Cyberpunk 2077 Grieving Thread

[Shidoen]

nexus mod challenge: Dont make porn or faggot mod for 1 day (impossible)

Reminded they have more time to make a horse vagina mod for skyrim than adding a spellcasting button system like Oblivion

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Reminded they have more time to make a horse vagina mod for skyrim than adding a spellcasting button system like Oblivion

It's really weird that they can't figure out a way to just make the shout button work as a dedicated spell button.

It can't be that shouts are hardcoded as IIRC greater powers are activated with the shout button.

 

[ZMOT]

Reminded they have more time to make a horse vagina mod for skyrim than adding a spellcasting button system like Oblivion

ironically attaching a bunch of low-textured polygons to the back of a horse takes less time than scripting and implementing a whole spellcasting system (even if they rip it from oblivion).

 

[macrodegenerate]

Daily reminder that Fallout New Vegas, which many consider one of the greatest RPGs of all time was developed in 1.5 years. CDPR has literally no excuse, especially when they wasted a ton of time scraping the original game after the change in direction. But hopefully the new expansion + patch will get the game closer to what was originally promised.

Keep in mind that a rudimentary version of the games engine was already made and provided to Obsidian before development began.

Where Obsidian shined was correcting many of the flaws present in that engine and adding a solid story and engaging scenarios.

Todd Howard did most of the work to give Obsidian a body, but Joshua Sawyer gave the Mojave a soul and that's what New Vegas is remembered for.

 

[Snekposter]

Keep in mind that a rudimentary version of the games engine was already made and provided to Obsidian before development began.

Where Obsidian shined was correcting many of the flaws present in that engine and adding a solid story and engaging scenarios.

Todd Howard did most of the work to give Obsidian a body, but Joshua Sawyer gave the Mojave a soul and that's what New Vegas is remembered for.

Yep, its a buggy as hell kludge of features, but I'll be damned if it isn't a magnificently charming buggy as hell kludge of features.

 

[Shidoen]

ironically attaching a bunch of low-textured polygons to the back of a horse takes less time than scripting and implementing a whole spellcasting system (even if they rip it from oblivion).

It's not about the time spent, it's how you spent that time. It took less to make a horse vagina but the effort to make the spellcasting system would be more worthwhile, as much of a pain in the ass it would be to code.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

It's not about the time spent, it's how you spent that time. It took less to make a horse vagina but the effort to make the spellcasting system would be more worthwhile, as much of a pain in the ass it would be to code.

I feel the age old saying of "make the mod yourself" applies, even if annoying.

Modding takes autism and that autism takes interest in different things from person to person, and script modding requires a whole other level of autism found in a select few ubertists.

 

[ZMOT]

I feel the age old saying of "make the mod yourself" applies, even if annoying.

Modding takes autism and that autism takes interest in different things from person to person, and script modding requires a whole other level of autism found in a select few ubertists.

yeah, people modeling horse pussy most likely don't have much interest in spell crafting and vice versa.
time isn't really a factor since the whole world could mod it at the same time, for free - compared to official development where each department with a limited amount of people only has a limited amount of time and budget till release.

 

[Mega Black]

I think the main plot and sidequests are fine but the pacing is utterly fucked on account of the nature of the plot. It feels wrong to run around and do open world shit when V's tumor is established to be eating his brain at mach speed.

 

[crowabunga]

I think the main plot and sidequests are done but the pacing is utterly fucked on account of the nature of the plot. It feels wrong to run around and do open world shit when V's tumor is established to be eating his brain at mach speed.

I watched some playthroughs during the drama, and it was comical to see V go from puking his guts out while having a migraine in the cutscene at the end of every major quest to picking up the next one running-and-gunning with nary an impediment. That mismatch between time-sensitive character motivation and the wide variety of comparatively insignificant quests kills suspension of disbelief faster than laughably grimdark worldbuilding and wonky physics glitches.

 

[Mega Black]

I watched some playthroughs during the drama, and it was comical to see V go from puking his guts out while having a migraine in the cutscene at the end of every major quest to picking up the next one running-and-gunning with nary an impediment. That mismatch between time-sensitive character motivation and the wide variety of comparatively insignificant quests kills suspension of disbelief faster than laughably grimdark worldbuilding and wonky physics glitches.

The only thing that makes sense to me is that they wanted you to be hanging out with Keanu as fast as possible. The way the Acts are structured it feels like the lead up to the heist should have given the player plenty of time to side quest and build a rep as a merc, then after that you get to Act 2 and the stakes are established (though Vic should definitely say you have six months or so to live rather than 'a few weeks at most'.)

Then you hit Act 3 where most of the game's content is finished and you're dying.

Instead the game doesn't even really start until you do the heist which means all the content you can explore opens up, meaning you have to play the dumbest nigger alive if you want to do any of it.

 

[1999 prick]

The only thing that makes sense to me is that they wanted you to be hanging out with Keanu as fast as possible. The way the Acts are structured it feels like the lead up to the heist should have given the player plenty of time to side quest and build a rep as a merc, then after that you get to Act 2 and the stakes are established (though Vic should definitely say you have six months or so to live rather than 'a few weeks at most'.)

Then you hit Act 3 where most of the game's content is finished and you're dying.

