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So the 16k is as good as collected. I was hopping for a long and arduous begging season. Emerald is taking all the fun out of the shit show, Phil is at his best when backed into a corner. The only thing we can hope for is Phil's habit of spending every thing on some stupid stuff and not paying his taxes.
But I have to say, I am interested in seeing what kind of mental gymnastics he will pull to justify his begging after this rain fall.
 
So the 16k is as good as collected. I was hopping for a long and arduous begging season. Emerald is taking all the fun out of the shit show, Phil is at his best when backed into a corner. The only thing we can hope for is Phil's habit of spending every thing on some stupid stuff and not paying his taxes.
But I have to say, I am interested in seeing what kind of mental gymnastics he will pull to justify his begging after this rain fall.
Full on expect him to blow it away on another staycation with Khet and prestige doodads myself.
 
if the sub money some how ends up being fraud and is taken away its going to be a shit show.

Today's leaderboard after hours of streaming: top cheer: 200 - Top tip $3.

as with tut people are not bothering to throw much money at dsp it seems unless there were tons of small dontions. kind of hard even for an autist to give phil a lot of money after watching him get $12000.

the only way this upcoming year/season doesnt suck as a total snoozefest is if these subs are taken away by fraud. if not, phil is going to be able to refinance for sure and it will keep him a float at gout palace for YEARS before he is fucked again.

i am not too optimistic on him blowing all this money either, i know he never learns but i think after being so close to ruin he wised up with spending a little bit.
 
if the sub money some how ends up being fraud and is taken away its going to be a shit show.

Today's leaderboard after hours of streaming: top cheer: 200 - Top tip $3.

as with tut people are not bothering to throw much money at dsp it seems unless there were tons of small dontions. kind of hard even for an autist to give phil a lot of money after watching him get $12000.

the only way this upcoming year/season doesnt suck as a total snoozefest is if these subs are taken away by fraud. if not, phil is going to be able to refinance for sure and it will keep him a float at gout palace for YEARS before he is fucked again.

i am not too optimistic on him blowing all this money either, i know he never learns but i think after being so close to ruin he wised up with spending a little bit.

I just don't see him getting any refinance on his home for two reasons:

1.)He stated he needed to show consistent income and show his "business is growing". This doesn't show that, I'm sure he has to show earnings month to month and that will show a huge jumps all over the place which is the opposite of consistent.
2.)The bank is gonna see his accumulated debt ON TOP OF his income showing he consistently doesn't pay his balances down... like, ever. What bank wants to take that risk? Plus any online search would show his "business" has been in steady decline for years.
 
So the 16k is as good as collected. I was hopping for a long and arduous begging season. Emerald is taking all the fun out of the shit show, Phil is at his best when backed into a corner. The only thing we can hope for is Phil's habit of spending every thing on some stupid stuff and not paying his taxes.
But I have to say, I am interested in seeing what kind of mental gymnastics he will pull to justify his begging after this rain fall.

The best we can hope for now is him either blowing the 16k and being caught doing so. With him proudly stating he skipped some tax payments this is quite possible. Or him somehow being in cahoots with E7. The chance of this being a troll who's gonna try and chargeback or whatever are probably close to none.

You're right though, if E7 is a troll he's definitely done a number on us here. But he's also taken all the fun of a desperate Dave and ruined it for everyone. Surely if you're gonna piss your money away on a cunt you at least make him gurgle it 1st. This was just sad.
 
The best we can hope for now is him either blowing the 16k and being caught doing so. With him proudly stating he skipped some tax payments this is quite possible. Or him somehow being in cahoots with E7. The chance of this being a troll who's gonna try and chargeback or whatever are probably close to none.

You're right though, if E7 is a troll he's definitely done a number on us here. But he's also taken all the fun of a desperate Dave and ruined it for everyone. Surely if you're gonna piss your money away on a cunt you at least make him gurgle it 1st. This was just sad.

Healthier, alternative interpretation: E7 is unquestionably an exceptional individual and we can safely mock them for throwing five figures at a man who pays to jerk off to boring, vanilla porn.
 
I just don't see him getting any refinance on his home for two reasons:

1.)He stated he needed to show consistent income and show his "business is growing". This doesn't show that, I'm sure he has to show earnings month to month and that will show a huge jumps all over the place which is the opposite of consistent.
2.)The bank is gonna see his accumulated debt ON TOP OF his income showing he consistently doesn't pay his balances down... like, ever. What bank wants to take that risk? Plus any online search would show his "business" has been in steady decline for years.

Unfortunately the type of refinance DSP wants to do is called a "Cash Out Refinance" and its extremely common and easy to do. One of the reasons people use it is to pay off high APR debt like credit cards.

All they want is tax returns for past 2 years (which will now show he makes $100k each of the past 2 returns after he does the 2018 return) which shows they have income. he has plenty of equity in his house too.

only nice thing for us is interest rates are way higher now than when he got his loan in 2014 so his mortgage rate is likely to increase.
 
