DC Comics Multimedia General - A crisis of infinite fuck ups

[el bandito loco]

really requires both parties to be sincere in their belief.

My thought process on that years ago, is that the Question trusts Oliver because Oliver explicitly like him, truly believes and wont compromise on what he believes in, the Question just thinks Oliver's beliefs are retarded and visa versa. and also both are so irritating in their politics there is nobody else willing to even argue with either of them.

They see somewhat of a kinship in one another by virtue of both being entirely unconvincable to anything but their preconceived biases. it's less so what he believes, but how hardcore he believes. but again these are versions of these dudes I was making up and don't have a *ton* of character because theyre basically cameos in something that has nothing to do with them, although Oliver shows up a lot just to irritate Clark throughout he never has any arc or anything he's a running gag.

but them being friends isnt something I made up, Question and Green Arrow are both the only other heroes who crossed over into each other's 80s runs. Hal shows up as Hal in Grell's Arrow, and Batman actually shows up in both of the two titles but in a three way crossover between them, but other than that Green Arrow and Question were the only heroes each other interacted with for the entirety of the 80s even though they never really get along so that's what made me pair them together in the first place.

 

[Prehistoric Jazz]

Arrow, Batman and Question are having a black label book right now

 

[el bandito loco]

Arrow, Batman and Question are having a black label book right now

I just looked that up, had no idea. Hopefully it's good I'll probably end up buying it once it hits hardcover. They're an interesting trio with a lot of similarities between each other while being radically different personalities that are all fighting to out lone wolf each other

 

[Newcomer 42]

*notices the Happy Merchant in the corner of TQ's conspiracy table*
Top kek. In a comic world like DC, where Hitler used the Longinus Spear IIRC, demons exist and come in different flavors, and so do evil aliens, politicians and more, jews being say evil lizardmen bent on exterminating humanity wouldn't stand out too much.

 

[el bandito loco]

just because id probably never bring it up again, id also like to note the entire Green Arrow/Question connection in the bullshit I was writing was basically payoff to a joke prior that was a watchmen reference. It was an inversion of rorschach noting ozymandias is "possibly homosexual". way earlier on Bruce is telling Clark other than him and Lois, the only journalist worth a fuck is Vic Sage, who is also the Question. and Clark says he's read his work and heard of the question, and asks what his deal is, and Bruce says possibly homosexual, and Clark stares at him which Batman follows by telling him the only time the question has ever been seen with any other capes it's been him and green arrow fist fighting and wrestling on various rooftops, alleys and other places like 80 times over the last 5 years, Clark just shakes his head and leaves batman muttering to himself "damn good journalist though"

way later I was going back through trying to see if there was any continuity stuff I was fucking up on or if I could make it look like I set something up on purpose and found that and went oh yeah ill bring in the question and make Ollie have his phone number.

because I was just doing that to entertain myself there was a lot of goofy character shit in there I wouldn't probably want in a real dc comic but it made me laugh. Dick Grayson is basically there the whole time just saying insane shit, and always calls batman "pop"

I wanted to bring the question in for basically Clark Kent vs legacy media but I couldn't figure out how to write that because I was like 21 and didnt know shit so I skipped that and left it as a note for an arc to write later and then did more punch em up shit instead lol

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

Another James Gunn project cancelled.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

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Another James Gunn project cancelled.

Probably due to Superman underperforming, which we now have confirmation of as Netflix’s ceo came out and said it when pressed by the US government on the merger.

 

[Kether]

DeathStroke had sex with 16 year old Terra.

Andy Warski is a DC Villian?

Like if any DC characters were to be posters on here,

this isn't some cool club where people get hot scoops and share quality theories. you're thinking of lolcow farms. this place is more like where Wonder Woman comes from

I could see Lobo posting on here and becoming a very love it or hate it regular

what website are you talking about? he'd be hated here. look how he treats women. he's a turkey tom for sure

 

[soulgains]

Me and the wife have been watching Mad Men, and our daughter asked Jon Hamm. It got me thinking, why havent they done a period piece where Batman is actually a hard boiled detective? Make it like Poirot, it could easily be low budget and still be good.

 

[Incecticyder]

Me and the wife have been watching Mad Men, and our daughter asked Jon Hamm. It got me thinking, why havent they done a period piece where Batman is actually a hard boiled detective? Make it like Poirot, it could easily be low budget and still be good.

Because it would be pointless. Batman = badass detective with gadgets that beats criminals. If you make him like any other detective, what is the point? Why strip the character of his iconic features? His identity makes him an icon.

