CN Cuba to Host Secret Chinese Spy Base Focusing on U.S. - "An eavesdropping facility in Cuba, roughly 100 miles from Florida, would allow Chinese intelligence services to scoop up electronic communications throughout the southeastern U.S., where many military bases are located, and monitor U.S. ship traffic."


Beijing agrees to pay Havana several billion dollars for eavesdropping facility​


China and Cuba have reached a secret agreement for China to establish an electronic eavesdropping facility on the island, in a brash new geopolitical challenge by Beijing to the U.S., according to U.S. officials familiar with highly classified intelligence.

An eavesdropping facility in Cuba, roughly 100 miles from Florida, would allow Chinese intelligence services to scoop up electronic communications throughout the southeastern U.S., where many military bases are located, and monitor U.S. ship traffic.

Officials familiar with the matter said that China has agreed to pay cash-strapped Cuba several billion dollars to allow it to build the eavesdropping station, and that the two countries had reached an agreement in principle.

The revelation about the planned site has sparked alarm within the Biden administration because of Cuba’s proximity to the U.S. mainland. Washington regards Beijing as its most significant economic and military rival. A Chinese base with advanced military and intelligence capabilities in the U.S.’s backyard could be an unprecedented new threat.

“While I cannot speak to this specific report, we are well aware of—and have spoken many times to—the People’s Republic of China’s efforts to invest in infrastructure around the world that may have military purposes, including in this hemisphere,” John Kirby, spokesman for the National Security Council, said. “We monitor it closely, take steps to counter it, and remain confident that we are able to meet all our security commitments at home, in the region, and around the world.”

U.S. officials described the intelligence on the planned Cuba site, apparently gathered in recent weeks, as convincing. They said the base would enable China to conduct signals intelligence, known in the espionage world as sigint, which could include the monitoring of a range of communications, including emails, phone calls and satellite transmissions.

The Chinese Embassy in Washington had no comment. Cuba’s Embassy didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Officials declined to provide more details about the proposed location of the listening station or whether construction had begun. It couldn’t be determined what, if anything, the Biden administration could do to stop completion of the facility.

The U.S. has intervened before to stop foreign powers from extending their influence in the Western Hemisphere, most notably during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. The U.S. and the Soviet Union came to the brink of nuclear war after the Soviets deployed nuclear-capable missiles to Cuba, prompting a U.S. Navy quarantine of the island.

The Soviets backed down and removed the missiles. A few months later, the U.S. quietly removed intermediate-range ballistic missiles from Turkey that the Soviets had complained about.

The intelligence on the new base comes in the midst of the Biden administration’s efforts to improve U.S.-China relations after months of acrimony that followed a Chinese spy balloon’s flight over the U.S. earlier this year.

Last month President Biden sent Central Intelligence Agency Director William Burns on a secret trip to Beijing, and national security adviser Jake Sullivan held talks with a top Chinese official in Vienna. It couldn’t be determined whether the planned Chinese eavesdropping station figured in those exchanges.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken is expected to travel to Beijing later this month and possibly meet with Chinese leader Xi Jinping. Biden said in May that he believed there would be a thaw in U.S.-China relations despite recent public tensions.

Beijing is likely to argue that the base in Cuba is justified because of U.S. military and intelligence activities close to China, analysts said. U.S. military aircraft fly over the South China Sea, engaging in electronic surveillance. The U.S. sells arms to Taiwan, which China considers a renegade province, deploys a small number of troops there to train its military, and sails Navy ships through the Taiwan Strait.

An eavesdropping facility in Cuba would make clear “China is prepared to do the same in America’s backyard,” said Craig Singleton, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a national-security think tank in Washington.

“Establishing this facility signals a new, escalatory phase in China’s broader defense strategy. It’s a bit of a game changer,” Singleton said. “The selection of Cuba is also intentionally provocative.”

China’s only declared foreign military base is in Djibouti, in the Horn of Africa. It has embarked on a global port-development campaign in places including Cambodia and the United Arab Emirates. U.S. officials say that effort is aimed at creating a network of military ports and intelligence bases to project Chinese power around the globe.

Security relations between Washington and Beijing have grown tense in recent weeks after close encounters between U.S. and Chinese ships in the Taiwan Strait and between the two nations’ military aircraft over the South China Sea.

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and China’s defense minister, Gen. Li Shangfu, traded barbs at a conference in Singapore last weekend, though the two shook hands in a widely publicized gesture. Austin complained about Beijing’s lack of communication on military matters and Li’s refusal to meet with him. China has said it won’t agree to such a meeting until Washington lifts sanctions it placed on Li in 2018.

