DC Comics Multimedia General - A crisis of infinite fuck ups

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el bandito loco said:
I mean, yeah but I still think it's easy. you don't need to redesign a lot of the villains, a lot of them were around in the 40s, you'd just do what they looked like then, the gadgets being limited is would make the show cost less. most of the cost would probably be sets, costumes, cars, whatever but they've done relatively cheap period pieces on tv for all of time. it's not like the show would cost nothing, but it wouldn't necessitate a HBO budget.
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The sets would cost a lot (not as much as earlier eras but still), characters have changed in personality and characterization (to the point some of their iconic aspects would be impossible for the time), writing would have to be accurate to the era (including other changes that would have to take the climate of the time into consideration), stuntwork would cost a bitch and a half (that is an issue no matter what) and, do not forget, they will have to work with woke idiots that will ruin everything.
 
Newcomer 42 said:
having Batman be a secondary in his own show (and be often shown as incapable of fighting)
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He's fine against men, he's just no match for a dumpy asian lesbian. And his story gets sidelined in favor of the lesbians.

Basic Blond Boy said:
Have no clue if Timm is just really bad without a tard wrangler or he had less influence over this one then stated.
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My guess is that he's getting "tard wrangled" by the Netflix diversoids but he can't really complain about it the way he could with children's TV execs. He's no doubt a liberal dude but if you look at his oeuvre, even in his weaker works, tiddies have always been one of his core themes.
 
Starman John said:
The Ohio Motion Picture Tax lists the James Gunn Superman sequel Man of Tomorrow as having a 330 million dollar budget.
They never learn.
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I suspect that James Gunn may be expediting the development of the Superman sequel because he is aware that both Netflix and Paramount might prioritize other reboot projects over his DC Universe initiatives. The Netflix CEO has publicly expressed a less favorable view of the Superman franchise, referring to it as a flop. It seems that James Gunn might be aware of the challenges and uncertainties with both platforms regarding his projects.
 
el bandito loco said:
But to the idea of just doing like 1940s noir Batman cheaply on TV, they would never do it just because it's a good idea
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i remember some weird autistic youtuber was trying to do it years before AI, like do a typical docuseries youtubers do except instead of the rise and fall of destiny its early 1900s batman. i'm honestly surprised more people don't take advantage of public domain stuff and can't wait for the 2030s wave of everyone using DC heroes for their projects. you'd think between AI and public domain; DC would be whoring their heroes out and trying to churn out as much content as possible the way Sony is doing with Spiderman.

superman is 8 years from public domain. lex luthor/batman/robin/joker/catwoman is 10 years away. that sounds like forever but when it takes a couple years to even release a tv show or movie, and then the inevitable followups it hits sooner than you think.
 
Kether said:
i remember some weird autistic youtuber was trying to do it years before AI, like do a typical docuseries youtubers do except instead of the rise and fall of destiny its early 1900s batman. i'm honestly surprised more people don't take advantage of public domain stuff and can't wait for the 2030s wave of everyone using DC heroes for their projects. you'd think between AI and public domain; DC would be whoring their heroes out and trying to churn out as much content as possible the way Sony is doing with Spiderman.

superman is 8 years from public domain. lex luthor/batman/robin/joker/catwoman is 10 years away. that sounds like forever but when it takes a couple years to even release a tv show or movie, and then the inevitable followups it hits sooner than you think.
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I wonder what the legalities are of producing the work then sitting on it until the rights clear?
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
I wonder what the legalities are of producing the work then sitting on it until the rights clear?
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that does make me wonder about parody law too. like The People's joker, it was allowed because it was a "parody" of the 2019 film, but what would have stopped them from sitting on the film and recutting it once public domain ended and just selling it as The Joker. from what i read on wikipedia they even had to move the release date of The People's Joker because they didn't get the clearances in time.

