Cyberpunk 2077 Grieving Thread

[FinnSven]

I liked reserving Suicide for those gigs that want you to eliminate a specific target without being detected. Find a perch somewhere I can see them through a window or hack the cameras from the alley outside and watch as they put a bullet in their head in front of all their chooms. The ultimates all have a pretty high ram cost but I had just enough for Memory Wipe > Suicide, and with perks later on you can chain ultimates eventually.

System overload can do the same job without the risk of detection. It lacks the fun of them blowing their own brains out, but it is still amusing as it looks like a remotely induced heart attack.

Lore and suspension of belief aside, it would be more trouble than it’s worth to install cyberware if basically random hacker kids could just kill off elite soldiers for shits and giggles with effectively a Bluetooth keyboard.

There have been a couple of occasions when workers in combat zones, presumably more or less ordinary citizens, have managed to shoot me point blank in the head when I was merrily hacking and killing off heavily armed gangoons or corporate agents.
Their lack of cyberware means I can’t just short circuit them or root them too the spot while I take my time breaking their skulls.

Of course they last less than seconds as soon as I open fire on them, but still.
A competent hunter with an average bolt action rifle and a vantage point could be a bigger problem for a heavily chromed and armed merc than even the more powerful equally equipped street criminals and white collar criminals.

 

[Snekposter]

A competent hunter with an average bolt action rifle and a vantage point could be a bigger problem for a heavily chromed and armed merc than even the more powerful equally equipped street criminals and white collar criminals.

Pretty much. There's a level or two in the Syndicate FPS where all your enemies are a bunch of random joggers with no CHIP so the best you can do is jam their weapons, and you yourself only have the same overall kit they do of low-grade street weapons. Its extremely frustrating in a good way and the boss at the end is equally CHIP-less but has active camo so you're running around hiding and fucking with his proximity mines to try and chaff his cloak down so you can blast him with a looted cyberpunk Uzi.

 

[FinnSven]

Pretty much. There's a level or two in the Syndicate FPS where all your enemies are a bunch of random joggers with no CHIP so the best you can do is jam their weapons, and you yourself only have the same overall kit they do of low-grade street weapons. Its extremely frustrating in a good way and the boss at the end is equally CHIP-less but has active camo so you're running around hiding and fucking with his proximity mines to try and chaff his cloak down so you can blast him with a looted cyberpunk Uzi.

Syndicate and Syndicate Wars did that sort of thing better.

Cyberpunk-Dystopian Cannon fodder, basically.

Unless you lot are all zoomers and don’t remember the charming games of the early 90s.

 

[Snekposter]

Syndicate and Syndicate Wars did that sort of thing better.

Cyberpunk-Dystopian Cannon fodder, basically.

Unless you lot are all zoomers and don’t remember the charming games of the early 90s.

Let's just say you need to be at least double-digits in age to appreciate those games and I was a few short of that when it came to Syndicate Wars.

 

[ChampFantana]

You buy guns? I just loot them of corpses or boxes.

Nope, I just loot them myself. The high cost of them from the stores is why I don't buy them.

 

[Tinnitus]

It sucks how there isn't a Quickhack to detonate a target's Mr.Studd or Midgnight Lady.

 

[Need for Sped]

I'm probably going to regret posting this (Hell, I'm already regretting writing it), but after finishing the game, there is a pretty large plothole I still can't wrap my mind around it.

Spoiler: Plot sperging: Abandon all hope

In a nutshell, how do we even get to the beginning of the plot? (i.e Yorinobu loading up Johnny Silverhand in the Relic and selling it/handing it over to someone)

Allegedly, Yorinobu wanted to sell the Relic to Netwatch. If Netwatch contacted him first:
- How would they even know JS was soulkilled and usable as an engram to begin with? Nobody but Saburo and the 3-4 people that were there knew (And everybody else would reasonably think he died in the nuking of Arasaka Tower), plus this happened 50 years ago. Any possible trail to this information would be ice cold.
- Why would they want the Relic to begin with? Even if they thought they could use the JS engram as a bait for Alt, that would require A) Going beyond the Blackwall B) For them to know whether AIs can interact with/recognize engrams C) For the Alt AI to still be human enough after all this time to recognize Johnny (Which she admits she barely is), and D) The whole thing is running on the assumption that Alt even still exists at all (Again, it's been more than 50 years, and that portion of the net is basically a dog eat dog world, where AIs can and do consume each other) so even if they ran into a rogue AI calling itself Alt, it would be more than likely that it was just whatever's left of her after being consumed by another AI, so it's very possible she wouldn't even react to the engram at all. The whole thing is running in so many ifs and maybes that there's no way someone actually planned it as is.
- How did the Net Niggers found out about this? They are outclassed by Netwatch to a point were they were even able to take their leader hostage; so it's hard to believe they were able to break into Netwatch and get the information in order to hire Evelyn Parker and plan the heist.

If Yorinobu acted first:
- Why sell the Relic to Netwatch? If the objective is to fuck over Saburo's plan and leak the technology, go all in and sell it to Militech, who is Arasaka's greatest competitor and would have been all over it, especially after Project Cynosure.
- Even if he wanted to sell the Relic to Netwatch for whatever retarded reason: Why would he offer to load JS on it without being prompted to? Especially since he had a giant selection of engrams to choose from, according to the lore?

By all means rate me autistic, I deserve it.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

By all means rate me autistic, I deserve it.