The Biden administration has attempted to pull closer to Havana, reversing some Trump-era policies by loosening restrictions on travel to and from Cuba and re-establishing a family-reunification program. The administration has also expanded consular services to allow more Cubans to visit the U.S. and has restored some diplomatic personnel who were removed after a series of mysterious health incidents affecting U.S. personnel in Havana.

Moscow has traditionally been Cuba’s closest partner among major world powers, supporting Havana with economic and military aid. But Beijing has been building closer diplomatic and economic ties to the island. Cuban President Miguel Diaz-Canel met with Xi in Beijing in November.

During the Cold War, the Soviet Union operated its largest overseas signals intelligence site at Lourdes, just outside Havana. The site, which closed down after 2001, reportedly hosted hundreds of Soviet, Cuban and other Eastern Bloc intelligence officers.

There were reports in 2014 that Russia would reopen the Lourdes station, but that doesn’t appear to have happened, and its current status couldn’t be determined.

Write to Warren P. Strobel at Warren.Strobel@wsj.com and Gordon Lubold at gordon.lubold@wsj.com
 
Well, good luck convincing Captain Rodriguez to bomb his home country. If it was that easy, America would've done something about the Mexican fentanyl labs, the illegal border crossings, and the cartels by now.

Until America manages to secure their southern border, I'm not convinced they can win in a conventional war special military operation against Mexico. Especially if Chinese and Russian equipment starts finding its way to Mexico.
Or knowing the Dems like I do, US arms end up in the Cartels' hands and merks US troops.
 
Or knowing the Dems like I do, US arms end up in the Cartels' hands and merks US troops.

Already has I heard, straight from the Ukraine. The reds don't even need the missiles, they play long games. Just give the mehicans as much fent as they can, and despite making up 14% of the population.... niggers gonna nig.
 
lol, why are they wasting their time building something in Cuba? They could use any college campus in the CONUS just as easily.
They did that with the Confucius Institutes. Worked great for a time until Trump shut them down hard. Uncle Sam is annoyingly persistent when it comes to who gets to spy on Americans, and he hates competition.
Well, good luck convincing Captain Rodriguez to bomb his home country.
A Mexican has few loyalties save a steady paycheck. This is a country notorious for civil wars, corruption, and criminal cartels, after all.
 
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A Mexican has few loyalties save a steady paycheck. This is a country notorious for civil wars, corruption, and criminal cartels, after all.
Something Europeans wouldn't understand. The mexicans are very simple. Money, food, and whores, that's all the country runs on. They'll wave their flag, but good lord, they'll hop that fence given half the chance. They would rather get paid like shit in construction, because 4 bucks under the table is worth its weight in gold in pesos. They'll bomb whatever if the price is right
 
They did that with the Confucius Institutes. Worked great for a time until Trump shut them down hard. Uncle Sam is annoyingly persistent when it comes to who gets to spy on Americans, and he hates competition.

A Mexican has few loyalties save a steady paycheck. This is a country notorious for civil wars, corruption, and criminal cartels, after all.
What if China offers a better paycheck?
 
So they're plugging in the antennas at Lourdes again? Gonna intercept South Florida VHF and UHF TV signals, DirecTV, and ... I dunno, unencrypted faxes?
There is an enormous amount of useful intelligence without knowing the content but only who is talking to whom and when and how often.
And with triangulation, knowing where the ship was when it talked to home base for example.
 
So secret that Russia was already using Cuba for the exact same fucking thing during the Cold War. I'd just say fuck it and build more signit ships to sail around China in response

Why do people even care at this point about the US? It's run by pedophiles who want to overrun the southern border with the 3rd world and cartels.

Exactly what are people hoping to protect when this is all over? Tent cities, Gang Zones and the child Red Light district? We're done, burn it all.
 
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Are China's women hot like white blond chicks? Do they know the complexities of LatAm Dub Dragonball Z? Can they hop a fence to get into their country or will they have to take a plane while having a rap sheet 10 Miles/16km long?

White blonde chicks with wide open legs? Sweden yes, USA lolololol 56% no.
 
Why do people even care at this point about the US? It's run by pedophiles who want to overrun the southern border with the 3rd world and cartels.

Exactly what are people hoping to protect when this is all over? Tent cities, Gang Zones and the child Red Light district? We're done, burn it all.
It's my home, and not all of it is shit. If all you look at is the cities, you're gonna have a bad perspective. I'm not gonna roll over and die because things are hard.
White blonde chicks with wide open legs? Sweden yes, USA lolololol 56% no.
You've never been to Utah lol
 
There's a calgon ancient chinese secret joke here somewhere, but my coffee is still brewing and I'm too foggy to find it.

