
An individual wanted to know where the pedo thread went. His thread got deleted, so he made it again. I think he just wanted closure, not a fap story, which he can get anywhere else on the internet. Of course, I'm not him, so that's just speculation. You would have to ask him, the individual who posted it.

Wrong

http://wizardchan.org/meta/res/11594.html#11594

Ask him yourself,

FYI this thread was posted a while ago, it wasn't deleted. It was moved.
 
Re: Wizardchan

Misbun Sidek said:
Springblossom said:
CatParty said:
Man, I just read about the depression quest. Wizards are scum.

Well, don't forget, it wasn't all wizards. 4chan and someplace else did a lot of it, but wizardchan got the blame because normies.

But seriously, Hordiungflugsson and other wizard, there's just no defending that. Someone tries to help people suffering from depression, and /v9k/ starts hating on it because 'it was made by an EVUL SUCCUBUS what does she know of depression?!!'. Even if you give wizards the benefit of the doubt and say that most of the raids on Zoe Quinn were made by 4chan and whoever else, there was still a huge thread bashing on her, talking about how they hate her and how she deserves to be raped because she would never sleep with a depressed virgin. That's just...no. You don't do shit like that.


First off, I didn't post in that thread, as I generally try to avoid /v9k/. If every poster in that thread was a unique poster (fat chance), it would only have been about 10% of the site in that thread. The (3 at most) people who said that she deserves to be raped were in the wrong. Wishing rape on people is bad.

Satan said:
The environment you claim to cherish is toxic. Get out while you still can.
 
Re: Wizardchan

Dr. Cuddlebug said:
Venusaur said:
Chris doesn't attempt to get a job or bring some sort of income into the house because of reasons that have been discussed to death already. (The tugboat, he's lazy, he's entitled, yadda yadda yadda). He might not think it's ideal to live with his mom and stay in the house all day, but if it didn't affect his ability to meet girls and make friends? He'd be content with the life style.
The guy had a woman offer to come over to his house and sleep with him if he cleaned his room.

He's not going to get a job


Hunger is an amazing motivator.

I never really argued that you're stopping Chris from getting a job now, because I know that he's not even looking for one right now. My argument was (and is) that the cwcki would prevent him from getting a job in the event that SSDI (the tugboat) ever went away.
 
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Misbun Sidek said:
I never really argued that you're stopping Chris from getting a job now, because I know that he's not even looking for one right now. My argument was (and is) that the cwcki would prevent him from getting a job in the event that SSDI (the tugboat) ever went away.
He's not going to look for a job even if he's homeless. This is a man who's shower still has evidence of him wiping it with a sponge on camera close to 10 years prior. This is a man who had 10 years to get himself out of the position he's in.

Autism isn't an excuse, I'm sorry but it isn't. There are thousands of instances of autistic individuals who have jobs and live on their own, many who are lower functioning than OPL.
 
Re: Wizardchan

CatParty said:
No one here trolls Chris.
I feel like this needs to be emphasized a little.

99% of the members on this forum don't troll Chris. The discussion about him here is akin to people discussing the ridiculous antics of a celebrity. The only real difference between the obsessive coverage of everything the average pop star does and this forum is that Chris isn't really famous. Hell, one of the main rules of this forum is that nobody is to make any trolling plans. Members who do typically get banned. You guys probably should have checked that before you made blanket assumptions about everyone who frequents this forum, something you seem to ironically really like to accuse us of doing. Might want to check your own complexion before calling the kettle black, if you know what I mean.
 
Re: Wizardchan

Rio said:
CatParty said:
No one here trolls Chris.
I feel like this needs to be emphasized a little.

99% of the members on this forum don't troll Chris. The discussion about him here is akin to people discussing the ridiculous antics of a celebrity. The only real difference between the obsessive coverage of everything the average pop star does and this forum is that Chris isn't really famous. Hell, one of the main rules of this forum is that nobody is to make any trolling plans. Members who do typically get banned. You guys probably should have checked that before you made blanket assumptions about everyone who frequents this forum, something you seem to ironically really like to accuse us of doing. Might want to check your own complexion before calling the kettle black, if you know what I mean.

