Cyberpunk 2077 Grieving Thread

[TheDarknessGrows]

Yes.
Try to partition anything you've heard from your head and just play it like a normal game because most of the criticism was overblown or straight bullshit (even at launch).

Oh man it's cool. I like video games. As long as it is playable and not completely retarded I will enjoy it.

This one seemed outright unplayable when it dropped.

 

[Mega Black]

I just really like this game for some reason

To me, it has a lot of the same appeal a Bethesda game does but with the added benefit of having a not-shit combat system and a not-shit (mostly) main quest. It's a very fun game to just run around in, explore, and live out the fantasy of being a sci-fi merc.

dont even think the story is bad

The only issues I really have with the narrative is that it is at odds with the gameplay itself. The ONE line from Doc about how you only have a week or two to live at most annihilates the pacing. You should not be able to spend weeks fucking around doing odd jobs and building your rep with that hanging over your head.

This one seemed outright unplayable when it dropped.

It was, but the final product now is pretty good.

 

[Super Hans v2]

This one seemed outright unplayable when it dropped.

I'm starting to think that that was complete horseshit too. Sony de-listed the game, yes, but CDPR thought that asking for a refund was acceptable on their store like on GOG. The game made it past cert, so it's obvious the quality wasn't an issue.

 

[Involuntary Celebrity]

I'm starting to think that that was complete horseshit too. Sony de-listed the game, yes, but CDPR thought that asking for a refund was acceptable on their store like on GOG. The game made it past cert, so it's obvious the quality wasn't an issue.

Well, that's complicated by the fact that Sony had a policy of not allowing games to have differences between the base and Pro console versions (or something) so it's possible Sony both prevented them optimising the base builds (or releasing Pro-only? I don't remember) on top of being responsible for letting it slip through cert due to politics over not wanting to change that policy. I'm prepared to believe people who bought it to play on a base console were fucked.

But yeah the shit people were saying online was definitely largely disingenuous. I saw so many "bug compilation" videos which were clipped down from longer videos I'd seen elsewhere to hide the fact that they were doing shit like grinding a vehicle into a staircase at a weird angle for 60 seconds to break the physics.
Like speedrun-level glitch setups required to get shots of cars being upside-down.

I played at launch and the only issues I ran into were some minor UI bugs in the inventory menu, and that one hilarious yeet window in the desert. No fucky pedestrian streaming issues or anything.

 

[JimiHendrix]

The ONE line from Doc about how you only have a week or two to live at most annihilates the pacing.

to be fair that's true of almost literally every open world game. i always increase the "world time" to like 80x in my head. in Fallout 3 you go into a new world you've never been before, save several cities, find your father, fight in a war, and save/destroy the wasteland, and you can do that in about a week and a half.

my personal lil head canon is cyberpunk 2077 takes place over like, a year and a half, which in all fucking honesty, is still pretty bad news to get? i wouldn't be happy if a doctor told me I had a year and a half left to live.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

my personal lil head canon is cyberpunk 2077 takes place over like, a year and a half, which in all fucking honesty, is still pretty bad news to get? i wouldn't be happy if a doctor told me I had a year and a half left to live.

The DLC ending is the only certain way to cure yourself without recurring to headcanon (like the other endings).

• Arasaka ending with Takemura converts you into a engram. Hellman just throws you into the pit.
• Sun ending is ambigous about your health at best about assalting the Crystal Palace. Same as Star.
• Temperance is ambigous about Johnny, not you.
• Suicide ending is obvious.

And i'm sure between Act 1 (when Dex shots you in the head) & Act 2... 6+ months has passed.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

I could have sworn the game makes it a point to state the game takes place over the course of like a month, maybe month and a half tops.

 

[Tinnitus]

And i'm sure between Act 1 (when Dex shots you in the head) & Act 2... 6+ months has passed.

NC's apartment price is monthly and V took a tab from Vic for the Kiroshi's & Hand thing.

There are also some time sensitive events that would happen right after the Konpeki Heist such as Jackie's ofrenda, Goro contacting Oda, the Relish actively overwriting V's brain and news stations talking about Saburo's death.

