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Will suprczy actually file a lolsuit against Philip Paul Burnell?

  • Yes

    Votes: 34 18.4%
  • No

    Votes: 162 87.6%

  • Total voters
    185
I figure the money he makes from TBS and from WPIG is more than what he makes with his translation job but he keeps his day job so he doesn't have to 100% rely on DSP to feed Chu and his children.
I remember ALT saying that most of the translation work is done by AI and he's just fixing mistakes/weird translations. I do not remember the exact stream but it was earlier this year. It doesn't take more than a few braincells to realize that this kind of work has a very short shelf life. Once the AI reaches a sufficient level that all he's reporting back to his bosses is that the AI translation was spot on and no correction was needed that he'll be getting the boot. I don't think he's a stupid person so I wouldn't expect him to think transitioning in to a full time detractor is a viable employment option but that's up to him.
 
I remember ALT saying that most of the translation work is done by AI and he's just fixing mistakes/weird translations. I do not remember the exact stream but it was earlier this year. It doesn't take more than a few braincells to realize that this kind of work has a very short shelf life. Once the AI reaches a sufficient level that all he's reporting back to his bosses is that the AI translation was spot on and no correction was needed that he'll be getting the boot. I don't think he's a stupid person so I wouldn't expect him to think transitioning in to a full time detractor is a viable employment option but that's up to him.
Yeah, if he doesn't or hasn't already pivoted to more specialized shit (scientific, medical, engineering, you can already guess what else) or interpreting he's fucked. Using machine translation and then fixing its mistakes has been standard practice for over a decade but like you said it's just a matter of time until it gets everything correct, that's why translation of general texts is gonna be on its way out if tech develops the way it's developing.
 
Yeah, if he doesn't or hasn't already pivoted to more specialized shit (scientific, medical, engineering, you can already guess what else) or interpreting he's fucked. Using machine translation and then fixing its mistakes has been standard practice for over a decade but like you said it's just a matter of time until it gets everything correct, that's why translation of general texts is gonna be on its way out if tech develops the way it's developing.
I remember ALT saying that most of the translation work is done by AI and he's just fixing mistakes/weird translations. I do not remember the exact stream but it was earlier this year. It doesn't take more than a few braincells to realize that this kind of work has a very short shelf life. Once the AI reaches a sufficient level that all he's reporting back to his bosses is that the AI translation was spot on and no correction was needed that he'll be getting the boot. I don't think he's a stupid person so I wouldn't expect him to think transitioning in to a full time detractor is a viable employment option but that's up to him.
Even at its current state, MTL is far from perfect. Sure, MTL will continue to improve with AI (as it has for the last 65+ years), but you're always going to need someone to verify those translations are correct. The most likely scenario is that the industry will shrink around 80% as most translators basically become multilingual editors. And the government is always looking for spooks translators for political documents.

Remember: the more complex a program is, the more complicated its fuckups are, as many companies who jumped the AI gun are finding out the hard way.
 
Tonight, King Sly and Rich went at it on a live stream. Both Sly and Rich streamed, and I watched Rich’s stream. I unsubscribed from Sly for a while. I’ll try to catch you all up—I’ve been listening to a lot of this, so if I get anything wrong, please correct me. But here’s my take on the situation: Linx was tied to doxxing Italian Stallion on another Discord outside of the Lolcow Live server. Lolcow Live has a zero-tolerance policy—no ops. Linx then ran to Sly’s stream to tell her side of the story. Now, I don’t know much about the Linx server, so I can’t say much there. Rich was in that server and ended up getting banned from the Lolcow Discord. Keemstar wants nothing to do with ops. Grace was originally on Lolcow Queens when it started but got booted, and so was Linx. Both were former hosts for Lolcow Queens. Sly brought them both on his show to tear down Rich. Now, I’m no fan of Rich—I’m here for entertainment. But on top of all this, Grace has a PDF father who sexually assaulted her and kicked her. He went to jail for a short time. Rich, trying to make content, jokingly said Grace should show up to his house in a chicken suit if a goal was hit. Keem, as a host and producer, has to fire people he doesn’t see fit. And Sly, being the clout goblin that he is, got both Linx and Grace on his show.
King Sly thinks he can take on Lolcow Live and the entire Lolcow universe, but he needs to pick his battles wisely. Lolcow Live and Queens are making bank, while Sly is playing with real fire—and it’s only a matter of time before he gets burned.​
I feel like I'm reading a DSP prestream lmao. But thanks for the info nonetheless.
 
