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Overly Serious said:
Likewise, whoever did the voice for B:tBatB has a very good voice for the character - deep, resonant. Honestly sounds like a big guy. But he's in a version that is slightly hard to compare like to like with Kevin Conroy in B:TAS.
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I hate to be the one to break this to you, but it's better you learn this from me than out there on the streets.
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strumpets exeunt said:
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but it's better you learn this from me than out there on the streets.
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For a moment I thought you meant that Kevin Conroy was the VA for both shows and I had made myself look silly. But looking it up it's someone called Dietrich Bader and he is 6'2" so I was right about that. I recognise he's the guy in your photo but I've no idea what that's from. I don't know him outside B:tBatB, I think.
 
Overly Serious said:
For a moment I thought you meant that Kevin Conroy was the VA for both shows and I had made myself look silly. But looking it up it's someone called Dietrich Bader and he is 6'2" so I was right about that. I recognise he's the guy in your photo but I've no idea what that's from. I don't know him outside B:tBatB, I think.
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That's from the film Grandma's Boy Office Space

EDIT: I'm blaming night shift brain for my fuck up
 
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Overly Serious said:
I think the question is hard to separate from the media the actor appears in.
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Depends, some actors are good enough to be the perfect fit regardless of the shotty material they are handed. Case in point, best Superman may arguably come from one of the worst films:
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The CW in general follows this mold, damn near perfect casting for shows that are very love/hate with DC fans. I don't think anyone hates Grant Guston as Flash or Melissa Benoist as Supergirl. They are perfect actors for the roles and in many ways are the definitive "voices" for those characters regardless of the CW being the CW. The DCEU has less of this, but one would be hard-pressed if they didn't say Cavill was a great Superman choice given one of the worst adaptations.


On the opposite spectrum, some actors are just good all-around even when divorced from their particular version. Clancy Brown Lex is just Lex Luthor to me, doesn't matter the context, he works in all. Man can play the serious, menacing Lex, yet also go into the LEGO games where he has to play in a comedy cast and kills it every time. Maybe it is the straight man appeal, but he just works.
 
What I always hated was Routh got jacked for Scott Pilgrim and then Chuck, and looked even more like he would be a better Superman, maybe he did it because his agent told him if he got in MCU hero shape it would be easier to carry him into the new Superman movie at the time. But he never got the chance until later on a CW show.
 
Solomon Bundy said:
Are you trolling? That's Ron Livingston's neighbor from Office Space.
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@StevieLasVegas I have withdrawn your Informative rating. You don't deserve it!

Basic Blond Boy said:
On the opposite spectrum, some actors are just good all-around even when divorced from their particular version. Clancy Brown Lex is just Lex Luthor to me, doesn't matter the context, he works in all. Man can play the serious, menacing Lex, yet also go into the LEGO games where he has to play in a comedy cast and kills it every time. Maybe it is the straight man appeal, but he just works.
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He's excellent. And the sad thing is that were the JLU cartoon to be made today, he wouldn't be cast because IIRC that Lex happened to be Black and CB is White. Despite having the perfect voice.

I don't think kid's shows are as intelligent as they used to be, as an aside.

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mandatorylurk said:
What I always hated was Routh got jacked for Scott Pilgrim and then Chuck, and looked even more like he would be a better Superman, maybe he did it because his agent told him if he got in MCU hero shape it would be easier to carry him into the new Superman movie at the time. But he never got the chance until later on a CW show.
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Routh was a good Superman and an excellent Clark Kent. The CW show Legends of Tomorrow was insanity but it really gave him a chance to show off him playing up the goofy superbly. The proposal dinner scene in a later season where he's set up this whole thing to propose to a villain's daughter only for said villain dad to show up, get the wrong end of the stick, daughter have to pretend that she's really dating John Constantine, for villain to hurl John Constantine into a wall whilst shouting "Brexit!" and Brandon Routh to be hovering around in the background pantomiming that there's an engagement ring in the souffle, yeah - right actor, wrong movie. Definitely. He has the build to play Superman and the talent to play Clark. Missed opportunity.
 
Overly Serious said:
In the JLU cartoon? From the colouring I always assumed he was Black.

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Though you're right - it does shift around a bit:
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You know I haven't seen this stuff in a very long time. I appear to have mis-remembered, I think you're right.

John Stewart is still Black, right?
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Yes, John Stewart is still black. They did make him bald in Justice League Unlimited though
 
Overly Serious said:
In the JLU cartoon? From the colouring I always assumed he was Black.

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Though you're right - it does shift around a bit:
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You know I haven't seen this stuff in a very long time. I appear to have mis-remembered, I think you're right.

John Stewart is still Black, right?
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I think that, if they would go with this Lex in live action, Taye Diggs is the perfect casting.
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Right now, he's 55 but looks 40 so he's just right for the role.
 
Overly Serious said:
In the JLU cartoon? From the colouring I always assumed he was Black.
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A lot of people did. He was definitely given a darker skin tone than any other character, made more evident in the toys. DC even gaslights the idea that he was black in the Harley Quinn series, where they fully played into it, even giving him 3 different black voice actors.

Doesn’t help that he has some pretty black facial features in the DCAU, which just adds to the confusion. Thanks to it, Lex is probably one of those characters where you could race swap and most people wouldn’t care. A lighter skinned black sort of works for him.

StevieLasVegas said:
Yes, John Stewart is still black. They did make him bald in Justice League Unlimited though
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He looks better with the bald head and facial hair.
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Basic Blond Boy said:
Doesn’t help that he has some pretty black facial features in the DCAU, which just adds to the confusion. Thanks to it, Lex is probably one of those characters where you could race swap and most people wouldn’t care. A lighter skinned black sort of works for him.
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Unless we get into American racial politics, I can't really see that skin colour makes any difference to the character of Lex. He's a driven, brilliant, hubristic man and, in the better interpretations, largely self-made. Black or White doesn't seem to impact those qualities either way. He should be American though. That's pretty central. He's almost the ideal of the American Entrepreneur businessman.
 
The co-creator of Primer, Tom Krajewski, recently responded to a fan that an animated series may be in production?
"They definitely need to make an animated series about Primer. She could be DC's equivalent to Marvel's Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur show."
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"Strong agree! And maybe we already are..."
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For those unaware, Primer was a DC best-selling original graphic novel from 2020 about an artist named Ashley Rayburn who uses military experimented body paint to gain a wide array of super powers. Its most notable attribute is that it had a crossover with the 03 Teen Titans back in 2023.
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