I'd guess that one week passed or at max. a month

 

[Tor Lugosi]

The game was just painfully mediocre, save for the aesthetics, I guess. The only time I see people talking about it anymore is when fans are seething at the haters and/or the haters are seething at the fans. See: this thread.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

It was the Netflix anime. I'm serious.

Oh that's definitely a huge part of it. People coming back after the mediocre anime to find out it's "better" (less buggy with basic QOL features) and touting it as the greatest comeback in history, despite shitting on it prior. "It was never bad" and whatnot. They might be right in the "better" department, such a horrible release to actually playable (to more people) is certainly a comeback, but not a win that people think it is, because it shouldn't have happened in the first place.

I got it but didn't start the game yet. The intro was neat.

Is the game good?

Honestly if you have the game, you better play it first than ask around. Just note that the intro is probably where they spent the most time, tricking people into thinking it's only uphill from here, until you realize why it's (for most people) beyond the refund time, on Steam at least. I find that the foundation is awful and people gaslight themselves into liking it more than they should because the admittedly nice atmosphere. Said atmosphere is only in certain areas of course, some places look a lot worse, and not in the good kind where it's intentional. It's not completely terrible, there's redeeming qualities, but just know by the time you get into the worst the game has to offer you're well beyond the refund time. People who disregard the rightful criticism of this game are usually hypocrites who will go on to lambast another game and probably 180 on their opinion depending on the direction of the wind. However the game is indeed far "better" than it was at launch so only look for recent reviews if you want to see what exactly the state of the game is. If you disliked the game outside of the bugs like me, you won't find much different.

The game was just painfully mediocre, save for the aesthetics, I guess. The only time I see people talking about it anymore is when fans are seething at the haters and/or the haters are seething at the fans. See: this thread.

Pretty much, painfully mediocre is apt and the only people who care enough to engage with one another outside of echo chambers are just throwing shit at each other like you said. Worse yet is that when I do see people shitting on it they always shit on the unimportant stuff rather than the foundation this game is built upon. "Muh bugs" are only temporary concerns so long as the devs patch them, which they mostly did. The people praising it I would call grifters but that would imply they aren't doing it for free, they will 180 on their opinion just because a few bugs were fixed and deny that they ever hated the game and that the game was always good and whatnot, like I mentioned prior. Now, like the game all you want, let no one take away your opinion except you, but to call it good is a stretch. Funny, soon as I say that my dog started to stretch.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

I'm still convinced that a LOT of the people that came back to it and thought it was the greatest comeback ever came back to it from a base PS4 to a PS5.

I mean, it wasn't great but the game on (my) PC was "fine" at release compared to the complete shitshow that was the base PS4/XB1 version.

It's the only way I can comprehend anyone thinking that it was one of the greatest gaming comebacks because to me it was just too little too late, but I didn't have to deal with load times, unloaded textures, t posing and the game literally bricking my machine at launch either.

 

[ZMOT]

I'm starting to think that that was complete horseshit too. Sony de-listed the game, yes, but CDPR thought that asking for a refund was acceptable on their store like on GOG. The game made it past cert, so it's obvious the quality wasn't an issue.

sony doesn't do refunds, nor is CDPR in charge of playstation store policy. them basically jumping the gun to save their image most likely pissed off sony hard.

I'm still convinced that a LOT of the people that came back to it and thought it was the greatest comeback ever came back to it from a base PS4 to a PS5.

I mean, it wasn't great but the game on (my) PC was "fine" at release compared to the complete shitshow that was the base PS4/XB1 version.

It's the only way I can comprehend anyone thinking that it was one of the greatest gaming comebacks because to me it was just too little too late, but I didn't have to deal with load times, unloaded textures, t posing and the game literally bricking my machine at launch either.

that argument never held any water. GTA5 and sleeping dogs released on the fucking ps3, now add when the game was initially announced and ps5 basically being nonexistent in 2020 (unless you were willing to give your stimmy-check to some scalper).
CDPR fucked up, plain and simple.