Instead the game doesn't even really start until you do the heist which means all the content you can explore opens up, meaning you have to play the dumbest nigger alive if you want to do any of it.

From what I can gather in interviews as to why it was rushed in Act 1 is CDPR noticed that majority of players wouldn't finish The Witcher 3 just from how long it takes to finish the game in a normal playthrough and they took the risk as to avoid that problem but honestly not only did it cause for the flow to suffer but for the regular players to absorb the World of Cyberpunk, a world that has niche fan base.
I watched DSP's playthrough and even though he is dog shit at it his complains and failing to understand the world is honestly reasonable, like the average person doesn't know wtf a BD is, wtf is netrunning, who the fuck the gangs are, what life is like for for different people in cyberpunk, the established history etc.

though they also take advantage to such issues when it comes to story telling fully knowing that many people playing cyberpunk are fully ignorant of the world and lore, resulting in a fanbase theorizing on the history and lore.

I don't know if they struggled to add immersive factors or were over thinking with how people would play the game or if it's both,
but seeing how they market the DLC and its changes it looks like they plan to take full advantage of their experience and put it in Orion

 

[Car Won't Crank]

though they also take advantage to such issues when it comes to story telling fully knowing that many people playing cyberpunk are fully ignorant of the world and lore, resulting in a fanbase theorizing on the history and lore.

The extra context and world building Edgerunners brought to the game are honestly what convinced me to play it and probably why it was so successful at bringing in new players.

 

[Raging Capybara]

From what I can gather in interviews as to why it was rushed in Act 1 is CDPR noticed that majority of players wouldn't finish The Witcher 3 just from how long it takes to finish the game in a normal playthrough

Lol, nobody finished W3 because the game is fucking boring.

 

[There Is Light At The End]

Lol, nobody finished W3 because the game is fucking boring.

People who read books did

 

[White Devil]

People who read books did

I didn't. The game actually is boring and I found the books more entertaining.

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

From what I can gather in interviews as to why it was rushed in Act 1 is CDPR noticed that majority of players wouldn't finish The Witcher 3 just from how long it takes to finish the game in a normal playthrough and they took the risk as to avoid that problem but honestly not only did it cause for the flow to suffer but for the regular players to absorb the World of Cyberpunk, a world that has niche fan base.

I think this is honestly one of the biggest mistakes CDPR made. The entire montage at the beginning of the game of learning to be a merc with Jackie would have been more fun to experience as a player as well as made Jackie and even more impactful character.

I've made no secrets that I actually really love CP2077 as a game, its one of my favorites, but I think gimping the story because spergs don't finish games was a terrible misstep.

 

[Climaxing Sunset]

So the whole Phantom Liberty DLC I heard is kind of a soft reboot

Kind of excited that they’re implementing the some of the features from the tabletops over to the DLC

 

[Snekposter]

So the whole Phantom Liberty DLC I heard is kind of a soft reboot

Kind of excited that they’re implementing the some of the features from the tabletops over to the DLC

Pretty much. Looks like the game itself is being completely redone with the DLC being just the DLC. Surprising, since I expected them to cut their losses instead of pulling a mea culpa like this.

 

[King Vidiot]

CD Projekt Red is laying off 100 employees, which is 9% of the company workforce. If I am doing the math right this means they are going from around 1100 down to 1000 employees. There don't seem to be any details on which groups are getting cut. Their strategy statement says they have 350 people on Phantom Liberty. Some of the cuts aren't happening right away, so they could be cutting that team down a bunch after the DLC ships in September.

https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/media/news/cd-projekt-red-organizational-update/ ( archive )

I have some news to share regarding the future shape of our teams and our game development philosophy.

Those of you familiar with our strategy might remember that we have a lot going on at CD PROJEKT RED. Projects like Polaris (The Witcher franchise), Orion (Cyberpunk franchise), or Hadar (new franchise) are just some of the exciting elements in the future we see for our games. Part of that strategy is an ongoing process of several deep transformations within the studio which we consider key to making quality games, on time and without crunch. After reshaping our development process and incorporating Agile methodologies, we’re now focusing on refining the shape of our teams.

To meet our own high expectations and ambitions to create the best role-playing games, we not only want to have the best people but also the right teams. What we mean by that is having teams that are built around our projects’ needs; teams that are more agile and more effective. At this point in time, we’re certain that for CD PROJEKT RED to grow, we need to be consistent in implementing that approach.

We’ve carefully assessed all teams in the company in terms of their expected contribution to the delivery of our strategy. There’s no easy way to say this, but today we are overstaffed. We have talented people on board who are finishing their tasks and — based on current and expected project needs — we already know we don’t have other opportunities for them in the next year. The outcome is the studio parting ways with around 100 people, which is roughly 9% of the entire team. This will not be immediate as some employees will be let go as late as Q1 2024 but, in the spirit of transparency, we’ve chosen to share the information now. We want team members to have ample time to process and adjust to the change, and we’ve also made sure to offer everyone a comprehensive severance package.

Finally, I would like to address affected CDPR team members reading this message. Although our paths will diverge professionally, I believe the relationships we have built can remain strong. I encourage you to stay connected and would like to thank you for being an invaluable part of our journey. Your impact will resonate within CD PROJEKT RED and we wish you nothing but success and fulfillment in the next chapter of your professional lives.


Adam Kiciński

CEO, CD PROJEKT