Debate bored Greer lawsuit thread regulars on whether Russell Greer was truly excommunicated (they've had this discussion many times already)

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All anyone would have to do is send Ensign (formerly LDS Business) College the parts of his books where he openly brags about fucking hookers while attending a religious school. They'd probably rescind it just for that.

He even said he knew he could get kicked out of school for it but did it anyway. BYU fines female students just for wearing bluejeans.
Nah, it’s a proper private institution. Utah isn’t a caliphate. I’m pretty sure he’s already been excommunicated from the LDS church.

All that’d happen is some poor secretary would be bothered. Trade schools can’t go around revoking the degrees of their law graduates if they turn out to be assholes because most people involved in the law are assholes. It’s a suicidal business move.
 
Nah, it’s a proper private institution. Utah isn’t a caliphate. I’m pretty sure he’s already been excommunicated from the LDS church.

All that’d happen is some poor secretary would be bothered. Trade schools can’t go around revoking the degrees of their law graduates if they turn out to be assholes because most people involved in the law are assholes. It’s a suicidal business move.
as far as i remember, he was never officially excommunicated (don’t even know if that’s the right term for mormons, was raised catholic and excommunication is a practice that doesn’t happen, or rarely happens, with catholics anymore as far as i know). and part of the reason he took entire semesters off was to work to get money to fuck hookers.

edit: i prob responded to the wrong post, sorry
 
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as far as i remember, he was never officially excommunicated (don’t even know if that’s the right term for mormons, was raised catholic and excommunication is a practice that doesn’t happen, or rarely happens, with catholics anymore as far as i know). and part of the reason he took entire semesters off was to work to get money to fuck hookers.

edit: i prob responded to the wrong post, sorry
They have actual excommunication but it's a formal process and often lengthy. It's entirely possible he's disfellowshipped, which means he loses his Temple recommend (that is can't attend Temple ceremonies including weddings and funerals). The person still formerly remains a member of the Church and can remedy things.

Full excommunication means the person is no longer a member at all. They are supposed to inform you with a letter after some level (often extreme) of process.

He's almost certainly the first, but not the second.
 
Agreed. His public promotion and lobbying for legalized prostitution alone makes him an apostate and subject to disciplinary measures such as membership restrictions.
He'd probably be actually excommunicated if he was something like a prominent academic or a celebrity openly living a gay lifestyle, instead of a retard. They'd go easy on retards. But from things he's said he's likely not allowed in Temple ceremonies, which is why he couldn't attend his (adoptive) sister's wedding and seethed about it. They invited him to the reception (not in the Temple), but he chimped out because they told him it was a no-plights zone and didn't show up, while passive-aggressively madrating the Facebook posts about it.
 
Nah, it’s a proper private institution. Utah isn’t a caliphate. I’m pretty sure he’s already been excommunicated from the LDS church.

All that’d happen is some poor secretary would be bothered. Trade schools can’t go around revoking the degrees of their law graduates if they turn out to be assholes because most people involved in the law are assholes. It’s a suicidal business move.
That and what would revoking his paralegal degree do? He couldn't reliably get paralegal work before the recent firing/eviction and none of his lolsuit victims has used his paralegal status to justify holding him to a tougher standard than other pro se plaintiffs. The most we'd get out of this is a bit of Facebook seething followed by an angry self-pitying filing on the docket.
 
He'd probably be actually excommunicated if he was something like a prominent academic or a celebrity openly living a gay lifestyle, instead of a retard. They'd go easy on retards. But from things he's said he's likely not allowed in Temple ceremonies, which is why he couldn't attend his (adoptive) sister's wedding and seethed about it. They invited him to the reception (not in the Temple), but he chimped out because they told him it was a no-plights zone and didn't show up, while passive-aggressively madrating the Facebook posts about it.
Greer is noting if not a slave to his victim complex. If he was put through any sort of excommunication process he would document it every step of the way. Not only does he not have a sense of shame in the traditional sense where shameful acts would embarrass him, so constantly airing out his curated dirty laundry (his aforementioned lack of traditional shame causes this to backfire on him, See: Writing a book about making 18 year olds hookers as a sense of pride) is one of the few paths to validation left open to him since his rancid personality closed most others. Every Church sanctioned intervention would be met with long winded incoherent rants about trying to force Greer into a life he doesn't want. An official letter of excommunication would be permanently pinned at the top of all his feeds as proof (in his mind) that he is unloved and persecuted even by people who should love him.
 