 

[Tor Lugosi]

Yeah, I didn't run into any ruinous bugs. A couple of graphical glitches and the occasional crash was the worst of it. Mostly I found the gameplay & combat uninspired, I didn't like the main plot nor Silverhand, thought most of the writing was bland, and only a few quests caught my attention. Overall I thought it was a very mid 6/10 game.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

beyond the refund time

Oh don't worry I stole it.

sleeping dogs

That was a neat game!! Maybe I will replay Sleeping Dogs.

 

[ZMOT]

Yeah, I didn't run into any ruinous bugs. A couple of graphical glitches and the occasional crash was the worst of it. Mostly I found the gameplay & combat uninspired, I didn't like the main plot nor Silverhand, thought most of the writing was bland, and only a few quests caught my attention. Overall I thought it was a very mid 6/10 game.

don't forget the hype and fake trailer, the technical issues were only part of the whole fuckup. CDPR literally made shit up constantly, basically from day one, with almost nothing making it into the final game besides some remnants here and there.
say what you want but even star citizen only rips off boomers with expensive jpgs...

 

[Snekposter]

to be fair that's true of almost literally every open world game. i always increase the "world time" to like 80x in my head. in Fallout 3 you go into a new world you've never been before, save several cities, find your father, fight in a war, and save/destroy the wasteland, and you can do that in about a week and a half.

my personal lil head canon is cyberpunk 2077 takes place over like, a year and a half, which in all fucking honesty, is still pretty bad news to get? i wouldn't be happy if a doctor told me I had a year and a half left to live.

Kingdom Come: Deliverance has a blacksmith's son go from a nobody to a badass master swordsman in the space of just a few weeks, as that's the time frame mentioned by one of your friends in the game towards the end. You really do need to just shrug and go "Eh, gameplay reasons" for all of this.

If you rewatch the flashbacks from the big nuke op one of them cuts to a location Johnny was never at with someone walking out of the building, it's a subtle way of implying that his memories weren't just messed up by either radiation or his own ego but that he got some of Blackhand's mixed in during torture sessions and now thinks he was a total hardass that set off multiple nukes by himself

I've always maintained that the Johnny we got was a deliberate creation by Arasaka to create the perfect bad faith actor that would discredit any and all grassroots opposition. He's an alcoholic, drug-abusing, self-centered psychopath who almost intentionally burns every bridge he builds and spews a mix of shit you'd hear from conspiracy theorists and first-year college students who have just started reading The Communist Manifesto.

 

[JimiHendrix]

Kingdom Come: Deliverance has a blacksmith's son go from a nobody to a badass master swordsman in the space of just a few weeks

henry can go from entirely and completely illiterate to able to read perfectly fine in the span of one day.

 

[Super Hans v2]

don't forget the hype and fake trailer

You mean this 45 minute gameplay demo from two a half years before release?

People are really pitching a fit over wallrunning being cut? Otherwise if you take out the UI being a straight upgrade, it's basically the same as what we got. People just got overhyped because they're are mongoloid retards who never knew CDPR existed before Witcher 3 and thought if that was their freshman title, just imagine what they could do with a proper AAAAA budget.

What's your point? The RPG genre is so varied it's almost meaningless. Diablo is nothing like Fallout 2 which is nothing like Final Fantasy with is nothing like Witcher which is nothing like Deus Ex which is nothing like Chrono Trigger which is nothing like Mass Effect. Well, almost nothing, they all abstract character growth and replace player skill to some level, which Cyberpunk also does.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Is that time of of the year where we all pretend that CP2077 was really just some uWu misunderstood actually super amazing game at launch?

 

[Sniperwoof]

Is that time of of the year where we all pretend that CP2077 was really just some uWu misunderstood actually super amazing game at launch?

Literally no one is saying that, don't be disingenuous.

People are saying it was broken as fuck at launch and after the 2.0 reboot and Phantom Liberty DLC it is now a perfectly serviceable and enjoyable 7.5 maybe 8/10 game.

That's pretty fair and hardly an outrageous statement. It's basically my own view on the matter.