Unfortunately the type of refinance DSP wants to do is called a "Cash Out Refinance" and its extremely common and easy to do. One of the reasons people use it is to pay off high APR debt like credit cards.

All they want is tax returns for past 2 years (which will now show he makes $100k each of the past 2 returns after he does the 2018 return) which shows they have income. he has plenty of equity in his house too.

only nice thing for us is interest rates are way higher now than when he got his loan in 2014 so his mortgage rate is likely to increase.

What makes you think he has "plenty of equity" exactly?
 
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I think that this money will come back to hunt him in the long run. Even the most autistic sperg in his fan base will think twice about giving him money now. Nobody will believe his crying poor after he refinances the house. He will get even more lazy, start taking more time off and buy stupid shit left and right with his "disposable" income. This behavior will drive more "fans" away and by the end of 2019 he will be in a worse position then now.
 
So the 16k is as good as collected. I was hopping for a long and arduous begging season. Emerald is taking all the fun out of the shit show, Phil is at his best when backed into a corner. The only thing we can hope for is Phil's habit of spending every thing on some stupid stuff and not paying his taxes.
But I have to say, I am interested in seeing what kind of mental gymnastics he will pull to justify his begging after this rain fall.

I agree Phil usually puts out the best content when he's backed into a corner. But, I think that's still coming up soon, just in a different way. Phil's whole begging scam largely relies on making himself look like the underdog and claiming detractors and stuff are keeping him from making the money he deserves. In reality, Phil is awful with money and is too greedy to manage his savings.

Phil being successful backs him into a much larger corner because, like you said, he's going to go right back to begging after this because he'll burn through the money and need/feel entitled to more. I think seeing him try and justify that begging and seeing what lies he spins to his audience is going to be pretty entertaining.

There was speculation earlier that Phil is lying about the 16k and purposefully set such a high goal so he could make himself a martyr and after this begathon talk about how he didn't make enough to pay his taxes, but he's still staying positive you guys and needs your help and lets show those haters and detractors and how even though he's struggling, he's still there to put out quality content etc. Basically, Phil's whole gimmick work because he's so good at being a total failure, but if he actually succeeds at something for once, his narrative falls apart. We all know it certainly won't be the end of Phil by any stretch of the imagination, but I think it'll lead to some interesting spergouts. Even some of his fans (though rarely the big ones) were pointing out how Phil's narrative didn't make sense after the Tut sub spree, so I expect a few more to comment on it after E7.

Shifting gears to Phil being in communication with E7, I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't. I think the reason Phil keeps insisting E7 isn't coming back only to have E7 show up later with 100 more subs is because Phil is trying to guilt other people into donating, especially if they tip instead of do the gift sub thing.
 
What makes you think he has "plenty of equity" exactly?

Zillow, while not completly accurate says his house has nearly doubled in value since he bought it due to the Seattle area housing boom. i am sure his refinance will require an independent appraisal but anyone who has bought a house knows they are basically a joke and rarely come back with a lower value than wanted. being that anything outside the walls is not even his responsibility its not like something like needing a new roof or something like that would cause an issue for him, those things are paid for by the HOA.
 
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Eh it’s whatever, it’s all a band aid fix. Whales can’t only last for so long, and dsp has been on the decline in terms of actual growth that could help him for quite some time. This is a man who basically drove away a majority of his fanbase over the course of a console generation.
 
I always wanted to know why you couldn't refer to them as cash at all, is it something to do with twitch saving their asses?

I'm not a lawyer so I may not have this all right, but yes I believe it does have to do with covering themselves. If bits were money it would probably be comparable to a gift card and twitch would have to deal with laws around that and unclaimed property on dead accounts with bits. Additonally if you were banned with bits on your account you would have some claim to that money. Bits being a virtual good that is not property and you have no ownership of removes these issues. There is probably even more to it but this is some of what I've found while trying to answer this question for myself in the past.
 
Isn't DSP stuck in a loop now because now his taxes will be larger so he has to raise funds and pay them off? Thats what happened last year.
Thats why he doesnt want the full 16k in one month right? He's trying to split it between 2018 and 2019?

He's creating a terrible situation for himself. We all know and accept now that someone at some point will bail him out when he cries a little bit, but he's going to have to ask for more. If he makes more next time, he'll have to ask for more the following times. So on and on until his regular whales simply can't afford to help even if they wanted to. Then he has to rely on miracles like E7 showing up and giving him most/all the money themselves.

This is not only incredibly unlikely, it'll also kill him in the downtime between the beg-a-thons. Regular viewers will look at this 16k+ and think that he's alright for a while, so they'll donate less or not at all. He hasn't thought this through at all. And I can't wait for it to bend him over and resize his tight little asshole.
 

Quite amusing I thought
Honeslty perfect

Also nice to note playing Minecraft two days in a row would get boring, really shows how both how weak he is and how weak he assumes his audience is if he thinks playing Minecraft two days in a row would affect his viewerbase

“And people say oh wow, I guess Phil is just a Minecraft streamer now, guess I’ll go watch someone else. If you want me to play Minecraft two days in a row you’re hurting me. You, yes you!”
 
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