Orbiter DarkSydePhil A-Logs General - Infighting and Cringe Galore (Sons of Kojima, et al)

[Unsungherobot]

I like HMG as I've helped him in the past with his SoSolidPK event that led to Ross and BSV and Shadow raptor faking his account and making crazy threats and doing his gf and job.

It frustrated me that after the shit I did for him, he went after me while I was trying to be friends still. Insults and all. Like a prick

like i said. you are blacklisted. As of now you are a problem. Fred has had his tools turn their backs on you maybe not all since maybe Moogle and RADRAD keep in touch but i would also watch what i say around them too since they are a part of Freds little circle so they could be the fly on the wall to see if you will tell them some things for ammo. HMG is cool with you UNTIL fred gives the exile law and then they do the 180 and they treat you like a DSP white knight. Thats why Moogle is afraid of getting on his bad side. He dosent want to end up like you. Having everyone of his "friends" hate him . He would rather play around and look away when he sees his old friends getting attacked.

So essentially he is like Vidar and Fred is like Phil.
Uncanny how these groups mirror one another.

Pretty much. Like Che said. The viewership has gotten into his head and its making him paranoid to the point where he cant even speak about things freely on social media. Its a sad sad tale of a king locked inside a castle.

 

[PL 879]

Pretty much. Like Che said. The viewership has gotten into his head and its making him paranoid to the point where he cant even speak about things freely on social media. Its a sad sad tale of a king locked inside a castle.

That and direct public confrontation seems to be an impossibility for Fred...at least without a giggling peanut gallery behind him as backup.
On a private discord though, as we've empirically seen and heard, the real narcissist comes out.

 

[JoRo]

So wow this thread got busy, glad my leaked chat with Fred helped ahah

Too follow suit, I will not show the entire conversation but just Read how SOK member HMG responds to me when I tagged Fred in a tweet in a friendly manner(before I realized they were attacking me & called them friends).

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It's sad that they act like they are ignoring all this but are constantly dming you privately and shit talking you, they all come off as passive aggressive and ganging up on you privately is not going to make Fred or the rest of the sok look any better or make the drama go away.

To me it's hilarious how serious they take this whole thing and they seem to have gotten worse ever since the leaks happened.

 

[Unsungherobot]

That and direct public confrontation seems to be an impossibility for Fred...at least without a giggling peanut gallery behind him as backup.
On a private discord though, as we've empirically seen and heard, the real narcissist comes out.

Fred cant have his image taking a hit for speaking out on Social media. Thats what HMG and the other SoK squad is for. He just sits back and gives orders. If they are behind closed doors on a discord server with all his loyal subjects then of course thats when the real him comes out. He is probably in the forums with some of the other SoK cats in sock accounts trying to disprove people and help their own image.

 

[Bryan Dunn]

Pretty much. Like Che said. The viewership has gotten into his head and its making him paranoid to the point where he cant even speak about things freely on social media. Its a sad sad tale of a king locked inside a castle.

The paranoid part I can somewhat confirm. During my last days on the GSoK discord and sok group, alot of ppl were having issues with Fred because of what Mistermetokur told him about "outside groups watching you guys for awhile now and you need to calm down". Fred started to become agiatated and venting his frustrations alot. Acouple audio recordings exist but will never see the light of day. When Me and TombaHat approached him his response was to state that WE were the problems and that everyone else wanted us removed yet, from others we heard that he had threatened Fizz, HMG, And pascal with group removal for disobeying him and bringing heat to TXT. He was very on edge. Me and TombaHat thought we should try to reason with him to calm down and "it's just the internet" and take Jims advice but he said he still didn't agree and that "when is jim ever wrong!? Who are these groups he's talking about? I want to know!".

 

[PL 879]

Fred cant have his image taking a hit for speaking out on Social media. Thats what HMG and the other SoK squad is for. He just sits back and gives orders. If they are behind closed doors on a discord server with all his loyal subjects then of course thats when the real him comes out. He is probably in the forums with some of the other SoK cats in sock accounts trying to disprove people and help their own image.

I would dare to say that precious image has taken a huge hit, and saying nothing is only making things worse.
I'm all in favor of having fun making fun of Phil - obviously, since I post regularly in the guy's 1500 page thread here - but the SoK have shown their true colors with the TXT and now Bryan excommunications.
You would maintain the group, particularly Fred, was always this way I'm sure.

 

[Unsungherobot]

The paranoid part I can somewhat confirm. During my last days on the GSoK discord and sok group, alot of ppl were having issues with Fred because of what Mistermetokur told him about "outside groups watching you guys for awhile now and you need to calm down". Fred started to become agiatated and venting his frustrations alot. Acouple audio recordings exist but will never see the light of day. When Me and TombaHat approached him his response was to state that WE were the problems and that everyone else wanted us removed yet, from others we heard that he had threatened Fizz, HMG, And pascal with group removal for disobeying him and bringing hest to TXT. He was very on edge. Me and TombaHat thought we should try to reason with him to calm down and "it's just the internet" and take Jims advice but he said he still didn't agree and that "when is jim ever wrong!? Who are these groups he's talking about? I want to know!".

