Daniel Micay / strcat / strncat / thestinger / GrapheneOS - Schizo software programmer and developer of GrapheneOS Android ROM. Starts drama with everyone and accuses them of harassment. Chronic brigader and bridge burner.

  • 🐕 I am attempting to get the site runnning as fast as possible. If you are experiencing slow page load times, please report it.
Since he started tard raging in public, I started to be suspicious of the GrapheneOS claim of being backdoor free.
Yes, GrapheneOS is pretty hardened compared to other OSes and has good protections, but I am very suspicious of highly praised status of the OS with no criticism (impossible to have perfect software, without bugs) and Micay shitting on other projects, like competition isn't good. He went after Bromite, F-Droid, etc.
Exactly. They seemingly target projects that prevent walled gardens and privacy invasions (FUTO, F-DROID, browsers, etc). "Only vanadium is safe" yet there's no way to do any serious adblocking in vanadium. You can't even watch YT vids in picture-in-picture mode anymore using vanadium. They say everything with adblocking is unsafe - no exceptions. Then any debate instantly devolves into, "only air gapping is secure" - perfect gaslighting for anyone who's poking around to reveal agendas. Judging by the amount of hard left and anon members of the dev team (all of them as far as I can tell) - I can't see how it isn't a gov op / honeypot. And what verifiably legit org has the resources to audit a smartphone OS? The biggest red flags to me are known ops like Snowden doing free marketing for it. Not to mention they're all consistently allied with (((Signal))). All I hear is: "if you're gonna blow the whistle and tell on us, then it is really important that you use Signal!" Of course I list these as red flags because I have no hard evidence besides a life time of pattern recognition which always turns out to gel on issues such as these.
 
Last edited:
Exactly. They seemingly target projects that prevent walled gardens and privacy invasions (FUTO, F-DROID, browsers, etc). "Only vanadium is safe" yet there's no way to do any serious adblocking in vanadium. You can't even watch YT vids in picture-in-picture mode anymore using vanadium. They say everything with adblocking is unsafe - no exceptions. Then any debate instantly devolves into, "only air gapping is secure" - perfect gaslighting for anyone who's poking around to reveal agendas. Judging by the amount of hard left and anon members of the dev team (all of them as far as I can tell) - I can't see how it isn't a gov op / honeypot. And what verifiably legit org has the resources to audit a smartphone OS? The biggest red flags to me are known ops like Snowden doing free marketing for it. Not to mention they're all consistently allied with (((Signal))). All I hear is: "if you're gonna blow the whistle and tell on us, then it is really important that you use Signal!" Of course I list these as red flags because I have no hard evidence besides a life time of pattern recognition which always turns out to gel on issues such as these.
I think it's just because they're SECURITY schizos, they dont care about privacy or FOSS that much
 
I think it's just because they're SECURITY schizos, they dont care about privacy or FOSS that much
But as a part time security schitzo myself, I'd feel schitzo about getting automatic updates from a remote source that despite being testable and reproducible - are really not easy to verify what you think you're getting until after you get them. And, as a schitzo, it feels contrived the way they separate security and privacy. If you're trying to secure information, then it is private, right? Once 100% of your phone is public, then what is there to secure - nothing, right? Yes, I realize there are 100 ways to sling mud onto this argument... And the way they immediately say, "well you have to trust someone" as soon as you question their security model triggers my schitz. That is, they're security schitzos in a very specific way that is somehow specifically at odds with the variety of security schitzo that does not trust government or the biggest corps (Google). In this way it feels more like an offshoot of FAANG/NSA/friends than a proper agnostic security schitzoid flavor, which naturally seems like it should be the security schitzoid default. At its core we are trusting closed source / black box Titan M architecture from Google.

CalyxOS is pretty good. Not as hardcore about security as Graphene, but still decent.
Yes, that is what GrapheneOS says in so many words... But it seems hard to know.
 
Last edited:
So, I decided to try GrapheneOS and let me tell you: this thing doesn't support transfer of your date from old phone. Which is pain in the ass let me tell you. Despise that seems like an ok cfw.
 