The better question is how did Arasaka end up with Johnny's soulkilled construct at all, since it was Spider Murphy who used it on him as he was dying in the helicopter after Adam Smasher blew him in half. Remember how Alt tells you Johnny's memories are basically him lying to himself? She's not wrong. Morgan Blackhand and Militech nuked the tower, Johnny's team was a distraction.

 

[Need for Sped]

The better question is how did Arasaka end up with Johnny's soulkilled construct at all, since it was Spider Murphy who used it on him as he was dying in the helicopter after Adam Smasher blew him in half. Remember how Alt tells you Johnny's memories are basically him lying to himself? She's not wrong. Morgan Blackhand and Militech nuked the tower, Johnny's team was a distraction.

Oh yeah, if we're opening that can of worms, it makes even less sense.

 

[Raoul_Duke]

Oh yeah, if we're opening that can of worms, it makes even less sense.

From what I know, Pondsmith did say he had plans for Silverhand, explaining all that in the TTRPG. Granted, they'll probably be really retarded plans, but who knows?

 

[wopirish]

The better question is how did Arasaka end up with Johnny's soulkilled construct at all, since it was Spider Murphy who used it on him as he was dying in the helicopter after Adam Smasher blew him in half. Remember how Alt tells you Johnny's memories are basically him lying to himself? She's not wrong. Morgan Blackhand and Militech nuked the tower, Johnny's team was a distraction.

I came from the viewpoint that whatever pre-existing lore was retconned as they willed and that the stuff in 2077 was what they wanted to be cannon. Anything not directly contradicted holds from the TTRPG. But us doing anything more is just writing it for them at that point.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

I came from the viewpoint that whatever pre-existing lore was retconned as they willed and that the stuff in 2077 was what they wanted to be cannon. Anything not directly contradicted holds from the TTRPG. But us doing anything more is just writing it for them at that point.

The head devs in an interview said that Alt is correct and Johnny's memories are faulty, and Pondsmith has come out and said the original lore is still correct.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Cyberpunk 2077 Generated Over $750 Million In Revenue After 2023 Comeback (Archive)

 

[Super Hans v2]

Makes sense then why they put so much effort into patches and Phantom Liberty. With the budget being $400M+ it didn't make a profit until after the expansion; it was a do or die like when they had to choose between porting W1 or finishing W2.

 

[FedPostalService]

while America is a collapsed lawless wasteland

so just like real life?

 

[Climaxing Sunset]

so just like real life?

Nah far worse. The NUSA in cyberpunk is basically a third world shithole, and large parts of the country have roaming bands of mass murderers, cults and nomads. Imagine 80s America x 100.

 

[PuffyGroundCloud]

The better question is how did Arasaka end up with Johnny's soulkilled construct at all, since it was Spider Murphy who used it on him as he was dying in the helicopter after Adam Smasher blew him in half. Remember how Alt tells you Johnny's memories are basically him lying to himself? She's not wrong. Morgan Blackhand and Militech nuked the tower, Johnny's team was a distraction.

Spoiler: Gayme Theory

Rogue sold the engram to Arasaka as a part of the deal?
Also, Johnny is basically inhaling copium that dang dirty Arasaka ruined his life.

 

[Enig]

The better question is how did Arasaka end up with Johnny's soulkilled construct at all, since it was Spider Murphy who used it on him as he was dying in the helicopter after Adam Smasher blew him in half. Remember how Alt tells you Johnny's memories are basically him lying to himself? She's not wrong. Morgan Blackhand and Militech nuked the tower, Johnny's team was a distraction.

it's been implied between some interactions in 2077 and RED's lore examples that the engram was reacquired after a raid ordered by Yorinobu on the storage box that had Johnny's irradiated upper torso after the body was moved by someone implied to be a physical person made using a partial split of Alt's netsurfing engram and one of the nomads she hired for that job narced on the whole thing. It's also imblied that Johnny's faulty memory might be less guilt tripping and more they shoved him into Mikoshi along with the brain scans of other people involved to crossref them all and fuck with him personally.

 

[Snekposter]

it's been implied between some interactions in 2077 and RED's lore examples that the engram was reacquired after a raid ordered by Yorinobu on the storage box that had Johnny's irradiated upper torso after the body was moved by someone implied to be a physical person made using a partial split of Alt's netsurfing engram and one of the nomads she hired for that job narced on the whole thing. It's also imblied that Johnny's faulty memory might be less guilt tripping and more they shoved him into Mikoshi along with the brain scans of other people involved to crossref them all and fuck with him personally.

In one of Johnny's talks he mentions that Arasaka was messing with his mind while he was in Mikoshi, so the impression I got was that they were creating their ideal Silverhand, a deranged screaming whacko chanting for Total Arasaka Death as a means of discrediting any opposition.

 

[Dandelions]

This is a CD Projekt Red related thing, but it involves Cyberpunk 2077:
Remember when they got hit by a ransomware and announced they didn't pay (A) the ransom in 2021, well it was by a group call HelloKitty (A). After that it was auction for a high price, GWENT source code was leaked first (A), it got sold (A), and then later, an announcement (A), and finally on June 2021 the rest of the big files where shared but password protected. (A) The group had some things happen (A & A) to them during the time, but recently rebranded into "HelloGookie" and released the passwords/keys (A) to their previously leaked files of the source code for their games. They appeared on the "exploit.in" (Tor) forums to announce the keys and rebranding (Can't link it since having trouble with Tor Network timing out on my end), but the passwords, and files, were shared on a leaked source code sharing thread on /t/orrents (A) if you'll like to download around 762 GB and test it out yourself.

File Directory Listing of what to expect:

Apologizes if the hyperlinking is too much or unorganized, nobody expected this to resurface again.