Even at its current state, MTL is far from perfect. Sure, MTL will continue to improve with AI (as it has for the last 65+ years), but you're always going to need someone to verify those translations are correct. The most likely scenario is that the industry will shrink around 80% as most translators basically become multilingual editors. And the government is always looking for spooks translators for political documents.

Remember: the more complex a program is, the more complicated its fuckups are, as many companies who jumped the AI gun are finding out the hard way.
Remember: companies still need reliable, trustworthy people to record stuff, organize the input files, organize the output files, schedule autism shit and disseminate information.

There's no world in which an omnipotent CEO can run an entire operation solo just using AI (depending on the size and scale of the company).
 
Tonight, King Sly and Rich went at it on a live stream. Both Sly and Rich streamed, and I watched Rich’s stream. I unsubscribed from Sly for a while. I’ll try to catch you all up—I’ve been listening to a lot of this, so if I get anything wrong, please correct me. But here’s my take on the situation: Linx was tied to doxxing Italian Stallion on another Discord outside of the Lolcow Live server. Lolcow Live has a zero-tolerance policy—no ops. Linx then ran to Sly’s stream to tell her side of the story. Now, I don’t know much about the Linx server, so I can’t say much there. Rich was in that server and ended up getting banned from the Lolcow Discord. Keemstar wants nothing to do with ops. Grace was originally on Lolcow Queens when it started but got booted, and so was Linx. Both were former hosts for Lolcow Queens. Sly brought them both on his show to tear down Rich. Now, I’m no fan of Rich—I’m here for entertainment. But on top of all this, Grace has a PDF father who sexually assaulted her and kicked her. He went to jail for a short time. Rich, trying to make content, jokingly said Grace should show up to his house in a chicken suit if a goal was hit. Keem, as a host and producer, has to fire people he doesn’t see fit. And Sly, being the clout goblin that he is, got both Linx and Grace on his show.
King Sly thinks he can take on Lolcow Live and the entire Lolcow universe, but he needs to pick his battles wisely. Lolcow Live and Queens are making bank, while Sly is playing with real fire—and it’s only a matter of time before he gets burned.​
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Tonight, King Sly and Rich went at it on a live stream. Both Sly and Rich streamed, and I watched Rich’s stream. I unsubscribed from Sly for a while. I’ll try to catch you all up—I’ve been listening to a lot of this, so if I get anything wrong, please correct me. But here’s my take on the situation: Linx was tied to doxxing Italian Stallion on another Discord outside of the Lolcow Live server. Lolcow Live has a zero-tolerance policy—no ops. Linx then ran to Sly’s stream to tell her side of the story. Now, I don’t know much about the Linx server, so I can’t say much there. Rich was in that server and ended up getting banned from the Lolcow Discord. Keemstar wants nothing to do with ops. Grace was originally on Lolcow Queens when it started but got booted, and so was Linx. Both were former hosts for Lolcow Queens. Sly brought them both on his show to tear down Rich. Now, I’m no fan of Rich—I’m here for entertainment. But on top of all this, Grace has a PDF father who sexually assaulted her and kicked her. He went to jail for a short time. Rich, trying to make content, jokingly said Grace should show up to his house in a chicken suit if a goal was hit. Keem, as a host and producer, has to fire people he doesn’t see fit. And Sly, being the clout goblin that he is, got both Linx and Grace on his show.
King Sly thinks he can take on Lolcow Live and the entire Lolcow universe, but he needs to pick his battles wisely. Lolcow Live and Queens are making bank, while Sly is playing with real fire—and it’s only a matter of time before he gets burned.​
Translated it for you guys: A retarded nigger did retarded nigger things.
 
Oh nice
I go through this thread occasionally some of these detractors and alogs are as bad as Phil if not worse. And I really don't like Phil. Grifting off a Grifter is fucking pathetic.
I usually don't agree with the sentiment of "as bad if not worse", but in some cases I would understand it.

Simply because:
  • Phil is a severely mentally ill man
  • Phil gets harassed every day (deserving or not)
  • Phil can't help being Phil and doing Phil things
  • The detractors make content about how much of a Phil Phil is, therefore they must be aware of their own behavior when they act like Phil
  • They must follow their own advice
However, the definition of grifting includes being disingenuous, and most of the detractors I've watched seem very sincere in their dislike of Phil. And it's 2025 - if you can make money on the internet, you most probably should.

There are detractor grifters though, mainly Doody. There's nothing you can tell me that would convince me Doody isn't doing this for money. The entire method and mechanism of his channel is built around maximizing the amount of profit.