I don't know about you guys but I can't justify entrusting my privacy, security and data to software written by a man who is clearly severely mentally ill. I mean it's not the biggest shock to see that someone who writes anti-intrusion software is going to be a bit paranoid, in fact I'd hope that to some extent. You want the people writing mission-critical software to be really passionate about its purpose. But Micay is on the wrong side of paranoid, he sees imaginary enemies and conspiracies everywhere, and as a relative tech boomer I only have his word for it that he hasn't added backdoors to spy on his imaginary enemies. Plus as @Regular_Non_Spy_Phone pointed out, there are other concerns about how the project seems a bit too astroturfed. "Well you have to trust someone" is true, but I don't trust Daniel Micay because he's out of his fucking mind.
 
I feel that but there must be a better option... Stock is overtly a honeypot instead of covertly one. Maybe something like LineageOS? I wonder how much a pinephone sucks to use these days.
Late to the party but I'd recommend Postmarket OS if you can find one of the supported devices. Been using it on a OnePlus 6T and it works like a charm, haven't had any glaring issues yet. Might not be as secure as Graphene out of the box, but its still leaps and bounds better than stock.
 
Late to the party but I'd recommend Postmarket OS if you can find one of the supported devices. Been using it on a OnePlus 6T and it works like a charm, haven't had any glaring issues yet. Might not be as secure as Graphene out of the box, but its still leaps and bounds better than stock.

Honestly, I wish... But I already have computers; I need a reliable smartphone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLl4-82vZ7A
Still on GOS for now unfortunately.
 
  • Feels
Reactions: Ferryman
Article popped up in my random shit feed today about how Catalan cops think you're a drug dealer if you have a Pixel because the gangs love GrapheneOS there. Apparently the devs a little upset about it.

European authoritarians and their enablers in the media are misrepresenting GrapheneOS and even Pixel phones as if they’re something for criminals. GrapheneOS is opposed to the mass surveillance police state these people want to impose on everyone.

Even though Daniel Micay is right this time, I wish he did not always say things in the most over-the-top, hostile, accusatory, and rude way possible. He could have just said that the article misrepresents GrapheneOS as something for criminals rather than for everyone to oppose mass surveillance. Or at least he can just say that the journalists are mistaken. Instead, he has to call them "enablers" of "authoritarians", and he has to accuse them of something.

There is never any room for alternative explanations. In this case, for example, it could not possibly be that the journalists made a mistake, or that they are badly informed, or that he and the journalists have a disagreement or a difference of opinion. For him, there is never any room for there to be a difference of opinion between reasonable people. In fact, there is rarely if ever any room for dissent at all. If you dissent, you are accused of literally harming the project or something.

In my opinion, putting someone like Daniel Micay in charge of social media management is a terrible mistake. It would even be better to hire a soulless PR person to do it for the project.
 
Daniel Micay has a new enemy, and he is... some rando named Matija Nalis.
mnalis01.webp
mnalis02.webp
mnalis03.webp

No seriously, who the fuck is this guy? I don't even know what projects he works on. But I'll file this under F-Droid since Daniel had a spergout on the F-Droid issue tracker.
mnalis04.webp
mnalis05.webp
mnalis06.webp
source (a)

It's weird how there's so many enemies and harassers of GrapheneOS and no other project gets so much negative attention like this. Surely this is a sign that everybody else is the asshole and not that Daniel is the asshole here, he can do no wrong.
mnalis07.webp
mnalis08.webp
source (a)

Look, let's assume Daniel is right and F-Droid is wrong on the technical merits. He could have just calmly explained on the tracker why they were wrong and left it at that. Instead, he decided to escalate it and frame it like they spread "misinformation and libel" (on an issue tracker 99% of F-Droid users won't ever read), post a response on his own site and Matrix, tardrage about Louis Rossmann and Kiwi Farms, threaten to smear the name of F-Droid to "multiple organizations", lump them in with another enemy (Calyx), etc.

It's all so tiresome.

