DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell: The Side Scrollers Podcast Week of March 13th

Even with his gacha spending he's not spending $9k in a month on "business" (I think), assuming he wanted to sneak those in.
mobile games (especially gacha games) are money sinker. Even in unpopular or niche game with very small user base in each server (around 50-60 people) I have seen people spend 3k monthly. In certain cultivation idle game they only give you vip channel for support only when your spending reach 30k. Worst part is these game lure you to always play them daily with special event,time limit event etc so even when you are spending money, you have to put in the time and energy daily just to keep your lead from other whales. I think it is very reasonable to think he spend those money and put them as business expense.
 
I think it is very reasonable to think he spend those money and put them as business expense.
Fair enough.

I found it shocking that you don't have to justify or itemize those business expenses at all. The bankruptcy goes into a lot of detail with the ordinary/personal expenses, but nothing about business expenses and net income. Just put in any number.

Seems like, as long as you have a business, you can just get a free bankruptcy. Just claim all the surplus after your income minus expenses as business expenses and, wham, insolvent.

Edit: To be clear, he likely still would've gotten his bankruptcy if he had been forced to write "$9k - in-game purchases". But at least he would've been exposed.
 
I understand Shinko's reasoning.

I am going stand by my principals and disagree about Panda being contacted.
While part of me wants to be like okay I am convinced, no I do have to make this statement.
No Shinko. There are other alternatives to explore in exposing Phil as a predator.
Still it's cool man, we can agree to disagree.
POP spoke about this in his streams that Phil is a predator on his streams.
If Keem wants to reach out to Panda sure, it's always his choice, but you have to understand that that people have strong feelings about this.
 
He went into $500000 of credit card and personal loan debt while making way more each month. So no matter how insane it sounds he most like does spend all his money each month.
Uhhh well you have to spend money to make money retarrr so clearly Phil spending all his money every month will make him the richest man in history.
 
big ups to the sorry fucks who are gonna sit through the whole 5 hours and compile it into a version that doesnt make me want to punch my own eyes out

Thing is, this is one of those streams, like Phil's Donkey Kong 64 playthrough, where there is nothing to cut out to shorten it! It's a non-stop trainwrect that has to be watched.
 
Seems like, as long as you have a business, you can just get a free bankruptcy. Just claim all the surplus after your income minus expenses as business expenses and, wham, insolvent.
I am just a bum. dont know shit about business and bankruptcy. But i think may be he register as streamer/multimedia company so payment to game company count as legit? It would be nice to hear some law guy explain.
 
I am just a bum. dont know shit about business and bankruptcy. But i think may be he register as streamer/multimedia company so payment to game company count as legit? It would be nice to hear some law guy explain.
No, there's nothing (as far as i know or have seen) about the nature of the business expenses anywhere in the bankruptcy documents. There's only the list of numbers in business expenses over the last 6 months. You can be literally any business and claim any amount.
 
I know they said they don't want this to be the DSP show, but I really enjoyed the level headed Craig as the host and Adam as the griller. They were completely fair to Phil the entire time and wanted to get to the bottom of it all.
One of the funniest parts for me, was when Craig started telling DSP how it was messed up that people doxed him/revealed his personal info. Than almost immediately after Craig played the clip of DSP ranting about BeAwesomeOne, and DSP saying he had his name, address, IP. That was great, so well-timed. They did a good job showing Phil's hypocrisy.
 
He went into $500000 of credit card and personal loan debt while making way more each month. So no matter how insane it sounds he most like does spend all his money each month.
his mortgage was folded into that as well i believe it just didn't get discharged. still piggy got like 150k in other debts canceled so he should have gotten a stack of 1099-Cs from his creditors. which means more taxes he had to put on payment plans.
 
his mortgage was folded into that as well i believe it just didn't get discharged. still piggy got like 150k in other debts canceled so he should have gotten a stack of 1099-Cs from his creditors. which means more taxes he had to put on payment plans.
Correct me if I am wrong but mortgages, car loans and especially back taxes can't be discharged with a bankruptcy. I heard even student loans can't be discharged by bankruptcy but that was some time ago so feel free to correct me on that
 
I am just a bum. dont know shit about business and bankruptcy. But i think may be he register as streamer/multimedia company so payment to game company count as legit? It would be nice to hear some law guy explain.
You can practically claim everything as a business expense as long as you can prove that it is related to the business. Dave is playing video games for a living. Do you really think that judge or attorney will check if the particular expense was a cost of a new game, DLC, microtransaction? WWE Champions is a game, Dave's job is to play games so this is a business expense. I don't know how it works in US, but where I live when you have your business at home you need to declare how many square meters of it is related to business. If you declare that your whole house is your office then you pay more tax than in the case where you declare that only one room is your office and this determines how many cost you can write off as a business expense (example: when you declare that only one room is the office you can't write off cost of electricity, water, gas as business expense...at least not all of it, maybe just a percentage)

And by the way welcome! I've just fallen into the vortex but I've been lurking here for 2 years already.
 
Fair enough.

I found it shocking that you don't have to justify or itemize those business expenses at all. The bankruptcy goes into a lot of detail with the ordinary/personal expenses, but nothing about business expenses and net income. Just put in any number.

Seems like, as long as you have a business, you can just get a free bankruptcy. Just claim all the surplus after your income minus expenses as business expenses and, wham, insolvent.

