DC Comics Multimedia General - A crisis of infinite fuck ups

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As much as I like Cavill, I can fully understand the new management wanting to sweep away as much of the wreckage from the Snyder era as possible and a complete recast of the trinity is the best way to do that. It's long overdue and really should have been done as soon as Justice League tanked.
 
Calandrino said:
"God, I fucking hate our customers. Make them suffer, I don't care how much it costs."
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I don't know. I feel like at this point the Snyderverse is way past the point of salvagable. There's bits of it, sure, but as a whole would trying to keep it going really result in less "suffering"?

It's the wise decision to make, assuming a total reboot *is* the decision. If he keeps his pet favorites Margot Robbie and John Cena in their current roles well then never mind.

This also gives me hope that they recast Jason Mamoa as Lobo.
 
Welp, never mind.

I was pretty optimistic about Cavill returning, but canning him? Not really looking forward to what Gunn has in store for this now. I wasn't expecting a long 20-year legacy of Cavill as Superman, but I was hoping for some kind of connective tissue for the reboot where he's allowed to play the more positive role he wanted. It worked great in Days of Future Past for unfucking The X-Men. Sure they re-fucked it immediately afterwards, but at least we got Logan and the first Deadpool out of it.

Now there's no point in watching Aquaman 2 or the next Shazam if they're being replaced. I don't think Gunn will keep a comedy-serious balance and will just defer to his usual schtick.

The Nothingness said:
I never got the hype for that guy. His Suicide Squad just came off as an edgier Guardians to me and I had no interest in Peacemaker since that looked to be more of the same.
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I actually thought Guardians was total shit, but seeing his Suicide Squad and Brightburn films told me his methods work a lot better when he's allowed to be gory and violent. His movies are never really anything special, but they're competently directed, which is becoming the new golden standard in cinema.
 
xXx: State of the Union said:
I don't know. I feel like at this point the Snyderverse is way past the point of salvagable. There's bits of it, sure, but as a whole would trying to keep it going really result in less "suffering"?

It's the wise decision to make, assuming a total reboot *is* the decision. If he keeps his pet favorites Margot Robbie and John Cena in their current roles well then never mind.

This also gives me hope that they recast Jason Mamoa as Lobo.
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I expected some kind of reboot, but keeping Cavill seems like a no-brainer on par with holding onto Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool, Patrick Stewart as Prof X etc. Come to think of it, wiping the slate clean was also the gist of their previous, poorly-received, now-defunct plan. Details are scarce now, but I suspect the greatest retardation is yet to come.
 
Honestly I have no clue what the fuck is going on with the DCEU now, like I really get wanting to do a clean slate, but Cavill was a great choice for Superman. But whatever at least with him being gone as Superman he could at least do something he really wanted since he is starring i and working on a Warhammer 40K series
 
Doctor of Autism said:
Honestly I have no clue what the fuck is going on with the DCEU now, like I really get wanting to do a clean slate, but Cavill was a great choice for Superman. But whatever at least with him being gone as Superman he could at least do something he really wanted since he is starring i and working on a Warhammer 40K series
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Dude’s pushing 40, he looks great but if they’re planning a long game here (e.g. about a decade out, like the MCU) it kinda makes sense to restart with a younger actor for THE leading man of your new franchise.
 
Stumbled on a video by that Doomcock guy and his insiders, if legit as I don't know much about the guy, claim the decision came from Zaslav dealing with Affleck reworking his contract to continue as Batman. Supposedly he wanted more money and since Zaslav is trying to fix WB's spending habits, he said fuck it and told Gunn to reset the whole DC films to end Affleck's, Gadot's and sadly Cavill's expensive contracts. Take it with a grain of salt as I have no idea how credible Doomcock can be, but given how since Zaslav took over and exposed how bad WB's spending has been, it could be legit.
 
StevieLasVegas said:
Stumbled on a video by that Doomcock guy and his insiders, if legit as I don't know much about the guy, claim the decision came from Zaslav dealing with Affleck reworking his contract to continue as Batman. Supposedly he wanted more money and since Zaslav is trying to fix WB's spending habits, he said fuck it and told Gunn to reset the whole DC films to end Affleck's, Gadot's and sadly Cavill's expensive contracts. Take it with a grain of salt as I have no idea how credible Doomcock can be, but given how since Zaslav took over and exposed how bad WB's spending has been, it could be legit.
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I'm really confused by it all because if they're just going to start releasing contracts don't they still have to give the actors some big paydays?

Also aren't we reaching the tailend of cinematic universe capeshit? Marvel got there first and they won big time and now even they're looking pretty pathetic. Like @TVBForever wrote above DC should just do self contained movies. Like make a movie with The Flash and if Superman or Wonder Woman appears well that's cool like they crossover all the time in comics. But giant clusterfucker Justice League shit, please just stop already that stuff gets bloated and convoluted in comic books as is it's a nightmare to adapt.
 
