Cyberpunk 2077 Grieving Thread

I'm afraid to read the thread. I have just one question, just one singular question:

Is the game:

A ) Breathtaking
B ) The kind of "nice playground with no content" that Fallout 4 was
C ) A lesson on why one should not say "wintermute" in relation to a game that doesn't live up to the term
D ) An object lesson in how crunchtime development is killing the industry and ruining the quality of games being output

I cannot conceive of any alternatives I'd care about, as it's really a question of where my money's going and what I've been hearing. I've mostly been hearing it is not breathtaking, is devoid of content although it looks pretty, it does not observe cyberpunk themes at all, and it clearly suffered from abusing the developers too much. Also it's buggy as shit and not worth the money.

Listening to everyone talk, it may legitimately be the first game I know of that CDPR has to put in the loss column, too, which is remarkable by itself.
 
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Gallifrey said:
I'm afraid to read the thread. I have just one question, just one singular question:

Is the game:

A ) Breathtaking
B ) The kind of "nice playground with no content" that Fallout 4 was
C ) A lesson on why one should not say "wintermute" in relation to a game that doesn't live up to the term
D ) An object lesson in how crunchtime development is killing the industry and ruining the quality of games being output

I cannot conceive of any alternatives I'd care about, as it's really a question of where my money's going and what I've been hearing. I've mostly been hearing it is not breathtaking, is devoid of content although it looks pretty, it does not observe cyberpunk themes at all, and it clearly suffered from abusing the developers too much. Also it's buggy as shit and not worth the money.

Listening to everyone talk, it may legitimately be the first game I know of that CDPR has to put in the loss column, too, which is remarkable by itself.
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It's like the opposite of B. Terrible playground but a good story and sidequests. I doubt it's going to go in the loss column, especially considering it sold like hotcakes and the first release of the first Witcher was much worse, it's just that CDPR is going to have reckon with the fact that they're basically Ubisoft now: overpromising on 7/10 games that are buggy as fuck.

I don't know how the game doesn't have cyberpunk themes unless you were expecting far-left shit or more esoteric cyberpunk like Lain.
 
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Gallifrey said:
D ) An object lesson in how crunchtime development is killing the industry and ruining the quality of games being output
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Hard to say if there was true crunch in the first place, since OT laws in Poland are pretty strict (8 hours of overtime per week, max) and we're going into "Did they do something illegal or not" territory.

Did they do illegal overtime? Then it sure doesn't show.
Did they do everything kosher? Then an extra 8 hour per week is meaningless for the type of game this is, and I sure as hell would have made sure my own extra time were still in the weekdays. You don't get anything done by having an extra 1 hour and a half per day, productivity just drops off considerably.
 
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Hard to say if there was true crunch in the first place, since OT laws in Poland are pretty strict (8 hours of overtime per week, max) and we're going into "Did they do something illegal or not" territory.

Did they do illegal overtime? Then it sure doesn't show.
Did they do everything kosher? Then an extra 8 hour per week is meaningless for the type of game this is, and I sure as hell would have made sure my own extra time were still in the weekdays. You don't get anything done by having an extra 1 hour and a half per day, productivity just drops off considerably.
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you know, if you're are employed as contractor, then overtime laws don't apply to you in Poland IIRC
 
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you know, if you're are employed as contractor, then overtime laws don't apply to you in Poland IIRC
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Still applies knowing the peeps capable of actually fixing the game aren't going to be the contractors.

I can throw as many testers and artists at the game as I want, that ain't going fix shit. Unless the programmers are also contractors, then holy fuck they're screwed.
 
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Honestly the one thing redeeming about all this is the massive salt from troons about the romance options.
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Gallifrey said:
D ) An object lesson in how crunchtime development is killing the industry and ruining the quality of games being output
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I don’t know why people focus solely on Crunch. This has been in development for 8 years, it literally had all the time in the world to get it right. Management is really to blame for this mess.
 
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Cure Milquetoast said:
Honestly the one thing redeeming about all this is the massive salt from troons about the romance options.
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I find this hilarious. One of the biggest issues I saw tumblr bitches have with Mass Effect was that you could fuck just about anyone. Now they are upset that characters actually have preferences?

Fucking degenerates thinking they're entitled to fuck whatever they want.

This isn't even getting into the fact that all of the love interests in Cyberpunk 2077 seem annoying and/or ugly as fuck.
 
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Honestly the one thing redeeming about all this is the massive salt from troons about the romance options.
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That's one of the grating things about our current state of affairs is how I can't make it through any articles of this game without being bludgeoned with wailing about trans mental midget bullshit and railing against capitalism.
It's like fucking hell you small minded faggot journalist, take a look at how the chicoms just strong armed GOG into removing support for that game.
That isn't "capitalism" at play.
 
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Gallifrey said:
I'm afraid to read the thread. I have just one question, just one singular question:

Is the game:

A ) Breathtaking
B ) The kind of "nice playground with no content" that Fallout 4 was
C ) A lesson on why one should not say "wintermute" in relation to a game that doesn't live up to the term
D ) An object lesson in how crunchtime development is killing the industry and ruining the quality of games being output

I cannot conceive of any alternatives I'd care about, as it's really a question of where my money's going and what I've been hearing. I've mostly been hearing it is not breathtaking, is devoid of content although it looks pretty, it does not observe cyberpunk themes at all, and it clearly suffered from abusing the developers too much. Also it's buggy as shit and not worth the money.

Listening to everyone talk, it may legitimately be the first game I know of that CDPR has to put in the loss column, too, which is remarkable by itself.
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It's first-person GTA with cyberware and Borderlands loot, basically. Which is enough for me to play it and have a good time, but it's nowhere near all the lofty promises they were making back a year or so ago.
 
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I think the loot system might be arguably the worst part of the game for me so far. Ignoring the bugs, glitches, cut content I feel like after every goddamn encounter I run around like in Diablo hoovering up everything in sight and then hopping into the awful inventory system and just checking: IF newWeaponNum || newArmourNum > currentWeapon && currentArmour and then cycling through everything until I look like the infamous trash-hobo everyone talks about. Then you get to disassemble everything one at a time (is there a way to just toggle or check items and perform a single action on them all that I'm missing?) until you have basically recycled all the garbage cluttering your backpack. Rinse and repeat for every fucking encounter.

If they had made it that only special enemies dropped better equipment or it could only be found at vendors or in futuristic treasure chests it'd be more tolerable but currently it's just grabbing everything and then sorting through to see if the crap you picked up is slightly better than the crap you are currently using. Maybe it's my OCD compelling me but so far it feels super tedious.
 
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Bunny Tracks said:
Okay, so, this is really strange.

There seems to be a glitch, or random event where NPCs will just throw themselves off buildings and kill themselves. Has anyone else experienced this?
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They became self aware and couldn't handle being in a shitty game.
But yes I've seen it before, I think it's an event. I stood around once and a couple cops came up and starting emoting at it.
 
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The bugs are amusing, but it's the part and parcell of any open world game at this point. (or the last decade or so)
I heard that the game sold like 15 million copies. Is that even possible?
 
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The bugs are amusing, but it's the part and parcell of any open world game at this point. (or the last decade or so)
I heard that the game sold like 15 million copies. Is that even possible?
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They'll probably brag about the sales now but the returns are hurting them like crazy last I heard
 
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Bunny Tracks said:
Okay, so, this is really strange.

There seems to be a glitch, or random event where NPCs will just throw themselves off buildings and kill themselves. Has anyone else experienced this?
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Have there been any games in recent memory where glitches like NPC are throwing themselves off of random buildings? I would laugh if this started to become a random trend for game devs to start doing this.
 
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