Parody law in general means shit like Brightburn or People's joker are being released now instead of having to wait years but what's stopping anyone from producing works under the guise of parody and pulling a bait and switch once the rights are in the public domain
 
Battlefield2142EU said:
I suspect that James Gunn may be expediting the development of the Superman sequel because he is aware that both Netflix and Paramount might prioritize other reboot projects over his DC Universe initiatives. The Netflix CEO has publicly expressed a less favorable view of the Superman franchise, referring to it as a flop. It seems that James Gunn might be aware of the challenges and uncertainties with both platforms regarding his projects.
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You know your works are shit when the uber-woke Netflix considers your movies trash. His universe is doomed to fail. What then?
Kether said:
producing works under the guise of parody and pulling a bait and switch once the rights are in the public domain
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Mickey Mouse has been in the public domain for a while and fuck-all has been done with it, though. I bet a horror movie will be made with the superheroes and then not much for a few years.
 
Newcomer 42 said:
What then?
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The preferences vary depending on the studio acquiring the Warner Bros. rights. If I had to guess Netflix would likely desire an Absolute Batman Batman film, whereas Paramount may aim to re-engage Christopher Nolan for a DC reboot universe, possibly envisaging a sequel trilogy to The Dark Knight
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
the Morgan and Morgan ad is still running on TV as-of, I think I saw it either last week or week before
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*checks* Huh, I didn't know that, but then again I'm not American so it was hard for me to know. Even then, it seems Disney tried to sue them, probably by instinct, kek. Still not a movie, cartoon or anything, though.
If you had access to OG Batman, you would likely want to do something better than an ad with Batman selling you something.

Battlefield2142EU said:
If I had to guess Netflix would likely desire an Absolute Batman Batman film,
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It would probably be as derpy as the Invincible cartoon. Shame we can't have the Knightfall arc done in a proper cartoon these days.

Battlefield2142EU said:
whereas Paramount may aim to re-engage Christopher Nolan for a DC reboot universe, possibly envisaging a sequel trilogy to The Dark Knight
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In before the Snyderverse comes back in some form.
 
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The depiction of Lex Luthor being defeated by a bear armed with a knife was regarded as the most commendable fight within a tournament arc comic. You know DC KO an awful event comic when Samantha Strong showing up in five pages was the highlight of the event.
 
Newcomer 42 said:
Mickey Mouse has been in the public domain for a while and fuck-all has been done with it, though. I bet a horror movie will be made with the superheroes and then not much for a few years.
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Copyright laws are weird, especially for long-running IP. Batman may become public domain, but the franchise will largely stay under Warner for years to come as every villain and side character will need to be waited on for their date. Even Batman himself will need to be waited on in many cases as each iteration is technically its own copyright, which is why the only Mickey we are seeing in public domain is black & white Steamboat Willie and not the more iconic colored version. The only Batman you can legally have once public domain opens up will be the 1939 comic version, not more iconic looks like Adam West or the Animated Series.
 
Newcomer 42 said:
Shame we can't have the Knightfall arc done in a proper cartoon these days.
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Scheduled for this year.

Basic Blond Boy said:
Copyright laws are weird, especially for long-running IP. Batman may become public domain, but the franchise will largely stay under Warner for years to come as every villain and side character will need to be waited on for their date. Even Batman himself will need to be waited on in many cases as each iteration is technically its own copyright, which is why the only Mickey we are seeing in public domain is black & white Steamboat Willie and not the more iconic colored version. The only Batman you can legally have once public domain opens up will be the 1939 comic version, not more iconic looks like Adam West or the Animated Series.
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This is true but... I'd personally like a Batman whose primary antagonists were gangsters and hoods rather than Supervillains. It would let him play to his strengths as a street level hero who used fear and stealth to strike terror into criminals.
 