Homer J. Fong said:
I'm really confused by it all because if they're just going to start releasing contracts don't they still have to give the actors some big paydays?

Also aren't we reaching the tailend of cinematic universe capeshit? Marvel got there first and they won big time and now even they're looking pretty pathetic. Like @TVBForever wrote above DC should just do self contained movies. Like make a movie with The Flash and if Superman or Wonder Woman appears well that's cool like they crossover all the time in comics. But giant clusterfucker Justice League shit, please just stop already that stuff gets bloated and convoluted in comic books as is it's a nightmare to adapt.
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Won't be surprised if they got some kind of severance pay. Not sure if Affleck had an extensive contract as I think he resigned just to do Flashpoint. If Doomcock's contacts turns out to be telling the truth, I wonder if Affleck will get the blame?
 
Homer J. Fong said:
I'm really confused by it all because if they're just going to start releasing contracts don't they still have to give the actors some big paydays?

Also aren't we reaching the tailend of cinematic universe capeshit? Marvel got there first and they won big time and now even they're looking pretty pathetic. Like @TVBForever wrote above DC should just do self contained movies. Like make a movie with The Flash and if Superman or Wonder Woman appears well that's cool like they crossover all the time in comics. But giant clusterfucker Justice League shit, please just stop already that stuff gets bloated and convoluted in comic books as is it's a nightmare to adapt.
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The DTV animated movies do have a lot of great writing, something that the DCEU doesn't. If they do a Son of Batman or a Batman Beyond movie, then I'm up for it.
 
xXx: State of the Union said:
I don't know. I feel like at this point the Snyderverse is way past the point of salvagable. There's bits of it, sure, but as a whole would trying to keep it going really result in less "suffering"?

It's the wise decision to make, assuming a total reboot *is* the decision. If he keeps his pet favorites Margot Robbie and John Cena in their current roles well then never mind.

This also gives me hope that they recast Jason Mamoa as Lobo.
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Is a DC universe salvageable at this point? I feel like if they just automatically rebooted this EU, there wouldn’t be so much interest in it than before, especially since the MCU is continuously slipping now. And we caught a glimpse of Gunn’s vision with The Suicide Squad, a movie I liked a lot but bombed even by COVID standards.

I really didn’t mind Robbie and Cena in their respective roles, even if Peacemaker is definitely not the character in the comics. What’s the hate for them for?
 
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Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed said:
Is a DC universe salvageable at this point?
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Coming from a DC fan, not really. All of their past movies this year have been flops. Even Batman has been said to be a bigger failure than depicted. It sucks, as some of these past films have been good, but the interest is just not there. The brand has little good will on the big screen. My hope right now is that some films, particularly Super Pets, get a comeback post-theatre like Mask of The Phantasm did, but who knows.

Honestly, a reboot is probably necessary, maybe even doing solo films again, but with so little hype behind anything, I am not sure it would pan out. DC should really up their gaming and animation divisions as those two at least produce mostly quality products and successes. It would be nice to get them to move beyond Batman at some point.

In other news, anyone see the new Justice League game?
 
Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed said:
Is a DC universe salvageable at this point? I feel like if they just automatically rebooted this EU, there wouldn’t be so much interest in it than before, especially since the MCU is continuously slipping now. And we caught a glimpse of Gunn’s vision with The Suicide Squad, a movie I liked a lot but bombed even by COVID standards.

I really didn’t mind Robbie and Cena in their respective roles, even Peacemaker is definitely not the character in the comics. What’s the hate for them for?
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No idea, but a reboot is certainly a better chance than continuing the clusterfuck they have going right now.

I don't think there is hate for Margot or Cena, but keeping them while ditching Cavill because they need a "total reboot" or whatever is going to have this universe start off with some bad blood from Cavil fans and just in general have another bad mark which DC doesn't need right now.
 
xXx: State of the Union said:
I don't think there is hate for Margot or Cena, but keeping them while ditching Cavill because they need a "total reboot" or whatever is going to have this universe start off with some bad blood from Cavil fans and just in general have another bad mark which DC doesn't need right now.
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Margot is hated as many believe her to be a poor Harley Quinn, though I think this is more a case of DC ruining the character than Robbie. Nu-Girl Boss Harley has been contentious forever and that is the version the DCEU leaned heavily on rather than abuse victim Harley. The abuse aspect that made the character is hardly brought up in the universe as it more-so romanticized the sick relationship between her and Joker for Hot Topic merchandise. Margot was also heavily involved in the panned Birds of Prey movie and I believe she pissed off many of the culture wars figures with some comments.

Cena is hated for his China shit as he has routinely been portrayed as a shill. People also seem to hate his PeaceMaker as they find him annoying.
 
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