I can see that, Fred is Scareface. Just some coked up paranoid dude with a gun that can remove people from the group and shun them. He cant take criticism. After the whole Futa thing and the ED page thing Mr read during the live podcast i know Fred wasen't going to listen to someone who made a fool out of him on a live podcast. This is why people from the SoK leave and join other groups eventually you get tired of the BS and you want to branch out. Fred is going to eventually kill the SoK from the inside. Once his tools wake up and realize they could be doing other things than wasting years of their lives watching phil do dumb stuff and doing the bidding of someone who wont hesitate to take them out of the group.

 

[JoRo]

The paranoid part I can somewhat confirm. During my last days on the GSoK discord and sok group, alot of ppl were having issues with Fred because of what Mistermetokur told him about "outside groups watching you guys for awhile now and you need to calm down". Fred started to become agiatated and venting his frustrations alot. Acouple audio recordings exist but will never see the light of day. When Me and TombaHat approached him his response was to state that WE were the problems and that everyone else wanted us removed yet, from others we heard that he had threatened Fizz, HMG, And pascal with group removal for disobeying him and bringing heat to TXT. He was very on edge. Me and TombaHat thought we should try to reason with him to calm down and "it's just the internet" and take Jims advice but he said he still didn't agree and that "when is jim ever wrong!? Who are these groups he's talking about? I want to know!".

Fred is so full of it, he was the number one cause of everything getting heated, he was there watching every post txt made and immediately messaged me the minute I brought up the sok. He threw both pascal and fizz under the bus immediately saying the rest had nothing to do with it yet he started calling txt a crybaby which proved he wasn't neutral towards the txt drama and messaged me and started talking shit instead of stopping pascal or fizz or talking to txt. If you look through this whole thread it's clear that Fred is the number one problem in the sok and he will point fingers at everyone else just like dsp.

 

[Bryan Dunn]

Fred is so full of it, he was the number one cause of everything getting heated, he was there watching every post txt made and immediately messaged me the minute I brought up the sok. He threw both pascal and fizz under the bus immediately saying the rest had nothing to do with it yet he started calling txt a crybaby which proved he wasn't neutral towards the txt drama and messaged me and started talking shit instead of stopping pascal or fizz or talking to txt. If you look through this whole thread it's clear that Fred is the number one problem in the sok and he will point fingers at everyone else just like dsp.

I never tagged SoK into me and TXT events ever. I want to clarify that because SoK members keep saying to me that I "threw fred under the bus" with the TXT drama.

Go take that up with HMG and the rest.

 

[ZachAutist]

Fred also joined Boons group as well to also keep tabs on him,

Yeah, I figured he was doing that pretty quickly but we never said anything about the SoK (although during the TXT drama I @'d Fred and spoke my mind and of course he still remained radio silent). After time passed for a few months, I ended up just asking one of my mods to kick him out of my server mainly because he never came in voice or said anything in text ever so there was no reason for him to be there. And he gladly agreed to do so. Moogle is still in there and I asked him about this, but he denied it naturally and said he's been good friends with Fred.

 

[Bryan Dunn]

And for people who might be skeptical of the whole "fred egged me on" thing. Awhile ago, during my TXT event, I wrote a twitlonger about my mindset and wanting to leave the drama at the door. In that twitlonger I mentioned this Important statement of "friends who egged me or pushed me" regarding me continuing drama with TXT & BSV and why it was UNHEALTHY for myself or anyone to be that way.

Soon after, Fred decided to ask if it was him I was referring to as the one who "egged me on".

I tried to downplay it because I didn't want to cause issues with someone I still thought of as a good friend (before he showed me how he treats friends like Pascal)

Now, why would anyone assume that unless they mightve felt they did egg someone on to continue fueds and unhealthy behaviors? Yes, as admitted I took things too far as I pulled the trigger on things but People I called friends wanted me too and kept pushing for results.

 

[Unsungherobot]

And for people who might be skeptical of the whole "fred egged me on" thing. Awhile ago, during my TXT event, I wrote a twitlonger about my mindset and wanting to leave the drama at the door. In that twitlonger I mentioned this Important statement of "friends who egged me or pushed me" regarding me continuing drama with TXT & BSV and why it was UNHEALTHY for myself or anyone to be that way.
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Soon after, Fred decided to ask if it was him I was referring to as the one who "egged me on".
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I tried to downplay it because I didn't want to cause issues with someone I still thought of as a good friend (before he showed me how he treats friends like Pascal)

Now, why would anyone assume that unless they mightve felt they did egg someone on to continue fueds and unhealthy behaviors? Yes, as admitted I took things too far as I pulled the trigger on things but People I called friends wanted me too and kept pushing for results.

guessing this was the breaking point. This is wear Fred decided it was best to part ways with you and wash his hands. Any attempts for you to say it was him egging you on would result in. "I dont know what he is talking about, he must be upset at me because i took him out of the group"

Yeah, I figured he was doing that pretty quickly but we never said anything about the SoK (although during the TXT drama I @'d Fred and spoke my mind and of course he still remained radio silent). After time passed for a few months, I ended up just asking one of my mods to kick him out of my server mainly because he never came in voice or said anything in text ever so there was no reason for him to be there. And he gladly agreed to do so. Moogle is still in there and I asked him about this, but he denied it naturally and said he's been good friends with Fred.

