DC Comics Multimedia General - A crisis of infinite fuck ups

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Xenomorphs Are Cute said:
Unless I'm wrong, he's not talking about Zack Snyder, but the comic writer SCOTT Snyder, I say this considering the post was specifically about comics.

Also, Zack literally was part of the reason Wonder Woman became good (Allan Beinberg was the bigger reason), ironically WB fucking him over got the worst issue in that film. The 2nd movie shows what happens when you take Allan & Zack out.

Aquaman earned a billion cause girls were horny & guys found it cool in a funny way. Shazam you might be right about honestly.
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Zach snyder. Geoff Johns new company is literally an IP farm. That's all he's about.

I"m not all that big on Snyder, but holy hell has Geoff Johns been a disaster outside of being a cooperate hack comic writer.

Justice League, Green Lantern, All bombs. Now he goes, takes Gary Frank, Jason Fabok, Francis Manpaul and others so they'll work with him. All DC's bigger artists, who now aren't going to be drawing much for DC, given how slow and limited their work is. It's like on the way out the door kicking the Multimedia wing of DC in the balls.

TVB said:
And his fans are absolute shit. Only Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Shazam did well because they didn't have the Snyder namesake, but even then their respective sequels have also been failures (I know the second Aquaman isn't out until a month from now at the time of this post, but it's been deemed a failure way before release, so it's already bad news for WB and DC).
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I'd argue if they'd been faithful to the source material, Shazam would have been MUCH more successful.
 
The more I see about Batman stories, the more I want someone to do a 1940's Batman.

In 2023, everyone knows Bruce Wayne is Batman. In the 1940's it's easier to obfuscate your identity, fewer cameras everywhere, more potential for Batman to be more of a mythical presence, not YouTube fodder.

I don't know...I guess I just want reasons to be less cynical about this stuff.
 
Not A Bunny said:
The more I see about Batman stories, the more I want someone to do a 1940's Batman.

In 2023, everyone knows Bruce Wayne is Batman. In the 1940's it's easier to obfuscate your identity, fewer cameras everywhere, more potential for Batman to be more of a mythical presence, not YouTube fodder.

I don't know...I guess I just want reasons to be less cynical about this stuff.
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I wouldn't mind seeing that in black and white, too. Classic film noir.
I've seen the 40s Batman serial, but every episode ended with Batman getting his shit kicked in for the cliffhanger, so it left a lot to be desired.
 
Watched Batman and Superman: Battle of the Super Sons.
Honestly, not a bad little movie. Had some genuinely funny moments to it. Like when John finds out his dad is Superman.
"My dad is Superman! This is the best birthday ever! Does this mean I'm a superhero too? Do I get to join the Justice League? *excited gasp* Do I get to meet Batman!?"
Was actually a cute movie. Not a lot of blood, the story isn't super serious (It involves Starro, so there was never a chance it was going to be serious) but really, it was a fun little film. The sort I would have no problem letting a kid actually watch. So much capeshit leans towards grim and edgy, it's refreshing to see one that was surprisingly wholesome.

Also recently binged all of Batman: The Brave and the Bold. Not gonna lie, I fucking loved it. The golden age silliness was fucking great, and they adapted some of my favorite stories. I especially loved how they had an episode with Batman confronting Joe Chill, with the Phantom Stranger voiced by Kevin Conroy and the Specter voiced by Mark Hamill. That was honestly almost as meta as the BTAS episode Beware the Gray Ghost.
 
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Sounds retarded enough. I can picture WB doing this.
 
Fuck your shared universe, can a nigga get a fucking Plastic Man movie already? Goddamn. Don't you make me reach through this screen and strangle you, I'll fucking do it.

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Battlefield2142EU said:
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Sounds retarded enough. I can picture WB doing this.
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Can...we just learn our fucking lesson? Shared universes stifle creativity. Make a good product. One good movie. Then if it's good and there's gas left you make a second.

Batman Begins, Superman, hell, even some of the movies mentioned in the article. Just do what you did with Joker more. If someone has an interesting idea for a character, do it. Don't force it, don't try to hamfistedly make it fit into something.
 
Still Exceptional said:
Watched Batman and Superman: Battle of the Super Sons.
Honestly, not a bad little movie. Had some genuinely funny moments to it. Like when John finds out his dad is Superman.
"My dad is Superman! This is the best birthday ever! Does this mean I'm a superhero too? Do I get to join the Justice League? *excited gasp* Do I get to meet Batman!?"
Was actually a cute movie. Not a lot of blood, the story isn't super serious (It involves Starro, so there was never a chance it was going to be serious) but really, it was a fun little film. The sort I would have no problem letting a kid actually watch. So much capeshit leans towards grim and edgy, it's refreshing to see one that was surprisingly wholesome.
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That came out a while ago. I remember writing up my review here at the time. It was a good movie. And it did a decent job of making the two kids central to the story without arbitrarily making them suddenly more capable than - or even as capable as - the adults. There was some nice absence of woke and even some arguably counter-woke. I seem to recall an idiot guidance counsellor at one point. Oh, and Starro is literally stabbed through the eye with an American flag - how's that for allegory! Lois is allowed to be capable without being The Girlboss and she and Superman work pretty well together.