And when he was demonetized for a bit - he simply stopped posting


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The disingenuous element to detractors is the often unspoken sentiment, sometimes explicitly declared, that they want Phil to change and grow out of his current predicament, or for his dedicated cluster of paypigs to stop donating to him. They'll front that they desire some evolving permutation of the situation wherein someone disrupts the perpetual groove of Phil doing his prestreams, playing some video games, begging, and deceiving his audience in order to enrich himself.

Instead, all these things about Phil that they denounce and decry and denigrate must continue or else they'll be forced to transition into other content, and they fail more often than they succeed when it comes to parlaying their success as a detractor into covering other content. It's much like the unending war described in 1984 which no fighting party wants to actually win because it benefits them to be engaged in a perpetual crusade.
 
The disingenuous element to detractors is the often unspoken sentiment, sometimes explicitly declared, that they want Phil to change and grow out of his current predicament, or for his dedicated cluster of paypigs to stop donating to him. They'll front that they desire some evolving permutation of the situation wherein someone disrupts the perpetual groove of Phil doing his prestreams, playing some video games, begging, and deceiving his audience in order to enrich himself.
Who does this exactly? Especially nowadays? They're calling him a retard and actively want him to get worse. Because then he's funnier and a better lolcow.

Only people like Craig with a more mainstream public presence say they want Phil to get better.

Or others who just take advantage of him, like Kino Casino.

Pretty much everyone else wants him to get more demented and more unhinged.
 
Who does this exactly? Especially nowadays? They're calling him a retard and actively want him to get worse. Because then he's funnier and a better lolcow.

Only people like Craig with a more mainstream public presence say they want Phil to get better.

Or others who just take advantage of him, like Kino Casino.

Pretty much everyone else wants him to get more demented and more unhinged.
I still want a redemption arc just for the entertainment value it would provide. But at this point I know it's never going to happen.

I don't know about people "actively" wanting him to get worse. If you just observe him and see that things are happening that are going to inevitably make his shit end up worse, it doesn't really mean you automatically actively want it to happen.
 
I don't know about people "actively" wanting him to get worse. If you just observe him and see that things are happening that are going to inevitably make his shit end up worse, it doesn't really mean you automatically actively want it to happen.
I don't know how you don't see that considering the volume of posts you've made here and the longevity of your presence in this space.

It's obvious to me that every time something bad happens to him, it is widely celebrated. Phil is not a good person, so clearly, the overwhelming majority of the people who keep up with him want him to fail and to have bad things happening to him.

And also, when something good happens to him, the majority of people who keep up with him are not pleased by it.

That is, matter of fact, when the most dentractors show up and screech in unison.

This is not a secret or a hot take - the overwhelming majority of people who even semi-regularly watch a doody video would prefer if Phil's life got worse and more miserable.
 
I don't know how you don't see that considering the volume of posts you've made here and the longevity of your presence in this space.
Oh I'm definitely not blind to that... Everyone here including Derish make for extremely strange and contradictory bedfellows.

I will say though that a lot of the actual drama doesn't directly involve DSP that much, it is his aylawgs and orbiters and detractors and fans that are usually the most bizarre. Like the whole lesbian thing. If DSP hadn't said a word about it, it still would've been hilarious but he injected himself into it.

The main exception to that recently has been him actually going on sidescrollers, Kino Casino and that UFO guys channel. If he hadn't of done that his prestreams themselves are hardly interesting.

And also, when something good happens to him, the majority of people who keep up with him are not pleased by it.
I don't know if I fully agree with this. I have seen many people say they don't care if he gets lots of money and it's funnier because at this point it's certain he'll never change his ways and he will waste all the money.

And in DSP's world his definition of "good thing" literally only includes money.


And I forgot to quote your final part about Doody, that much is definitely true, I've seen the comment section on his videos and they definitely want misfortune for him.
 
It's obvious to me that every time something bad happens to him, it is widely celebrated

when something good happens to him, the majority of people who keep up with him are not pleased by it.
Don't understand why watchers of Phil and others like him want them to get worse or the bipolar opposite when they start concern larping.

Phil is Phil and his life already sucks because he doesn't make it better for himself. That's why he's watched, right? What needs to happen for it to get interesting? The Casino friendship was interesting. And they hated it. He got milked and they hated it. Give Detractors two cakes and watch them complain.

Also: "I have seen many people say they don't care if he gets lots of money." That is a lie. They shit themselves if he gets twenty dollars. They catalogue his wheelchairs in a ledger and it is always the main gripe we hear. He made a little bit off that Casino stuff and it was a hive mind unified screech.
 
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