Edit:
mnalis09.webp
Lies so far: "The Rossmann/Techlore videos have fabrications/no context!"
:story: Dumb motherfuckers. I've said it before and I'll say it again, more context makes Daniel Micay look worse, not better. No amount of context justifies accusing people of crimes they didn't do.

mnalis10.webp
More lies: "Rossmann still uses GOS"

matchboxbananasynergy really hates this thread. I have a tip for you: You don't have to read it! Nobody is forcing you to.
mnalis11.webp
mnalis12.webp
source (a)
 
Last edited:
Even though Daniel Micay is right this time, I wish he did not always say things in the most over-the-top, hostile, accusatory, and rude way possible. He could have just said that the article misrepresents GrapheneOS as something for criminals rather than for everyone to oppose mass surveillance. Or at least he can just say that the journalists are mistaken. Instead, he has to call them "enablers" of "authoritarians", and he has to accuse them of something.

There is never any room for alternative explanations. In this case, for example, it could not possibly be that the journalists made a mistake, or that they are badly informed, or that he and the journalists have a disagreement or a difference of opinion. For him, there is never any room for there to be a difference of opinion between reasonable people. In fact, there is rarely if ever any room for dissent at all. If you dissent, you are accused of literally harming the project or something.

In my opinion, putting someone like Daniel Micay in charge of social media management is a terrible mistake. It would even be better to hire a soulless PR person to do it for the project.
Have you seen A&N articles lately? They are getting more authoritarian.
 
  • Thunk-Provoking
Reactions: Markass the Worst
matchboxbananasynergy really hates this thread. I have a tip for you: You don't have to read it! Nobody is forcing you to.
mnalis11.webp
I searched the thread via a few relevant word options and there doesn't seem to be any instances of anyone telling Daniel to kill himself. Let alone repeatedly.

I would also note that Daniel could just not do what random people on internet forums tell him to do and this wouldn't be a problem for him he needs to care about.
 
Have you seen A&N articles lately? They are getting more authoritarian.

I guess that my point is that Micay does not have any interest in assuming a good faith interpretation when it comes to anything or anyone. If anything, he assumes the worst-faith interpretation, even when that interpretation is not realistic at all. And then he goes and accuses people based on that. Plus he has no ability to tolerate dissent or different opinions- a very authoritarian impulse.

I wish that Tomas, matchbox bananasynergy, etc., would stop enabling Daniel's delusional thinking. It is like they are cultists without any ability for independent thought. I do not know if they are crazy or just dishonest.
 
Micay is now threatening to sue Matija Nalis, whoever he is. From his github profile it looks like he mainly contributes to Open Street Map. I'm still not sure exactly what he said to set off Micay. I think Danny goes off his meds on the weekend.

mnalis.webp

mnalis2.webp

mnalis3.webp

mnalis4.webp

mnalis5.webp

Original (archive)

A couple of interesting things to note...

First, Micay says the swatting was attempted murder for "... myself and my family." I can't believe he is married or has kids, so does that mean he lives with his parents?

Second, it's a pretty good rule that people who are going to sue just sue, they don't talk about it first. The more someone tries to intimidate with threat of legal action, the less likely they are to actually do it. Micay has been talking about legal action against Calyx/Techlore for years and hasn't done shit. In fact, the statute of limitations has probably expired on those.

Third, any defamation case would have to come from Micay personally, and not the GrapheneOS foundation. Given that he was the one defamed (not GOS or the foundation), it would be him filing suit. That means he would have to use his own personal funds, not any funds from the foundation. Filing a frivolous lawsuit on behalf of the foundation could be a breach of fiduciary duty.

Fourth, even if he did file a defamation claim on behalf of the foundation, it would be extremely difficult to prove damages. They would have to show a significant drop in donations as a result of Nalis' claims, which seems highly unlikely (to say the least).

And fifth, Nalis would have a pretty strong defamation claim of his own, given that Micay has explicitly stated that he wants to publish information about Nalis in order to tarnish his reputation, which is one of the key elements of defamation just about anywhere.
 
Back