Cultural Variations in Children's Mirror Self-Recognition - Nig'lets Don't Understand How Mirrors Work

Distant Stare said:
Yes, but the results are very consistent across the hundred or so kids they use.

I am interested in this, "These findings cannot be explained in terms of a slight developmental lag as children were aged up to 72 months (6 years) and still showed no evidence of self-oriented behaviors".

Why is it that other radically different mammals are able to complete this test, but they still claim that cultural variations are to blame.
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Lol why didn't they do Abos. God that would have been good.
 
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....So how many studies did you pile through to get to one which affirmed your beliefs? Did you even look or did you find this place else by someone who cherry picked the shit out of research data. Also the Abstract itself stated the differances where most likely cultural rather than Intrinsic.

Unless you're stupid enough to think Black people are dumber than Dolphins?
 
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Fagatron said:
>Uneducated children whose parents have to constantly perform hard manual labour all day have weaker cognative skills than those who have parents with more leisure time or Nannies/Nursery instructors to bring them on.

Imagine my shock.
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Don't forget malnutrition and pestilence.
 
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Fagatron said:
Uneducated children whose parents have to constantly perform hard manual labour all day have weaker cognative skills than those who have parents with more leisure time or Nannies/Nursery instructors to bring them on.

Imagine my shock.
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Thank god for dolphins with office jobs.

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It seems to me that the difference in ability at a given age on this particular test suggests a reason other than genetic differences because it is so dramatic. If there were such a huge gap in - to use a misleading and over-general term - intelligence it's hard to imagine it wouldn't show up in many other areas - age at which an infant starts talking, recognizing faces and undeniable gross differences in intelligence in adult specimens. Not being aware of such, learning and environment seem the likely area to find an explanation. Children in Western cities are exposed to images of people continually from an early age. Infants in a village in rural Kenya, less I should imagine.

Also, let me know when they can pass this mirror test.

 
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Maskull said:
They're not using very large data sets to prove their thesis.
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Neither sample sizes are abnormal for an initial study, and the article was peer reviewed if it's in a scholarly publication, which Sage is despite being one of the worst publications imo.
 
Probably means nothing.

Maskull said:
That's hundred or so children across a continent. That's not enough to say much of anything at all. Rather than cultural variations I would personally liken it more to poverty instead but it's not for me to say. They need larger sets of data and they probably should account for income and other environmental factors as well aside the cultural divide with the West.
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What, so poverty makes you retarded?

ZeCommissar said:
Lol this thread is dumb as fuck. If you are implying that Africans are too stupid to understand what reflections are then how come people of African descent outside of Africa pass a mirror test?
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I don't agree with OP's point, but African-Americans ARE about one-fifth White...
 
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