Dead by Daylight and other Asymmetric Slasher Games - Discuss the games and the autistic/entitled communities around them

I think BHVR is just going to copy IdV´s system.

Anti-Slugging = Survivors can pick themselves up once basekit
Anti-Hiding = last survivor gets crows and alerts killer via noise notification unless they work a gen
Anti-Bodyblocking & Hostage holding = the fucking escape button which teleports you a single feet away from the spot you´re stuck in

Truly the only thing original, BHVR is doing is M&K options for Console players.
For hiding I find it's more an issue when there's two survivors left who don't think they're going to be able to complete the generators (Say 2 survivors with 4-5 generators with 0% progress left or they've 3 genned themselves) and are either they're messing around together to annoy the killer or trying to outlive each other.

If there was just one survivor left they'd likely be going for hatch?

That anti-slugging suggestion sounds like it wouldn't really work either, maybe it'd be fine in the current 2 vs 8 mode but in regular DBD but with a good SWF sabotage squad sometimes you just have to slug them, depending on map and hook placement.

For body blocking it'd be MOSTLY okay with the main exception being 2 survivors blocking the exit gates at the end of the game.
 
For hiding I find it's more an issue when there's two survivors left who don't think they're going to be able to complete the generators (Say 2 survivors with 4-5 generators with 0% progress left or they've 3 genned themselves) and are either they're messing around together to annoy the killer or trying to outlive each other.
I've had that done to me a few times. It's always a SWF that decides to throw the match and just be annoying pieces of shit (no doubt they act like that IRL when they don't get their way) and they either switch from locker to locker or crouch walk around the edge of the map. Luckily, or not, the killer automatically wins if matches last up to an hour.
 
Not nerfing moris and keys at the same time was insane to me. I still get pissed off thinking about it.
Considering how on the forums survivors keep insisting that the anti-killer changes are a good thing or "BHVR offered so many carrots to not tunnel" i start to be affirmed in my belief that 80% of the playerbase just wants NPC killers.

Lol on reddit BHVR posted a Perk Preview widget thing which purely exists to show newbies if they have perks equipped.

10% of new players are retarded enough to not equip perks, devs themselves don't make preview available to see other survivors loadouts due to dodging, chat toxicity & extended queue times.

Meanwhile on IdV for 1v4 (qm,ranked) and Hide & Seek the survivors can see previews if there is Borrowed Time, Dead Hard*, Lithe or Adrenalin

*old Dbd DH + pingable if it's or their item is on cooldown

Preview was added in 4 years ago and before that survivors used to chat which perks they use without any toxicity involved
 
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Considering how on the forums survivors keep insisting that the anti-killer changes are a good thing or "BHVR offered so many carrots to not tunnel" i start to be affirmed in my belief that 80% of the playerbase just wants NPC killers.
They want you to be like a dungeon boss from WoW or any other MMORPG. Predictable movesets, counters which completely cripple you, aggro pulling, wins relying on survivors' mistakes and so on. I browse various DBD community sites and it feels like an insane asylum.