Edit: To be clear, he likely still would've gotten his bankruptcy if he had been forced to write "$9k - in-game purchases". But at least he would've been exposed.
He used those outrageous monthly expense numbers because he didn't qualify for bankruptcy in the first place without lowering his take-home income by exactly those amounts in those specific months. This was analyzed thoroughly in the bankruptcy thread when it happened. He could've easily paid all those discharged debts if he would've just cut back on his personal spending, that's what the tips tracker and the much later bank leaks proved.
 
Two things to consider from today's prestream.

1. Phil got whaled out overnight. He had a complete meltdown on stream last night, was shit on by Keem for being a scammer, and effectively admitted that the interview was a complete disaster and he didn't want to show proof to clear himself. In this conversation, Phil said he is not in financial dire straits, and could not justify his apparent spending and financial mismanagement. Lisa Lou then tipped him $50 and Phil again admitted he used to not admit he got tips overnight, but is now going to (probably because whoever operates the LisaLou sock told him he wanted him to).

Phil likes to stress that he and his fans are 'logical adults'. There is no logic behind this tip. If you believe Phil, he is not in financial distress. If you like Phil's content, you basically haven't had the content you like in 2 days while Phil was busy having meltdowns and ragequitting. And if you have a brain, you'd realize giving Phil money is a scam. Why would you give him money? Because Phil failed and you are worried about his feelings today. Phil's whales don't operate on an iota of logic - they're emotionally conditioned. Just something to remember the next time Phil throws out the "L" word.

2. Phil just said he would not play Elden Ring after Wo Long, now retconing his earlier statements to have been an either/or. Because he baited people into whaling for Wo Long, he now does not need to switch to Elden Ring. You can see Phil has a scam/business plan going here because he said he might do Elden Ring as a slower summer playthrough. So he's trying to stagger Souls-like games in order to spread out the whaling.

Correct me if I am wrong but mortgages, car loans and especially back taxes can't be discharged with a bankruptcy. I heard even student loans can't be discharged by bankruptcy but that was some time ago so feel free to correct me on that
Correct, Phil still has his car payments, mortgage and back taxes to contend with.

You can practically claim everything as a business expense as long as you can prove that it is related to the business. Dave is playing video games for a living. Do you really think that judge or attorney will check if the particular expense was a cost of a new game, DLC, microtransaction? WWE Champions is a game, Dave's job is to play games so this is a business expense.
This is also true, though the games that he writes off needs to be directly related to his business (ie. streamed). This was a question he was asked even of his Switch, which he had to remove as a business expense when it was pointed out that Kat used it for personal reasons. He said explicitly in the call (which he conveniently doesn't remember now) that his business expenses included 'microtransactions', but he doesn't even buy battlepasses for CoD when he plays it regularly. His actual content contains no microtransactions, and therefore they cannot be declared a business expense.

Not that Phil 'declared' anything, apparently his business expenses were entirely declared by his tax guy who knows next to nothing about the operations of his business and had to get that information from... well never mind who gave him the information, the tax guy just knew it was $5k, obviously.
 
Correct me if I am wrong but mortgages, car loans and especially back taxes can't be discharged with a bankruptcy. I heard even student loans can't be discharged by bankruptcy but that was some time ago so feel free to correct me on that
right thats why i said the mortgage wasnt discharged, only the loans and credit cards. the amount discharged is taxable because its considered income.
 
It is amazing how much Doody got wrong. The amount of times Timbo declared bankruptcy. 1MM secretly being Derichs parents. Doody used to go around in chats saying that DSP was on dialysis and he had proof. Egging on Keem to talk to Pandalee who wants to be completely removed from DSP and has moved on with her life.

How he has maintained any relevancy is fucking confounding to me.
 
Also Doody got a bunch of lore wrong. Like a bunch. Doody will 100 percent fuck this shit up worse than Doody and the other voices did last night.

Towards the end of the podcast the autism was so strong from all the "detractors" it scared Craig off.
Caught that too exactly what I feared would happen we had jo-jo the idiot circus boy and his pretty new pet and what does he do? fucking kills it but not before acting like it's the doody show featuring two guests that weren't vetted beforehand.
And Craig if you're reading this it's time to get up from the table and cash your chips you did gods work but remember god took a rest on the seventh day so should you.
 
How he has maintained any relevancy is fucking confounding to me.
He has a regular upload schedule and streams often. That's it. There are literally a dozen people doing exactly what he does better yet somehow he still manages to have an audience.
 
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Fair enough.

I found it shocking that you don't have to justify or itemize those business expenses at all. The bankruptcy goes into a lot of detail with the ordinary/personal expenses, but nothing about business expenses and net income. Just put in any number.

Seems like, as long as you have a business, you can just get a free bankruptcy. Just claim all the surplus after your income minus expenses as business expenses and, wham, insolvent.

Edit: To be clear, he likely still would've gotten his bankruptcy if he had been forced to write "$9k - in-game purchases". But at least he would've been exposed.
Do we know they weren't itemized? The monthly expense totals for each month were there, but maybe they were laid out in detail somewhere else, like a tax form schedule?
 
And Craig if you're reading this it's time to get up from the table and cash your chips you did gods work but remember god took a rest on the seventh day so should you.
If Craig didn't get scared off after last night's fuckup, I could see him still talking about DSP but just him and Adam. I think he stared into the abyss and got shook.
 
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