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I watched it with friends and it was deliciously cheesy.
Cthulhu Mythos & Related Media
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In the remake of Persona 2 Part 2, it's implied that it is the real Nyarlathotep, since the Dreamlands are part of the Collective Unconscious, at least in that universe.
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It's good that someone has an encyclopedic knowledge of every single thing that Lovecraft wrote which has survived until today (including all the notes, letters, correspondence, essays, etc) and can quickly cross reference them. Apparently he is pretty chummy with other Lovecraft scholars, both amateur and professional, like they can send him random questions like "Did Lovecraft ever express any opinion on this issue or this person", and he'll come back at them with all the citations and shit which is kind of impressive because I think there are still large chunks of the correspondence and essays that were never digitized or indexed in any form.
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He was against the World Fantasy Awards changing their award from a bust of Lovecraft. So he gets some good karma from me.
Per Wikipedia: In August 2014, Joshi opposed the campaign to change the World Fantasy Award statuette from a bust of Lovecraft to one of African-American author Octavia Butler.[6] As a person of colour, Joshi has been an ardent defender of Lovecraft's reputation and of the necessity to hold a balanced perspective on Lovecraft's racist attitudes given the general tenor of social attitudes during the times in which Lovecraft lived. Joshi returned his several World Fantasy Awards in protest at the decision to no longer utilise Gahan Wilson's statuette of Lovecraft as the award. The World Fantasy Award has since been changed to one of a leafless tree in front of a moon in bronze designed by sculptor Vincent Villafranca.
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The fact that they wanted to change the bust from Lovecraft to that of some no-name Negress tells you all you need to know about their motives. Good on Joshi for not putting up with this shit. I think the eventual decision to change the World Fantasy award to a statue of a lifeless, sterile tree is appropriate, although not for the reasons the awardmakers had intended.
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My favorite story is Case of Charles Dexter Ward . And in close second place is In the mountains of madness.
As for stories not written by Lovecraft , but still in this genre I will go with Repairer of reputations.
It is really good example of unreliable narrator.
SPOILER:
Story is set in alternate version of Victorian USA. Protagonist and narrator Hildred is young man who fell from his horse., during his recovery after this incident he read book King in the Yellow . This book is known for driving those who read it mad.
After his recovery ,Hildred becomes convinced that he is descendant of Hastur (eldritch entity) and together with Repairer of reputations (mix of modern jurno and blackmailer) they start plotting uprising of Hastur cult to take over USA.
There is one problem cousin of Hildred is before him in line of Hastur successors. So Hildred tries to get his cousin out of the way, but he fails. And Repairer of reputations is killed, before they can start their Revolution. So Hildred ends up mental asylum.
Question remains how much of the story is true and how much is just madmans imagination.
As for stories not written by Lovecraft , but still in this genre I will go with Repairer of reputations.
It is really good example of unreliable narrator.
SPOILER:
Story is set in alternate version of Victorian USA. Protagonist and narrator Hildred is young man who fell from his horse., during his recovery after this incident he read book King in the Yellow . This book is known for driving those who read it mad.
After his recovery ,Hildred becomes convinced that he is descendant of Hastur (eldritch entity) and together with Repairer of reputations (mix of modern jurno and blackmailer) they start plotting uprising of Hastur cult to take over USA.
There is one problem cousin of Hildred is before him in line of Hastur successors. So Hildred tries to get his cousin out of the way, but he fails. And Repairer of reputations is killed, before they can start their Revolution. So Hildred ends up mental asylum.
Question remains how much of the story is true and how much is just madmans imagination.
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Although this is in Multimedia we seem quite happy discussing the books here. Having just read through this thread I'm surprised to see no mention of William Hope Hodgeson's House on the Borderland. Whilst I think it might actually predate Lovecraft's writing it's clearly a spiritual sibling. Anyone who has not read it but has a predilection for the weird in a turn of the last century writing style, go read it now. You will not be disappointed. It's one of my favourite works. There was a whole slew of Weird Tales horror back then with consistent themes of humanity not knowing what was going on around it. Whether that was Ambrose Bierce's The Damned Thing. A story I remember as much for the very witty and morbid titles given to each section of the short story, the first being "One does not always eat what is on the table" (it takes place at an autopsy) and "A man though naked, may be in rags." (where we get into the state of the corpse). Another which really made an impression was Fitz James O'Brien's What Was It?. You can find the full text of that online and I strongly recommend it to everyone who likes Lovecraft. Though reading it online does it a disservice when really it should be read from an old battered book by a small stuttering lamp.
As to discussion here that's already taken place. I too greatly enjoyed R.W.Chamber's The King in Yellow. Though people should be warned that it's an anthology and only a couple of the stories have a direct link to the titular play/character. And did someone mention Colin Wilson here, yet? Because his short story Return of the Lloigor is not only a fun Lovecraftian tale but continues Lovecraft's racist themes with its tremendously anti-Welsh overtones and portrayal of Welsh people as a degenerate, semi-human people which I enjoyed immensely.
As to discussion here that's already taken place. I too greatly enjoyed R.W.Chamber's The King in Yellow. Though people should be warned that it's an anthology and only a couple of the stories have a direct link to the titular play/character. And did someone mention Colin Wilson here, yet? Because his short story Return of the Lloigor is not only a fun Lovecraftian tale but continues Lovecraft's racist themes with its tremendously anti-Welsh overtones and portrayal of Welsh people as a degenerate, semi-human people which I enjoyed immensely.
