Debate Android Raptor about abortion again

[Stan]

Really showing your knowledge of history, philosophy and medicine.

It's way more fucking accurate to say that the rules of the church are modeled after healthcare codes of ethics.

It's a simplification, but tbh I don't think *that* much of what the Greeks call medicine. It's just a lot of tasting urine and sacrificing chickens to Asclepius and Hygiea, hoping you'd get better. Maybe cut yourself and let some blood out, cause the Greeks believed that could be helpful. When medicine got to be more complicated than something your barber could do for you, the church was in charge. And tbh in certain times and places like 17c Edinburgh medicine was kind of in a bind because of church ethics. Do I need to remind you about Burke and Hare? Or the London guys who copied their MO?

Anyway if you are mad you didn't get to take your cadaver's organs home and post a show-and-tell video on social media, you can blame the church. Or why it's not cool to draw dicks on the faces of unconscious patients -> church.

First, it's easier to teach normal women to identify and leave jerks than it is to teach retarded and autistic men to not be retarded and autistic. Trust me, I have tried to teach retards to not be retarded. It doesn't work.

OK so are the men the logical ones who deserve to be in charge of the world, or hopeless retards who need women to monitor them so they don't burn the house down? Since I hold out hope that men aren't actually soulless monsters, I think it is more than fair to condemn guys who pursue the hit-it-and-quit-it Ralphamale reproductive strategy. You guys can do better.

Unfortunately, getting pregnant is always your problem. The abusive ass hole can get hit by a bus and his mess will still be your problem. Sometimes it just sucks having a vagina.

Well that sure is convenient for you, isn't it? But guess what: if you're going to go with the doctrine that pregnancy is a your body, your problem kinda deal for women, then it's also their prerogative to end that pregnancy if they don't want to go forward with it, because they're the ones taking on all the risk and all responsibility for the children they bear.

If a guy is broke, you can always take away his freedom. You can and will go to jail for unpaid child support. (At least in Burgerland.) If you want to go scorched earth, go scorched earth. It's worth every penny.

It is a federal crime under certain circumstances for an individual to willfully fail to pay child support. This is a federal crime when a person willfully fails to pay child support when it has been ordered by a court for a child who lives in another state. Additionally, the crime can be federally prosecuted if child support is past due for longer than 12 months or if it exceeds $5,000. A violation of this law is considered a misdemeanor and includes a maximum penalty of six months in prison and fines. If the child support is overdue for longer than two years or the amount unpaid is $10,000 or more, the crime is considered a felony, potentially resulting in up to two years in prison and fines.

It is also a federal crime for a person to cross state lines or flee the country to try to avoid paying child support that is at least one year or $5,000 past due. [Source]

wow up to two years in prison. That's a pretty mild penalty for essentially abandoning one's child.

Also, not for nothing... sending a deadbeat like Ralph to prison won't put formula in the cupboard.

The problem is abusers tend to hide their true nature until they feel like they have a victim trapped. Many abusive men first start abusing their partners when they become pregnant. Many abuse victims also grew up in abusive homes and are normalized to abuse. Some are also minor girls who were groomed by pedophiles.

Yes exactly. It's like an arms race to figure out which men are trustworthy and which are not.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Or why it's not cool to draw dicks on the faces of unconscious patients -> church.

We still do that, but in more creative ways

 

[John R. Brown M.D.]

it's not cool to draw dicks on the faces of unconcious patients

Stopped reading there

 

[Otoya Yamaguchi]

Absolutely not, fuck that shit.
I took Hippocrates's Oath, predating church stuff by many centuries.

Hippocrates actually came AFTER God

it is mathematically impossible for anything to predate the church

the average age for onset of breast development is 8.8-9.7 years, depending on the child's ethnicity.

Remember, trust the science!

you didnt post science. you posted pedo fan fics. in order for something to be scientifically true, it has to have backing evidence.

 

[Android raptor]

you didnt post science. you posted pedo fan fics. in order for something to be scientifically true, it has to have backing evidence.

The National Library of Medicine is pedo fanfiction?

 

[AgendaPoster]

Hippocrates actually came AFTER God

it is mathematically impossible for anything to predate the church

God predates the church?

 

[Otoya Yamaguchi]

God predates the church?

god created the church when he created man

God is the church

The National Library of Medicine is pedo fanfiction?

yes.

 

[AgendaPoster]

god created the church when he created man

So he predates the church and you're dumb
Nothing new under the sun
But wait!
The church is the Body of Christ, and Christ IS God, so:
God created the Body of God
Which predates everything
So the Body of God predates God
We're deep into mystery hours here, Otoya-sama!

 

[Banditotron]

Farting in this thread. Sorry

 

[Android raptor]

yes.

Then what is a non-pedo source?