No surprise like i stated earlier moogle is a good guy but he is afraid of losing his friends. He is probably the fly in the wall for now but who knows. I feel bad for him. Eventually it will be his turn to get the boot.

 

[Bryan Dunn]

guessing this was the breaking point. This is wear Fred decided it was best to part ways with you and wash his hands. Any attempts for you to say it was him egging you on would result in. "I dont know what he is talking about, he must be upset at me because i took him out of the group"

I'm calling it now, SoK are going to target me all week for telling the truth. I'm ready for whatever comes and idc what they say. I have always provided evidence for my claims as best as I can and anyone can go look at my post history and see that.

RIP my internet week lol

No surprise like i stated earlier moogle is a good guy but he is afraid of losing his friends. He is probably the fly in the wall for now but who knows. I feel bad for him. Eventually it will be his turn to get the boot.

I can vouch for moogle, he isn't like that at all. Honestly the guy just plays FF games and likes to talk about his day. He's your typical happy chill maple syrup Canadian friend. I can't speak on him being afraid of Fred but I can say he isn't his lapdog.

 

[PL 879]

guessing this was the breaking point. This is wear Fred decided it was best to part ways with you and wash his hands. Any attempts for you to say it was him egging you on would result in. "I dont know what he is talking about, he must be upset at me because i took him out of the group"

This was the breaking point.

 

[Unsungherobot]

I'm calling it now, SoK are going to target me all week for telling the truth. I'm ready for whatever comes and idc what they say. I have always provided evidence for my claims as best as I can and anyone can go look at my post history and see that.

RIP my internet week lol

Thats how it works. You will be met with some of the SoK memebrs in the DMs. Tell you what, if they do make sure to screen cap what they say. Hey this only builds more evidence of the mob mentality that the SoK has. You dont need to take their shit so might as well fight back with pride even if they call you a coward.

This was the breaking point.

Once you show signs of defiance you are pretty much dead to them.

 

[Bryan Dunn]

Once you show signs of defiance you are pretty much dead to them.

well< HMG showed me that. Insults and attacking my character for saying Fred egged me on was wild. I even used the words "HMG its me man, We are friends, calm down its me im not BSV or something dude remember?" to which he called me "worse then BSV, and you are a crazy bullshit liar who deserve the shit im going to get" or something along those lines, dont quote me there.

Its why HMG has responded so hostile to me openly on twitter.

 

[PL 879]

Once you show signs of defiance you are pretty much dead to them.

And the penalty for that is...what? One is able to go on, laughing at Phil and other lolcows without a chicken shit, power crazed overlord squawking at every thing you say or tweet. It's much more fun over here as an independent.
The same as when TXT left the community, if people one thinks are friends are so quick to cast a person away, it needs to be questioned whether they were really friends to begin with.

 

[Unsungherobot]

well< HMG showed me that. Insults and attacking my character for saying Fred egged me on was wild. I even used the words "HMG its me man, We are friends, calm down its me im not BSV or something dude remember?" to which he called me "worse then BSV, and you are a crazy bullshit liar who deserve the shit im going to get" or something along those lines, dont quote me there.

Its why HMG has responded so hostile to me openly on twitter.

Its sad to say your friendship with HMG is over UNLESS Fred betrays him too. As of now you are Exiled from the group so you are an enemy fred will add to his paranoid list. It really sucks but its over man. HMG is Fred's internet muscle. Youll hear from him again probably. Just not in a good way.

 

[ZachAutist]

Once you show signs of defiance you are pretty much dead to them.

True. Such as in my case where they ganged up on me in a Skype call on March 9th, 2015 and tried to intimidate me but failed and got recorded and laughed at by Kiwifarms and my friends. I never really fell for their shit to begin with which is why I believe I was discarded as quickly as I was because they could tell I couldn't be used as their tool. However, I was nice to them and never did anything to warrant being kicked from the subgroup which speaks wonders, really.

 

[Unsungherobot]

And the penalty for that is...what? One is able to go on, laughing at Phil and other lolcows without a chicken shit, power crazed overlord squawking at every thing you say or tweet. It's much more fun over here as an independent.
The same as when TXT left the community, if people one thinks are friends are so quick to cast a person away, it needs to be questioned whether they were really friends to begin with.

Probably not. HMG would of asked him why he did what he did or say what he said. Listening to his side but instead he went full on attack mode. This is a dead give away. A normal person with a problem talks it out but he did not he went straight to. YOUR THE CRAZY ONE!