The greatest triumph of the movie has to be it pulling off making Damien Wayne likeable without changing him from the arsehole little shit he is. I think this is the only time I have ever found that brat fun to watch. It's a miracle.

Still Exceptional said:
Also recently binged all of Batman: The Brave and the Bold. Not gonna lie, I fucking loved it. The golden age silliness was fucking great, and they adapted some of my favorite stories. I especially loved how they had an episode with Batman confronting Joe Chill, with the Phantom Stranger voiced by Kevin Conroy and the Specter voiced by Mark Hamill. That was honestly almost as meta as the BTAS episode Beware the Gray Ghost.
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The Joe Chill episode is genuinely emotional. The show had superb writing managing to go from insanity to moving and back again. So much of it is just hilarious and the characters are so vividly drawn. Captain Atom is a stuck-up prick. Huntress is sexy, Catwoman is sultry, Joker is genuinely loathesome. Aquaman is... outrageous.

It also had some stonking musical numbers. Not just the classic Music Meister episode (which actually got a sweet romantic subplot between Green Arrow and Black Canary), but Emperor Joker ("Where's the fun in that?" song) and personal favourite - the Birds of Prey song from "Matches Malone" which is just stuffed so full of inuendo my jaw dropped.

It was so filled with genuinely affectionate references like how they used the theme from the Wonder Woman TV show when she came in. Also, Batman's bewildered "what does she see in that guy" about Steve Trevor still cracks me up.

The show was perfect. Final episode was really very touching.
 
Overly Serious said:
the Birds of Prey song from "Matches Malone" which is just stuffed so full of inuendo my jaw dropped.
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I loved the innuendo in the song, absolutely dripping with double entendres. That episode also more or less confirms that all of the ladies want the batdong. Which fits because they made Batman an absolute Chad in The Brave and The Bold. Dude is still somewhat brooding, but way more positive and optimistic than most versions of Batman. Plus he's an absolute goddamn genius in this show. Probably the smartest version of Batman ever portrayed on screen.


Overly Serious said:
Aquaman is... outrageous.
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I fucking adore their version of Aquaman. Dude was so upbeat and wholesome it's hard not to become infected with his boyish enthusiasm.
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Even Batman is like "Okay, calm down there Arthur." He's like a big kid with superpowers.
 
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Everything people wrote on Batman: the Brave and the Bold is not only on point, but its greatest triumph, IMO?

Being a non-campy Adam West/66' Batman with an entire time-appropriate DCU to play with. Even better remembering Batman's direct elements (like Wayne Manor's entryway to the Batcave) and villains took directly from the '66 show, but the Wondy show theme indicating she's a distilled '77 version and Superman obviously invoking his classic 1978 movie as well.

To be especially cheesy, I like to imagine this as the animated Earth-2 to the DCAU's Earth-1.
 
Still Exceptional said:
I fucking adore their version of Aquaman. Dude was so upbeat and wholesome it's hard not to become infected with his boyish enthusiasm.
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Even Batman is like "Okay, calm down there Arthur." He's like a big kid with superpowers.
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Yea, that version of Aquaman is my favorite Aquaman. I really liked his more over-the-top excited behavior. He's a manchild with charisma, basically a more capeshit Pee-Wee, Mr. Bean or SpongeBob.
Mayor Cody Travers said:
Everything people wrote on Batman: the Brave and the Bold is not only on point, but its greatest triumph, IMO?

Being a non-campy Adam West/66' Batman with an entire time-appropriate DCU to play with. Even better remembering Batman's direct elements (like Wayne Manor's entryway to the Batcave) and villains took directly from the '66 show, but the Wondy show theme indicating she's a distilled '77 version and Superman obviously invoking his classic 1978 movie as well.

To be especially cheesy, I like to imagine this as the animated Earth-2 to the DCAU's Earth-1.
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The Brave and the Bold was based
 
Mayor Cody Travers said:
Even better remembering Batman's direct elements (like Wayne Manor's entryway to the Batcave) and villains took directly from the '66 show, but the Wondy show theme indicating she's a distilled '77 version and Superman obviously invoking his classic 1978 movie as well.
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I tried to find the scene where WW saves Steve Trevors from a Nazi supervillainess and whilst it's easily findable on YouTube, it's an edited clipped around version so I wont link it here out of perfectionism. The way the 70's WW theme kicks in is great.
TVB said:
Yea, that version of Aquaman is my favorite Aquaman. I really liked his more over-the-top excited behavior. He's a manchild with charisma, basically a more capeshit Pee-Wee, Mr. Bean or SpongeBob.
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I particularly liked the episode where he takes his family on vacation and all the way through he's trying to secretly fight crime with Batman without them noticing. It's a fun episode about balancing work/family/going out with the boys.

B&B Aquaman is such a good all round person as well. In the episode where Captain Atom loses his powers and makes a remark about being ordinary like Batman, Aquaman is absolutely aghast. Despite Aquaman being able to bench a truck and being actual royalty, he has never once thought of Batman as less than he is - in fact, he admires Batman greatly.
 
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