Please, crackhead man, tell what age girls actually start developing breasts and in your eyes are no longer children

 

[Otoya Yamaguchi]

So he predates the church and you're dumb
Nothing new under the sun
But wait!
The church is the Body of Christ, and Christ IS God, so:
God created the Body of God
Which predates everything
So the Body of God predates God
We're deep into mystery hours here, Otoya-sama!

i think it was you i explained this to before, but just because your small 3d human brain cant understand it, doesnt make it not true

since god exist outside of time, space and any conceivable dimension, you cannot say he existed before or after anything. time came AFTER his creation of reality, but nothing can predate his creation, because prior to creation, there was nothing

saying something came BEFORE or AFTER xyz would require a timeline of sorts, as its quantified by linear time. Since god created time, and exists outside of time, he can not be before or after anything

im not sure who keep telling you im "dumb" but you should probably stop listening to them. just saying the track record for those people....its not great

Then what is a non-pedo source?

just going outside and being around your fellow humans (i know, very scary for ugly she-nazis)....this is part of the scientific method we call observation

does the hypothesis in the article line up with what can be observed and tested.

this is 3rd grade stuff

 

[Android raptor]

just going outside and being around your fellow humans (i know, very scary for ugly she-nazis)....this is part of the scientific method we call observation

does the hypothesis in the article line up with what can be observed and tested.

this is 3rd grade stuff

So what have you observed? What age would you say girls are no longer children because they have boobs (because apparently you're an adult the second you sprout boobs in crackhead land)?

 

[Otoya Yamaguchi]

(because apparently you're an adult the second you sprout boobs in crackhead land)?

stay on topic and rebutt things ive actually said or argued for

 

[Android raptor]

stay on topic and rebutt things ive actually said or argued for

Why wasn't @Android raptor aborted? The world would be a better place without them.

Because narcissists enjoy having kids to abuse

 

[Otoya Yamaguchi]

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alright, we're getting there! let's get this post, and combine it with an original thought of your own, and hot damn! we'll have a discussion going!

proud of you, sugar tits!

(just kidding, ive seen your tits, they were meh at best, nothing sugar or sweet about them)

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

OK so are the men the logical ones who deserve to be in charge of the world, or hopeless retards who need women to monitor them so they don't burn the house down? Since I hold out hope that men aren't actually soulless monsters, I think it is more than fair to condemn guys who pursue the hit-it-and-quit-it Ralphamale reproductive strategy. You guys can do better.

Remember when Null said women view men as pets? Yeah, those men that are pets deserve to be treated like animals and locked away. The world will be a better place if the men with severe autism just rotted in an asylum. But I can't fix the autistic retards no matter what I do, they're autistic retards and their brains are broken. The women who date them, for whatever God awful reason, hopefully can still be saved. If they can't, then they deserve each other. But you can't fix retards. If we can't convince Dino Robot to have a middle ground on abortion, then we can't fix those retards that are unemployed and depend on their gfs for basic daily tasks and live off diets of dino nuggies.

What I'm saying is, I hate autistic men.

(just kidding, ive seen your tits, they were meh at best, nothing sugar or sweet about them)

Lies. Robot Dino's Dino-nuggies are beautiful and delicious and you can't convince me otherwise.

 

[Banditotron]

Remember when Null said women view men as pets? Yeah, those men that are pets deserve to be treated like animals and locked away. The world will be a better place if the men with severe autism just rotted in an asylum

This is like something a villain would say in the older sonichu comics.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

This is like something a villain would say in the older sonichu comics.

If I could be a supervillain I absolutely would be.

 

[gang weeder]

I just think it is a sad situation for a healthy pregnancy to be terminated; but that it would be unethical to coerce a woman to carry a baby she doesn't want. It's a choice between bad and worse imo.

What exactly do you think a pregnancy is? Even in this very statement, you slip up and say that it's unethical to coerce a woman to carry a baby she doesn't want. That can't be what you meant, as that would imply that abortion is, y'know, baby murder. Of course, if a fetus isn't a person, which I am sure is your stated belief, why feel sad about aborting it? It's no different from excising a tumor, right?

Maybe you view a fetus as more like an animal than a human being--something whose suffering and death can be mourned, but which is ultimately of little consequence, like putting down a cat or a dog?

The solution is LARC [Long Acting Reversible Contraception], and lots of it. This is one of those situations where an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

This already exists, and apparently, millions of people simply don't feel like using it.

Reality doesn't usually abide perfect fairy-tale solutions. Everything has a tradeoff.

 

[Stan]

Stopped reading there

Who are you again?

god created the church when he created man

God is the church

stopped reading there

So he predates the church and you're dumb
Nothing new under the sun
But wait!
The church is the Body of Christ, and Christ IS God, so:
God created the Body of God
Which predates everything
So the Body of God predates God
We're deep into mystery hours here, Otoya-sama!

Look AP,
It's OK to be agnostic, but don't be antagonistic. What do you have to gain from kicking down Otoya-san's sandcastle?

What I'm saying is, I hate autistic men.

Aw man me too