Community Debate Ethics in VTubing, Model Design and Voice Acting, Loli and Loli-adjacency - Containment zone for third rail enjoyers

Why do the people actually making arguments have the "Disruptive guest" icon but not the numerous driveby posters who add nothing to the topic besides "look I me I said a thing give me hats now"?
They're mod discretion, basically. I generally don't want the pro-lolicon people screencapped and shared off-site as evidence the KF is pro-lolicon.
 
Why do the people actually making arguments have the "Disruptive guest" icon but not the numerous driveby posters who add nothing to the topic besides "look I me I said a thing give me hats now"?
Because you're on Kiwifarms, making arguments defending lolicon is the disruption, the people shitting on them are the norm.
 
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just got this one in the mail btw

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I'm telling you, I am 100% on this, the next step down on the slippery slope from "lolicon is fine" is "actually, men are supposed to be attracted to 13 year old girls as soon as they hit puberty, it's human nature". this is an identical argument made by actual pedophiles who consume child pornography.
 
Why do the people actually making arguments have the "Disruptive guest" icon but not the numerous driveby posters who add nothing to the topic besides "look I me I said a thing give me hats now"?
Usually you people are just outright banned, but I guess Null wants to make an example out of you retards now.
 
just got this one in the mail btw

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I'm telling you, I am 100% on this, the next step down on the slippery slope from "lolicon is fine" is "actually, men are supposed to be attracted to 13 year old girls as soon as they hit puberty, it's human nature". this is an identical argument made by actual pedophiles who consume child pornography.
Yeah I agree that's an incredibly stupid argument to make and the guy is probably an actual pedophile because he tries to coerce approval.

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Damn, probably need to close my blinds and get a VPN.
 
I would never argue that lolicon is the same as child pornography. I never have. What I argue is that people into lolicon are either pedophiles or are unknowingly conditioning themselves to become pedophiles.
Eyyy, now this is the kind of thing I waded in for. I salute you, Null. But the different crimes thing was in relation to the discussion with the other guy.

There's no way around this. Exposure therapy is not a meme, it is a science. Your personality is the history of every experience you've ever had combined. People don't wake up one day as very athletic, they are athletic because they train themselves to enjoy sport and physical activity.

Every time you consume something you are training yourself to enjoy it more. You are carving grooves into your brain like a vinyl record, so that when the needle drops - you behave as comes natural to you - you enter this comfortable, well-tread path and follow it without thinking. You are training yourself to enjoy girls who are small, petite, without developed breasts, with no hip to waist ratio. When you then exit your home and walk around, your brain is trained to find these things attractive. What would draw your eye before no longer does. What draws your eye now would be uncomfortable to you only a few years ago. But in the confines of your brain, and in the isolation of your cunny discord group, it's not taboo. It is encouraged by your friends.
We are in agreement on that, but there's a bit more nuance. Those who fap to it, the unironic "UOH CHILD TUMMY EROTIC" crowd, are absolutely conditioning themselves to like loli more, but as the loli differentiates more from the actual child, there's some data suggesting the ideal becomes more detached from reality. There's research into that, if loli can be used to tame the pedo. If there is a solution other than "just kill 'em."

But I'm also the kind of sicko who is genuinely interested in whether conversion therapy actually worked in any cases so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

The people I actually want to reach are the ones who are on the edge. "Well, I guess it's weird, but it's not real kids, and I think maybe it's just petite girls...." - you are the mark. You're the one who can get a parasocial relationship with Saba and find himself in a gooner discord jerking off to lolicon of this character.

If it was natural it would not need advertising.

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I will agree there's an argument to be made for limiting reach, and that those doing it for the meme are providing a smokescreen to those who are an issue even if they aren't true believers in the power of cunny. "This will tilt the normies" vs "I am watching Saba with my dick out, and it's ROCK HARD."

But there's also something to be said for sunlight being the best disinfectant. Come down too hard, and they scurry into little corners where they're harder to monitor. If they're out in the open, those who act can be watched. ... As evidenced...

I'm telling you, I am 100% on this, the next step down on the slippery slope from "lolicon is fine" is "actually, men are supposed to be attracted to 13 year old girls as soon as they hit puberty, it's human nature". this is an identical argument made by actual pedophiles who consume child pornography.
Also Muslims. He's not wrong from an evolutionary biology standpoint, for a long time it was a drive to breed 'em as soon as they bleed, but a good chunk of human society is built around getting past those primal instincts.

They're mod discretion, basically. I generally don't want the pro-lolicon people screencapped and shared off-site as evidence the KF is pro-lolicon.
... I still have yet to actually say loli/shota is okay, for the record, but my username is a rape joke, so I'm not particularly bothered with the kneejerk assumption.
 
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