Here's the stuff i am sick of seeing over and over:
- "killers started slugging for 4k just to see a mori animation. It's also a killer buff",
- killers are OP because a guy who streams DBD daily for a decade has a win streak,
- t-bagging the killer is ok, because it makes him chase you,
- SWF is fine. Solos need to be buffed to near SWF levels instead,
- Map offerings are fine, because of "achievements",
- having to dedicate multiple perk slots to gen defense is fine, but dedicating slots to anti-slug/anti-tunnel is le bad. Need basekit buffs,
- "i play both sides therefore my blatantly biased bullshit can't be criticized",
- "bugged killer perk? Killswitch NOW. Bugged flashbangs? Just bring lightborn",
- "X is a waste of perk slot", sincerely your opponent,
- "slugging as a strategy is toxic and needs to be removed. Full sabo, power struggle or multiple head on builds? How can a build be toxic?",
- "killers got respawning hooks, removal of infinites, BNP instant gens, nerfs to instaheals, DH, DS. Survivors were nerfed so hard and they still complain...",
- "you should be nice, because there are humans on the other side of the screen." Directed at one side, never a word about BM from survs every single match and wasting of time at the gate till the last second,
- "disconnecting against X and Y is acceptable if I don't like it. I'm not your hostage. Killer quits a bullshit match? GG EZ we owned him so hard",
- "We solos are so poor... it's so frustrating" everytime teammates don't play like it's a tournament,
- "gens aren't too fast, just spread pressure",
- "really you shouldn't run any gen defense as it boosts you above your skill level",
- "youtubers making whole series smurfing against new killers is fine, because... it just is, ok?",
- "you hate SBMM? You just want to stomp the noobs.",
- "I know what I'm talking about. I'm Iri 1",
- "I don't play DBD, but I watch others play it so let me speak about game balance...",
- *uses anti-tunnel offensively and gets downed* "OMFG we need more anti-tunnel",
- advertises their stream in nickname, "WHY AM I GETTING SNIPED?",
- "[killer]'s [adjective]" nickname (wesker's wife, david's toy and so on),
- *sees you have X perk and DCs* "dear reddit its time to talk about X",
- "heh he privated his profile comments out of fear of my salty -reps which can be deleted at will",
- "it's an assymetrical game, it doesn't have to be balanced. BHVR wants 60% kill rate? Killer sided game, here's proof....",
- *any dbd discussion* "...but what about solo queue?",
- "nerf nurse... make blight 110%... no, dont buff low tier killers just nerf the best ones",
- "i only see blight, blight, blight nowadays... Again, no buffing of weaker killers",
- "go next prevention is bullshit... yes, i will dc against any minor inconvenience, you dont get to waste my time",
- "8 gen kick limit is fine. It never happens in a real game. And if it does it's a good thing. Survivors strategically repairing gens to spread them around corners of the map is just skill".

edit: forgot about the most retarded one:
- "nerf swf? you want to punish people for playing with friends?"
 
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Now that 2v8 is coming to an end in few days I can say I'm burned out. The mode is fun, but the map design is just total garbage resulting in aforementioned NPC killer gameplay. Most of the killers just struggle way too hard against it.

There's a million loops like this:
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Two long sides, nothing you can do except to force the pallet drop and by the end of breaking it they're at another safe loop just waiting. It feels like there's a million Killer Shacks per map. A lot of the loops are too safe and a guaranteed time waste which often lead to another god loop/pallet/window. Come back a minute or two later and the pallets are rebuilt.
Another issue are main buildings. I can't count the amount of people abusing pallet rebuilding by just running into the main building every time you notice them (Ormond being the most notorious). And from there all you can do is just leave them alone unless you want to dedicate ~2 minutes for a single down.
Shift+W is also especially annoying in this mode which often makes Shadow class a must as it allows you to get to someone before they run to a busted loop (but then if you have a Legion teammate you're also crippling them, so it's not always an option). Rest of the classes are pretty garbage and don't matter.

Straight from the wiki:
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Skip through the video, look at how bullshit those tiles are and how big of an ego this actual nigger has for abusing them. He's playing an old 2v8 and it feels like they made the problem even worse since then.

I do not expect the mode to be very balanced and there's a lot I can complain about, but this god loop into god loop is just plain boring.
 
I put on Tru3Talent in background and I burst out laughing when he got a full slug and started ranting about balance while bleeding them out
Timestamped at 9:10 right before full slug. I was thinking he was taking a moment to formulate his thoughts or to see if there are enough hooks nearby. As time went on I started getting the impression that he got too into the zone with his rant and forgot to hook them. One guy even disconnects while he just circles the shack. Turns out he just wanted to avoid the 4% unhooks to get a total survivor death.

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I love this arrogant, unapologetic ranting and shitting on the devs. The "(show the devs)" in the title lol.

Are there more DBD streamers like this? I'm aware of ONE_LETTER__SHOR but he is way too cringy and his thumbnails are just disgusting:
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The best streams I watched were from a guy who kept spouting death threats at the survivors literally every single match, calling them discord pedophiles and every other insult he could think of. It was peak entertainment, but he quit many years ago.
 