Incecticyder said:
The sets would cost a lot (not as much as earlier eras but still), characters have changed in personality and characterization (to the point some of their iconic aspects would be impossible for the time), writing would have to be accurate to the era (including other changes that would have to take the climate of the time into consideration), stuntwork would cost a bitch and a half (that is an issue no matter what) and, do not forget, they will have to work with woke idiots that will ruin everything.
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I think youre really overselling the difficulty of this, it's not any harder at all than doing a Batman thing set now. The only really issue is shitty writing ruining it, which of course is a given now. If we had competent writers who understood their assignment was to write something set in 42 or whatever without injecting their modern faggotry, it would be simple. that said, that's more than you could ask of hollywood these days.

Most media for general audiences has always sort of sucked or been dumb but it's amazing to me how low the bar keeps sinking.
Kether said:
i remember some weird autistic youtuber was trying to do it years before AI, like do a typical docuseries youtubers do except instead of the rise and fall of destiny its early 1900s batman. i'm honestly surprised more people don't take advantage of public domain stuff and can't wait for the 2030s wave of everyone using DC heroes for their projects. you'd think between AI and public domain; DC would be whoring their heroes out and trying to churn out as much content as possible the way Sony is doing with Spiderman.

superman is 8 years from public domain. lex luthor/batman/robin/joker/catwoman is 10 years away. that sounds like forever but when it takes a couple years to even release a tv show or movie, and then the inevitable followups it hits sooner than you think.
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I think that series was suggested to me once but I didnt click on it. despite what people'd probably think because of my interests, I almost never watch superhero related shit on YouTube because comics content is usually garbage. culture war shit, or movie related shit, or some faggot reading the comic to you with gay voices, which i don't care to waste my time with any of. Honestly I probably should have watched that because id wager even if it sucks, it's probably top 5% of batman related YouTube videos beyond just clips from Adam West or one of the cartoons.

The public domain is such a weird can of worms because theres only so much you can do with something unless the entirety of a work is in it. If I was a better writer I'd love to do some Batman or Superman material but all the shit id want to play with won't be available until like the 2050s.

I think there's also weird stipulations for things that sort of compete with official works so I think that's why we dont just have some shitty cheapo studio pumping out an old school mickey mouse series already and why we probably won't have a superman movie just about a dude named Clark Kent with an S on his chest who tanks bullets and jumps high right out of the gate in a decade.
 
el bandito loco said:
I think youre really overselling the difficulty of this, it's not any harder at all than doing a Batman thing set now. The only really issue is shitty writing ruining it, which of course is a given now. If we had competent writers who understood their assignment was to write something set in 42 or whatever without injecting their modern faggotry, it would be simple. that said, that's more than you could ask of hollywood these days.

Most media for general audiences has always sort of sucked or been dumb but it's amazing to me how low the bar keeps sinking.
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It really is not that easy. The stuntwork alone would be a major concern. You do not want a Sherlock Holmes with a Batman mask. You want Batman in a timepiece. Stunts, fights, gadgets, everything. All that costs money and come with risks. Look at Batwoman. Ruby was nearly crippled.

Add the fact that they will have to capture the feel of the era and you get a lot of things that could go wrong.

And yes, it would have to be free from woke if we need it to be authentic to the time. Good luck with that.
 
Overly Serious said:
cheduled for this year.
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I know, but I'm not expecting much from Western studios these days.
I meant the event plus whatever happened after, as the Azrael guy was pretty much Absolute Bats but done better, and earlier.

Overly Serious said:
This is true but... I'd personally like a Batman whose primary antagonists were gangsters and hoods rather than Supervillains. It would let him play to his strengths as a street level hero who used fear and stealth to strike terror into criminals.
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You could do The Shadow at that point, or a stand-in for that guy who used face masks who was meant to be Batman but couldn't hold the rights. Darkman IIRC.

Incecticyder said:
Add the fact that they will have to capture the feel of the era and you get a lot of things that could go wrong.
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Not happening anytime soon until the deviancy is put back under control. That being said, the Pennyworth series was odd, as it featured a totalitarian, execution-happy England from an alt-60/70s with no issue, and not too many blacks IIRC, plus lots of violence and gore (although the psycho bitch who enslaved and forced random families to wear BSMD gear was a bit too much and someone's fetish, I bet).
 
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