At this point they might as well send a fucking spy ship over from their Horn of Africa base, you know the ones with the big bubble radar domes and antennas? As long as they stayed in Cuban waters, not much could be done
 
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China Has Had a Spy Base in Cuba for Years, U.S. Official Says
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Karoun Demirjian and Edward Wong
2023-06-11 01:43:06GMT

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The Senate Intelligence Committee is disturbed by the cooperation of Beijing and Havana.Credit...Yander Zamora/EPA, via Shutterstock

A Chinese spy base in Cuba that could intercept electronic signals from nearby U.S. military and commercial buildings has been up and running since or before 2019, when the Chinese base was upgraded, according to a Biden administration official.

The official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence, said the spy base was an issue that the Biden administration had inherited from former President Donald J. Trump. After Mr. Biden took office, his administration was briefed about the base in Cuba as well as plans China was considering to build similar facilities across the globe, the official said.

The existence of an agreement to build a Chinese spy facility in Cuba, first reported on Thursday by The Wall Street Journal and also reported by The New York Times and other news outlets, prompted a forceful response from Capitol Hill. In a joint statement, Senator Mark Warner, Democrat of Virginia and chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and the panel’s top Republican, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, said they were “deeply disturbed by reports that Havana and Beijing are working together to target the United States and our people.”

John Kirby, the National Security Council spokesman, denied the reports at the time, saying they were “not accurate.” He added that “we have had real concerns about China’s relationship with Cuba, and we have been concerned since Day 1 of the administration about China’s activities in our hemisphere and around the world.”

But a U.S. official familiar with the intelligence cited in Thursday’s reports insisted that China and Cuba had struck an accord to enhance existing spy capabilities.

Carlos F. de Cossio, a deputy foreign minister of Cuba, wrote on Twitter on Saturday that the latest reports on spying facilities were “slanderous speculation.”

Some of the Biden administration’s critics in Congress questioned the motives for the administration’s response.

“Why did the Biden administration previously deny these reports of a C.C.P. spy base in Cuba? Why did they downplay the ‘silly’ C.C.P. spy balloon?” Representative Mike Gallagher of Wisconsin, the Republican chairman of the House select committee looking into strategic competition with China, said in a statement Saturday, referring to the Chinese Communist Party by its initials.

The Biden administration has been working to counter China’s continued efforts to gain a foothold in the region and elsewhere, an administration official said, chiefly by engaging diplomatically with nations that China was pursuing as potential hosts for such bases. The official added that the administration had slowed China’s plans but declined to give specifics.

While Beijing’s global efforts to build military bases and listening outposts have been documented previously, the reports detailed the extent to which China is bringing its intelligence-gathering operations into ever-closer proximity with the United States. Cuba’s coastline is less than 100 miles from the nearest part of Florida, a close enough distance to enhance China’s technological ability to conduct signals intelligence, by monitoring the electronic communications across the U.S. southeast, which is home to several military bases.

China and the United States routinely spy on one another’s activities, and Cuba proximity has long made it a strategically valuable foothold for U.S. adversaries, perhaps most famously during the Cold War, when the Soviet Union attempted to store nuclear missiles on the island nation during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

A spokesman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry, Wang Wenbin, said Friday in response to the reports, “The U.S. is the global champion of hacking and superpower of surveillance.”

The reports also surfaced at an awkward moment for the Biden administration, which has been trying to normalize relations with China after a protracted period of heightened tensions. Last year, several diplomatic, military and climate engagements between the two countries were frozen after Speaker Nancy Pelosi visited Taiwan over objections from Beijing, which considers the self-governing island part of its territory.

High-level meetings, including an official trip by Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken, were canceled again earlier this year, after a Chinese spy balloon was seen crossing the United States by people on the ground, and tracked hovering near sensitive military sites.

Mr. Blinken is now scheduled to travel to Beijing for meetings that begin June 18, and it is unclear if revelations of a Chinese spy facility so close to U.S. territory could complicate those plans. Other issues hover over the trip, including growing calls for China to release Yuyu Dong, a prominent journalist who has been detained since February last year and is awaiting trial on charges of espionage that his family members say are false. Mr. Dong, a former Nieman fellow at Harvard, met for years in a transparent manner with American and Japanese diplomats and journalists in Beijing.
 
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