 

[Humble Architect]

this isn't some cool club where people get hot scoops and share quality theories. you're thinking of lolcow farms. this place is more like where Wonder Woman comes from

what website are you talking about? he'd be hated here. look how he treats women. he's a turkey tom for sure

Not all of the site subscribes to the pedestal Josh Kyanka does. Women and shitposting are inherently incompatible because that requires humour, which women are incapable of.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Me and the wife have been watching Mad Men, and our daughter asked Jon Hamm. It got me thinking, why havent they done a period piece where Batman is actually a hard boiled detective? Make it like Poirot, it could easily be low budget and still be good.

That’s kind of what Bruce Timm’s new series, Batman Caped Crusader is.

It is an idealized period piece set in the 1940s with a more toned down Batman, you just have to accept the random inclusions of black people.

 

[el bandito loco]

Me and the wife have been watching Mad Men, and our daughter asked Jon Hamm. It got me thinking, why havent they done a period piece where Batman is actually a hard boiled detective? Make it like Poirot, it could easily be low budget and still be good.

Because it would be pointless. Batman = badass detective with gadgets that beats criminals. If you make him like any other detective, what is the point? Why strip the character of his iconic features? His identity makes him an icon.

I think he just meant a period piece 1 and done mystery story per episode thing not make Batman act like Hercule Poirot, lol.

Although actually Adam West Batman acted like Poirot a little bit, every now and then an episode would end with him standing around explaining every convoluted part of the episodes plot to the villains who orchestrated it and the incompetent police he works with, basically just rambling.

But to the idea of just doing like 1940s noir Batman cheaply on TV, they would never do it just because it's a good idea. That's basically all id want out of a Batman TV show but instead they keep making shit like Gotham, Batgirl and other things of that nature. It used to be because of the TV/Movie character separation at WB, where if one side used someone the other couldn't (Superman and Smallville only got the exception in 06 because hes only Clark Kent and it was the WBs most successful show but if they could have, corporate WB would have ended that show just because Superman Returns was coming out)

But now, they wouldnt make it because James Gunn isnt going to want to share the spotlight. We've seen the whole debacle and constantly shifting stories on The Batman 2 over the last 5 years, and you know since Reeves wont join his DCU he wishes that franchise didnt exist, there's no way he'd allow another, also good Batman franchise on TV at the same time as Brave and the Bold.

If I was in charge tbh for TV I would love to do 1940s period piece shows for Batman and Superman. Batman being a mystery show fighting gangsters and Bill finger-esque versions of his rogues, Superman being also probably a mystery show but about Clark Kent the journalist, and Superman going and beating the shit out of problems his stories won't stop, and the occasional luthor or somebody causing problems.

I want to see the end of the Golden Age of Hollywood, Hollywood Babylon type scandal clusterfuck Batman vs Clayface mystery. That would be fucking incredible. Batman having to wade through like seedy casting couch directors, drug addicted child stars, things like that in the age of the most extreme hollywood excess hunting a killer.

 

[Incecticyder]

I think he just meant a period piece 1 and done mystery story per episode thing not make Batman act like Hercule Poirot, lol.

Although actually Adam West Batman acted like Poirot a little bit, every now and then an episode would end with him standing around explaining every convoluted part of the episodes plot to the villains who orchestrated it and the incompetent police he works with, basically just rambling.

But to the idea of just doing like 1940s noir Batman cheaply on TV, they would never do it just because it's a good idea. That's basically all id want out of a Batman TV show but instead they keep making shit like Gotham, Batgirl and other things of that nature. It used to be because of the TV/Movie character separation at WB, where if one side used someone the other couldn't (Superman and Smallville only got the exception in 06 because hes only Clark Kent and it was the WBs most successful show but if they could have, corporate WB would have ended that show just because Superman Returns was coming out)

But now, they wouldnt make it because James Gunn isnt going to want to share the spotlight. We've seen the whole debacle and constantly shifting stories on The Batman 2 over the last 5 years, and you know since Reeves wont join his DCU he wishes that franchise didnt exist, there's no way he'd allow another, also good Batman franchise on TV at the same time as Brave and the Bold.

If I was in charge tbh for TV I would love to do 1940s period piece shows for Batman and Superman. Batman being a mystery show fighting gangsters and Bill finger-esque versions of his rogues, Superman being also probably a mystery show but about Clark Kent the journalist, and Superman going and beating the shit out of problems his stories won't stop, and the occasional luthor or somebody causing problems.

I want to see the end of the Golden Age of Hollywood, Hollywood Babylon type scandal clusterfuck Batman vs Clayface mystery. That would be fucking incredible. Batman having to wade through like seedy casting couch directors, drug addicted child stars, things like that in the age of the most extreme hollywood excess hunting a killer.