I think he finds the very act we document anything about him worse than Hitler. Because he's autistic and needs to be protected incase his own laziness comes to bite him in the ass.
 
Re: Wizardchan

Dr. Cuddlebug said:
Rio said:
CatParty said:
No one here trolls Chris.
I feel like this needs to be emphasized a little.

99% of the members on this forum don't troll Chris. The discussion about him here is akin to people discussing the ridiculous antics of a celebrity. The only real difference between the obsessive coverage of everything the average pop star does and this forum is that Chris isn't really famous. Hell, one of the main rules of this forum is that nobody is to make any trolling plans. Members who do typically get banned. You guys probably should have checked that before you made blanket assumptions about everyone who frequents this forum, something you seem to ironically really like to accuse us of doing. Might want to check your own complexion before calling the kettle black, if you know what I mean.

I think he finds the very act we document anything about him worse than Hitler. Because he's autistic and needs to be protected incase his own laziness comes to bite him in the ass.

What Saddam did in the Gulf War is potatoes to what the CWCki users have done.

The only thing the CWCki users did to Chris are just discussing about him and new content and that's it.
 
Re: Wizardchan

Dr. Cuddlebug said:
He's not going to look for a job even if he's homeless. This is a man who's shower still has evidence of him wiping it with a sponge on camera close to 10 years prior. This is a man who had 10 years to get himself out of the position he's in.

Autism isn't an excuse, I'm sorry but it isn't. There are thousands of instances of autistic individuals who have jobs and live on their own, many who are lower functioning than OPL.

None of this makes stalking him and broadcasting his every movement okay.

I'll say it again, though, hunger can be an amazing motivator. Very few people will sit and starve to death.

Rio said:
99% of the members on this forum don't troll Chris.

I understand that nobody here is actively trolling Chris, it tells you not to on the top of the page. The stalking, though, and the constant discussion of his every move, is an act of trolling in itself, and the searchable index in particular is a death sentence if SSDI ever goes away. Worse than Hitler? Of course not, but just think, would you want to be on the receiving end?
 
Re: Wizardchan

Misbun Sidek said:
would you want to be on the receiving end?

I would never be on the receiving end. This man had more than 10 years to turn his life around. He had 10 years to find a job. He had 10 years to go back to school. He had 10 years to try and move out.

This is an allegory for Chris's life

[youtube]qLlUgilKqms[/youtube]

I should probably link this to you again, since you clearly don't read or listen to reason. And I'll select a very specific part

The trolling will not cease
Even if white knights get to Chris somehow, there is no endgame in which Chris will be free from trolls before his death.
In school, Chris was trolled by his classmates. He was even trolled by one of his real life friends. In college, he was trolled by friends who grew sick of his bullshit (e.g. Mimms and Lucas), and by girls annoyed by his "attraction methods" and rampant, unabashed sexism. If Chris quit the Internet tomorrow, he would still be trolled by a society that refuses to tolerate ignorant man-children flouting its rules.
If everyone trying to create his next fake sweetheart suddenly got bored and quit, Chris would unwittingly seek out new trolls to take their place, and we know newfags are more than willing.
If Chris isn't assigned a custodian after his parents die, his story will probably end when he falls victim to some con artist who swindles him out of his monthly tugboat and perhaps his home. If Chris does get assigned a custodian, he will continue his antics until the custodian kicks him out or bans him from the Internet. If the custodian bans Chris from the Internet, that's Chris trolling himself.
If Chris gets institutionalized, he will attract real life trolls at the mental hospital. If Chris does not go into an institution and instead ends up in prison due to circumstances that cannot be foreseen, he will be trolled there as well.
If the entire world reforms and decides to leave Chris alone, his own sense of victimization will override any benefit. Consider that Chris felt persecuted simply by observing males who had more success than himself. He regards legitimate assertions of authority as rank brutality. Adam Stackhouse managed to upset Chris to a degree that CWC observers rate among the most impressive to date, and he did it without even knowing that Chris existed at the time. Bleak as it is, unless Chris embarks on a program of radical self-improvement and/or learns some humility, and manages against the odds to shake off both his legions of abusers and seamy reputation, he will forever feel like a thoroughly-kicked autistic.
 