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Bit of a weird necro, but I gotta ask; are there any other modern wokeshit "reimaginings" of the Cthulhu Mythos? I mean, we all know that Lovecraft Country was a thing a few years ago, but are there any other attempts by the fags to try and bastardize his work? TV shows, games, anything?
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Can't think of any off the top of my head. There was a new "Deep Ones" film a few years ago which I never saw but given the era is in the at risk category, perhaps. I suspect that Lovecraft's cat keeps away a lot of the wokesters.
It's not Woke but I recently watched Underwater with Vincent Cassell and Kristen Stewart and Jessica Harwick. Honestly, the cast deserved better. It's mainly low-grade horror pablum, not scary unless you're very jumpy. I'll have to spoiler the Lovecraft connection They drill into the floor and release some vaguely humanoid squid people and at the end you see a giant thing which frankly is a LOT like Cthulhu. The design and presentation of him are pretty good, actually. Though the film is sadly not. Nothing in the film is explicitly Lovecraft but the parallel at the end is pretty glaring.
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The director explicitly said that the big one was cthulhu
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Seriously, the sheer fragility of the woke makes me wonder how in the hell they've ever gotten anything done...
I've heard some things about that movie; I really should give it a watch one of these days.
Actually, speaking of the wokeshit trying to ruin Lovecraft and his work, I do have another question; did Lovecraft's dislike of blacks and Jews ever actually contribute to any of his stories? I mean, I know his cat's name, and I remember reading a story that had the Chinese in it - that would be "He", by the way - but were there any stories that went after Jews or blacks? Fairly certain there was, but I legitimately can't remember right now.
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Oh neat. Well that's good - it would be pretty churlish to have gone that close and not acknowledged it. Probably the best Cthulhu I've ever seen in media, tbh.
I was disappointed. I seem to be in a minority though as reviews on Amazon were filled with high praise. It foregoes a lot of the traditional build up and get to know the characters which horror movies of its ilk usually do. And I think it suffers for that as they pretty much dive right into it. I'd have liked to see more of the characters, especially Vincent Cassell and Kristen Stewart who had potential for a nice dynamic from the times they were actually on screen together. The creature design is pretty effective. And Kristen Stewart spends a disproportionate amount of the movie in her underwear if that's your thing. I'm curious if it's just me who didn't really get into it, though. Maybe if they'd directly acknowledged Lovecraft and brought in more themes I'd have been drawn in more.
Do you mean contribute as to be a factor or contribute as to make better? If the former then oh yes. The most egregious examples are things like The Horror at Red Hook which repeatedly tries to evoke disgust by referencing racial mixing or that one where a guy literally kills himself out of horror when he finds out he's descended from a gorilla.
If you meant as in enhances his work - well there's a psychological kin of racism which are themes of degeneracy and subhuman horrors. Works like The Shadow Over Innsmouth wouldn't work without that kind of theme. Just like Uncanny Valley doesn't work if it's not in that "not quite human" zone. It's the close but wrong that creates the revulsion. But that is seperable from racism so I would say 'no' to the latter.
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Medusa's Coil has an infamously politically-incorrect twist ending
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Found a website that had a preview of the end, and... yeah, that ending is pretty racist.
Anything about Jews/antisemitism? That's another thing I see the wokeshit talk about a lot when it comes to Lovecraft, but I haven't noticed any "anti-Jew" remarks in any of his stories. Granted, I haven't exactly read all of Lovecraft's works, but is there any actual antisemitism in any of Lovecraft's writings? Or is it just something else that the wokeshit have taken out of context?
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I've heard that myself, actually; I've also heard that Lovecraft actually went back on a lot of his more racist ideas later in life. Of course, to the woke, "once a racist always a racist" etc. Facts and logic mean nothing to these people; just the desire to be constantly offended and ruin literally everything so the entire world can be miserable right alongside them.
The aforementioned Lovecraft Country is a pretty good example; not only did the creator outright state that their intention was to ruin Lovecraft's reputation, but the show tries to portray the eldritch horrors and magic as good things that black people should use to kill and rape as many "racist white people" as possible. Hell, the ending goes full retard and has one of the main characters cast a spell that prevents all white people from using magic, and furthermore condemns the vast majority of white people to die horrible deaths and turn into mindless zombies if the old (thankfully cancelled) Season 2 leaks were any indication; if anything, it ends up making Lovecraft's so-called "racism" look entirely justified.
Anyways, apologizes for sperging out there. I was bringing up the "antisemitism" bit since that was the most common thing I saw about Lovecraft, next to his "racism" of black people. Hence, my question; did antisemitism ever actually appear in any of his stories, or was it just something in his private letters that the loons took out of proportion? Again?
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I liked Underwater a lot. It was genuinely spooky in several scenes, and while I agree that there should have been more build up to the start of the "incident", I appreciate the director trying a little something different from usual horror movies by just getting right to the danger. Plus, Kristen Stewart and Jessica Henwick in their underwear wins a bit of goodwill from me.
I tried playing the Call of Cthulhu video game from a few years back when it came free on Games With Gold, but it vacillates wildy between painfully boring and hair-tearingly difficult. (Seriously, that encounter with the Dimensional Shambler was annoying as shit.) I never managed to finish it, and I doubt I missed anything. A walking simulator/puzzle game is not the kind of game I'm wired to appreciate.
I tried playing the Call of Cthulhu video game from a few years back when it came free on Games With Gold, but it vacillates wildy between painfully boring and hair-tearingly difficult. (Seriously, that encounter with the Dimensional Shambler was annoying as shit.) I never managed to finish it, and I doubt I missed anything. A walking simulator/puzzle game is not the kind of game I'm wired to appreciate.