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I put on Tru3Talent in background and I burst out laughing when he got a full slug and started ranting about balance while bleeding them out
Timestamped at 9:10 right before full slug. I was thinking he was taking a moment to formulate his thoughts or to see if there are enough hooks nearby. As time went on I started getting the impression that he got too into the zone with his rant and forgot to hook them. One guy even disconnects while he just circles the shack. Turns out he just wanted to avoid the 4% unhooks to get a total survivor death.

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I love this arrogant, unapologetic ranting and shitting on the devs. The "(show the devs)" in the title lol.

Are there more DBD streamers like this? I'm aware of ONE_LETTER__SHOR but he is way too cringy and his thumbnails are just disgusting:
The best streams I watched were from a guy who kept spouting death threats at the survivors literally every single match, calling them discord pedophiles and every other insult he could think of. It was peak entertainment, but he quit many years ago.
To be fair the 41% unhook thing is something which can fuck you over as a killer.

Still funny to see tru3 rant and slug the survivors.
 
Watched some of that one_letter_shor's dbd vods and it's refreshing to see even if it's a bit cringy sometimes. Pretty funny to see him rage at the game:


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Much more entertaining than OTZ faggot darva apologizing for tunneling someone by accident.
 
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I put on Tru3Talent in background and I burst out laughing when he got a full slug and started ranting about balance while bleeding them out
Timestamped at 9:10 right before full slug. I was thinking he was taking a moment to formulate his thoughts or to see if there are enough hooks nearby. As time went on I started getting the impression that he got too into the zone with his rant and forgot to hook them. One guy even disconnects while he just circles the shack. Turns out he just wanted to avoid the 4% unhooks to get a total survivor death.

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I love this arrogant, unapologetic ranting and shitting on the devs. The "(show the devs)" in the title lol.

Are there more DBD streamers like this? I'm aware of ONE_LETTER__SHOR but he is way too cringy and his thumbnails are just disgusting:
The best streams I watched were from a guy who kept spouting death threats at the survivors literally every single match, calling them discord pedophiles and every other insult he could think of. It was peak entertainment, but he quit many years ago.
True is such a bitch faggot though. Seen games where ONE t bag causes him to fucking melt and when a guy mildly taunts him in endgame chat, he has a FIVE minute meltdown.

He acts like a white nigger with little foresight and is a blatantly unaware of himself.
 
In what I assume is in honour of Andrew Dobson returning to the internet* BVHR has released a code to unlock a carnival mask avatar!:
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(*And has since left again, if it even was the real Dobson)
 
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I wonder if that’s why the cosmetics in the current rift are so Hellraiser-like? Maybe some of them were supposed to be part of a future Hellraiser rift?

On the plus side that means Deadlock is becoming a general perk, Gift of Pain and Hex: Plaything will also be really good options for new killer players just starting out.
 
I wonder if that’s why the cosmetics in the current rift are so Hellraiser-like? Maybe some of them were supposed to be part of a future Hellraiser rift?

On the plus side that means Deadlock is becoming a general perk, Gift of Pain and Hex: Plaything will also be really good options for new killer players just starting out.
Do not let this distract you from the fact that BHVR hasn't released general perks in years despite constant complains and you still have to grind your ass off to get semi-decent perks for all your killers.
 
Fun fact.

DbD mobile didn´t get Resident Evil but got the perks anyways as general ones.

PS4 playes had Bill´s perks for free as well before he was available for them.

The last general perk ever added was the retarded Shattered Hope which is a 99% useless and even in the 1% still worthless perk.
 
Seriously fucking hoping that they add Michael afton and actually give him a security guard outfit.

I've no idea why a white dude with a cop/security coat is so ridiculous to get. Hellraiser leaving is unfortunate but if they *do* get a license again, a female legendary pinhead would be fascinating. I'd kill for the auditor as a skin for someone.

After castlevania, I wanna see more super natural survivors or even Sci fi. I'd be stoked as FUCK to have terminator and Kyle Reese(we'd get Sarah conner obviously but legendary skin).

I wonder if there's any other possible bands/music that could work in dbd?
 
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