Still, even a Batman period piece would be expensive in live action if you are meant to do it right. The villains will have to be redesigned, his gadgets will have to be limited to what was possible etc etc. It is not as easy as it sounds.

 

[strumpets exeunt]

you just have to accept the random inclusions of black people.

No, I don't think I will

 

[Newcomer 42]

That’s kind of what Bruce Timm’s new series, Batman Caped Crusader is.

It is an idealized period piece set in the 1940s with a more toned down Batman, you just have to accept the random inclusions of black people.

Random inclusions? There's like a nig for every 2 people on screen! In 1940! And even disregarding that, the show had massive writing problems such as having Batman be a secondary in his own show (and be often shown as incapable of fighting), they blew up the police station in the first chapter but nothing happens from that, Harley is no longer allowed to be sexy so now she's an Asian psychologist who tortures white rich men for fun (wut), Two-Face's drama is related someone else other than Bruce Wayne and all of the females are fuck-ugly without exception.

 

[Humble Architect]

It is an idealized period piece set in the 1940s with a more toned down Batman, you just have to accept the random inclusions of black people.

You’ll have to accept my boot on your neck, since we just “have to accept” things we don’t like.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Random inclusions? There's like a nig for every 2 people on screen! In 1940! And even disregarding that, the show had massive writing problems such as having Batman be a secondary in his own show (and be often shown as incapable of fighting), they blew up the police station in the first chapter but nothing happens from that, Harley is no longer allowed to be sexy so now she's an Asian psychologist who tortures white rich men for fun (wut), Two-Face's drama is related someone else other than Bruce Wayne and all of the females are fuck-ugly without exception.

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You’ll have to accept my boot on your neck, since we just “have to accept” things we don’t like.

Sorry, not really advocating for the show, just telling OP his want technically exists. The entire idea of Caped Crusader is to be a period piece, though the black cops taking up majority screentime breaks any immersion for the 1940s setting, hence the warning.

But yes, @soulgains would definitely make note of what @Newcomer 42 wrote. It really struggles with focus as it makes the fem-cop squad the main focus rather than any good Batman parts. Have no clue if Timm is just really bad without a tard wrangler or he had less influence over this one then stated.

all of the females are fuck-ugly without exception.

Catwoman ain't bad.

 

[Newcomer 42]

Catwoman ain't bad.

The exception to the rule, and she shows for like 1 episode. Also, this Catwoman was shown to be rather dumb, unlike any other version of her (probably because she's white). Plus, the show felt short, even though most episodes aren't connected. It reminded me of the classic BTAS but with woke overload and worse animation (there's a Clayface episode which sucked, you could replace CF with someone else and it wouldn't change anything)

If you want a 40s Bats, there's the First and Second Knight/s, recent comics of Bats set in the 1940s, plus Hollywood Knight, a comic also set in the 40s IIRC.

 

[el bandito loco]

Sorry, not really advocating for the show, just telling OP his want technically exists. The entire idea of Caped Crusader is to be a period piece, though the black cops taking up majority screentime breaks any immersion for the 1940s setting, hence the warning.

honestly my biggest disappointment with that show personally wasn't that there was girl power and black people everywhere, it was that they didn't commit to the 1940s and the tech of the time at all in any way shape or form and it really pissed me off, because doing that aesthetic and not having batman relying on tech of the time got rid of the main draw for me to it, I thought we were going to get modern storytelling but shit like that first year or two of Batman in detective comics, we definitely got modern storytelling but not what I meant at all, and it's been long enough I don't remember specifically what tech he used but it wasn't the 40s and took me out entirely.

Still, even a Batman period piece would be expensive in live action if you are meant to do it right. The villains will have to be redesigned, his gadgets will have to be limited to what was possible etc etc. It is not as easy as it sounds.

I mean, yeah but I still think it's easy. you don't need to redesign a lot of the villains, a lot of them were around in the 40s, you'd just do what they looked like then, the gadgets being limited would make the show cost less. most of the cost would probably be sets, costumes, cars, whatever but they've done relatively cheap period pieces on tv for all of time. it's not like the show would cost nothing, but it wouldn't necessitate a HBO budget.

If you want a 40s Bats, there's the First and Second Knight/s, recent comics of Bats set in the 1940s, plus Hollywood Knight, a comic also set in the 40s IIRC.

hollywood knight is absolutely terrible though just to note, if you want 40s Bats, don't read that because it's worse than the caped crusader show. you're better off just reading detective comics 27-40 from then, can't speak to Second Knight yet, first one was alright