They have actual excommunication but it's a formal process and often lengthy. It's entirely possible he's disfellowshipped, which means he loses his Temple recommend (that is can't attend Temple ceremonies including weddings and funerals). The person still formerly remains a member of the Church and can remedy things.

Full excommunication means the person is no longer a member at all. They are supposed to inform you with a letter after some level (often extreme) of process.

He's almost certainly the first, but not the second.
I've heard of cases where one is called to the "court of love" and if the person doesn't show they're excommunicated in absentia.

I think Russell's "excommunicated without telling me" means he got called to the court of love, blew it off, and then he was surprised to get notified of his excommunication without him being there
 
That and what would revoking his paralegal degree do? He couldn't reliably get paralegal work before the recent firing/eviction and none of his lolsuit victims has used his paralegal status to justify holding him to a tougher standard than other pro se plaintiffs.
I seriously doubt they even could just seize something he paid for years later because they're mad at him now.
I've heard of cases where one is called to the "court of love" and if the person doesn't show they're excommunicated in absentia.

I think Russell's "excommunicated without telling me" means he got called to the court of love, blew it off, and then he was surprised to get notified of his excommunication without him being there
And even if they do that, they send a letter. If they could contact him at all in the first place, they could do that, too.

It's VANISHINGLY RARE to go through a full excommunication.
 
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He'd probably be actually excommunicated if he was something like a prominent academic or a celebrity openly living a gay lifestyle, instead of a retard.
That'd still probably only be grounds for disfellowship or member restriction. If he was gay or a troon and publicly advocated for such lifestyles while declaiming LDS church teaching, he'd probably be excommunicated. Existence is not enough, active opposition is what triggers response usually.

His combative and litigious nature as probably not endeared him to many though that is not grounds for discipline as far as I know, unless he's been instructed to knock it off.

@Debbie Macomber I have never heard this term ever.

Another thing with Greer is him going the brothel route has been entirely unsurprising. Utah girls tend to be very exacting and have relatively highish standards. His mobius syndrome wouldn't even matter. His odius personality can be sniffed out miles away. Better to retreat to Nevada to pay women.
 
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Meh I'm not worried about Stabby's suit.

If there is anyone on the planet who is capable of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory it's ole Mr. Stabby. He misleads in his briefs, he sometimes lies, he quotes bits of legalese out of context assuming the court will be too lazy to look up said legal statutes and he does everything he possible can to antagonize the court. From talking down the judge, using 26 point font to scream at the judge when he rules against him and filing brief after brief after brief after brief about the most stupid and mundane shit Stabby can come up with after 6 hours on Ask a Lawyer.com

Nah even if the court despises Jersh for his tranny killing website they will come to hate Mr Stabby more. After all this is a person so irredeemable and toxic he's never had a single friend in his whole life.

Compared to ole Acerthorn Greer is god-damn suave talking jive ass mutherfucker living it large.

There you go Russ-tard, there IS someone worse then you at the game of life. Congratu-fucking-lations.
Now the real question is how you get these 2 in a lolsuit against each other
 
They have actual excommunication but it's a formal process and often lengthy. It's entirely possible he's disfellowshipped, which means he loses his Temple recommend (that is can't attend Temple ceremonies including weddings and funerals). The person still formerly remains a member of the Church and can remedy things.

Full excommunication means the person is no longer a member at all. They are supposed to inform you with a letter after some level (often extreme) of process.

He's almost certainly the first, but not the second.
That'd still probably only be grounds for disfellowship or member restriction. If he was gay or a troon and publicly advocated for such lifestyles while declaiming LDS church teaching, he'd probably be excommunicated. Existence is not enough, active opposition is what triggers response usually.

His combative and litigious nature as probably not endeared him to many though that is not grounds for discipline as far as I know, unless he's been instructed to knock it off.
Greer claiming to have been excommunicated without his knowledge in November 2017:

That said, we know he lost his recommend ages ago as he wasn't allowed to attend his adopted sister's temple wedding.

Bonus: Greer sperging in the comments and admitting he used to flash his Utah AG badge when he'd visit the Bunny Ranch: https://archive.is/WTulM
 
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