Re: Wizardchan

Misbun Sidek said:
the searchable index in particular is a death sentence if SSDI ever goes away.

Hyperbole much?

Chris is will not ever be in a situation to get a job that would care about google results. The only person who brings the CWCki to the attention of people in Chris's life is Chris.

There are a few :ween: who like to :julay: all over everything but they are not welcome here. Likewise no A-logging.
 
Re: Wizardchan

If potential employers ever googled my name they'd be like "So I notice you're a famous junkie author, and also you're dead. When can you start?"
 
Re: Wizardchan

Misbun Sidek said:
I'll say it again, though, hunger can be an amazing motivator. Very few people will sit and starve to death.

Rio said:
99% of the members on this forum don't troll Chris.

I understand that nobody here is actively trolling Chris, it tells you not to on the top of the page. The stalking, though, and the constant discussion of his every move, is an act of trolling in itself, and the searchable index in particular is a death sentence if SSDI ever goes away. Worse than Hitler? Of course not, but just think, would you want to be on the receiving end?
I direct you to the rest of my post:
The discussion about him here is akin to people discussing the ridiculous antics of a celebrity. The only real difference between the obsessive coverage of everything the average pop star does and this forum is that Chris isn't really famous. Hell, one of the main rules of this forum is that nobody is to make any trolling plans. Members who do typically get banned. You guys probably should have checked that before you made blanket assumptions about everyone who frequents this forum, something you seem to ironically really like to accuse us of doing. Might want to check your own complexion before calling the kettle black, if you know what I mean.

As for the job search thing, that hinges on the assumption that people doing a background search will google Chris's name and find cwckiforums.com, then completely read through it. That falls through right away seeing as how cwckiforums don't appear in a google search when you search Chris's name. Sonichu does, sure, but I would imagine it's relatively easy to get rid of that from google searches as well, were Chris to ever embark on a job search. That having been said, the first site that pops up on google when you google his name is knowyourmeme. Do you go there to talk about how evil they are for stalking him as well? I rather doubt it. Why do I doubt it? Because you're not here because of Chris. He's a convenient little excuse for you to call us evil because you're trying to make us the big bad wolf preying on poor innocent wizardchan. But that's a different discussion alltogether.

I would imagine most employee background checks wouldn't really consist of simply googling someone's name and hoping there's nobody else that shares it. I think they usually consist of checking up on references given in CVs, looking at someone's criminal history, and social outlets such as facebook. I don't think most of them would see a website named sonichu.com and go 'oh, I bet this is where I'll find an inexhaustible supply of legitimate information on my potential employee!'

That aside, one thing that deserves consideration is that far from all members on this forum are active sonichu.com wiki editors. In fact, I'd say they're probably a complete minority, so making blanket statements about how all of us are ruining Chris' chances at a job and pointing at sonichu.com to prove your point makes you look rather silly.

I'll state this again in case you're only going to pick out a fraction of my post and ignore the rest of it, pick this one: cwckiforums, this forum, the place you are calling a 'death sentence' because of potential employee background checks, does not appear in google searches when you google Chris's name. Many other sites do, including sonichu.com, but this one does not.

Now I would love to get more into this discussion, but as the thread title states, this thread is about the discussion of wizardchan, not the morality of these forums. There's other places to discuss that.
 
Re: Wizardchan

The wizards just need a little tenderness.

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