Debate IKOL on why age of consent should be RAISED

[The best and greatest]

>grammar faggotry
You don't help your case at all, you know that?

You dont get to call someone out for grammar policing when you invoked literacy with your bantz.
Calling someone else an illiterate retard is pretty much the one time you REALLY want your spelling and syntax to be on point.

 

[IKOL]

You dont get to call someone out for grammar policing when you invoked literacy with your bantz.
Calling someone else an illiterate retard is pretty much the one time you REALLY want your spelling and syntax to be on point.

Perhaps, if this filthy individual had a decency to think through and not talking nonsense, I'd agree.

Raising AoC assumes raising the bar not only for "I can fuck this person now since they're of age" but also allowance of firearms possession, voting rights, driver's license allowance, and so on and on.

But no some nigger thought it's them direct duty to spit out some bullshit cuz they assume for OP what he meant by his post.

Shamefur dispray, niggers.

 

[For The Internet]

Perhaps, if this filthy individual had a decency to think through and not talking nonsense, I'd agree.

Raising AoC assumes raising the bar not only for "I can fuck this person now since they're of age" but also allowance of firearms possession, voting rights, driver's license allowance, and so on and on.

But no some nigger thought it's them direct duty to spit out some bullshit cuz they assume for OP what he meant by his post.

Shamefur dispray, niggers.

Okay, so for one thing it’s really hard to take any argument seriously when it’s peppered with slurs for no reason and you also don’t actually give citations or present your thoughts in a coherent and orderly fashion.

You said nothing about increasing the age for anything other than AoC. It’s not ‘implied’ that the age for all the other things I mentioned like driving should be increased too, and in fact most people who make the argument that adults aren’t fully mature until they’re 25 never address those issues in a comprehensive manner. You didn’t, so if you believe that, perhaps bolster your argument by making that distinction so people can understand your rhetoric more thoroughly.

I was being flippant, because if you’re going to throw around slurs and not give a serious argument for your case it’s not going to be taken seriously.

There are serious discussions to be made around these issues and you did it in a way that does nothing to bolster your argument.

Spoiler: Okay fine, let’s sperg about this shit

There are merits to increasing the age of certain activities past simply the age of majority but 25 for everything simply based on your brain being scientifically mostly developed at that age doesn’t take into account many external factors that are important to consider. Those issues are crucial to a legitimate discussion.

For instance, raising the age of consent will do nothing to deter pedophiles or stop teens from having sex. There are Romeo and Juliet laws in place and that means age gap sexual relationships can be legal, it varies state to state by how much. Some are as much as 10 years in the US, which I strongly disagree with.

You talk about forming your beliefs at around 25 as being a good thing, but the neuroplasticity of youth is essential to development and denying people so many formative experiences until they’re 25 can stunt them because we learn by experience, and according to common psychological consensus it’s healthy to explore and push boundaries (to a certain extent, don’t be lame and try to say I’m saying kids should have orgies). It’s a normal part of the human experience and is a crucial part of forming that person we are at the magic age of 25.

Again, I think certain things should be evaluated to see if the age of legality should be raised, but a blanket age of 25 based solely on a very specific fact of science (one that actually has variance and is far more complex than stated here) ignores so many sociological, psychological and cultural issues that are incredibly important in the discussion.

Teenagers do stupid things. But so do people in their thirties. Their fifties. Their seventies. Brain development isn’t an assurance of maturity and competence in areas of decision making and rationality. You don’t magically become smarter and have better judgment when you hit 25, just like turning 18 doesn’t make you an adult with an adult mind automatically, which I’m sure you agree with.

Admittedly I’m not a scientist in this field, but neither are you. I actually am a scientist though, so if you want to make a word salad argument based on your understanding of a scientific concept I’m going to expect more than twitter-level mentions of a complex subject. Bringing up nebulous scientific concepts to prove your argument isn’t isn’t the automatic W you think it is, despite what redditors and Onision might think.

For context, my undergrad was in criminology and I have studied criminal psychology (so yes, pedophiles), deviance ( meaning societal norms and those who deviate from them in various areas, from criminal to religious to simple unusual behaviours), and also criminal statistics, and brain development has been something covered in my studies too as it’s highly relevant to criminal psychology and understanding why people behave the way they do.

I’m far from an expert, but I have more education in the area than Professor Google and Reddit University so I feel like I have a relatively decent grasp of the relevant concepts.

I’m humouring myself by offering a serious reply this time but please, feel free to continue to use juvenile insults towards me to prove how your argument shows that being 25 - which you presumably are - doesn’t make you mature and more rational. If you’re under 25, it would be a bit hypocritical to make that argument before you’ve met your own criteria.

I’m very much open to an actual discussion about these important issues here and I’m willing to give citations from peer reviewed studies about the related issues but I get the feeling you’re not up for that. It’s easier to just call me a mongoloid than have a good faith debate after all.

Of course expecting a thoughtful and well-considered discussion here is delusional but hey, you seem to think you’re pretty well-informed so I’m giving you the chance to humiliate me with science and prove conclusively that you’re the superior intellect to my mongoloid subhumanity.

Or just use slurs and tell me you didn’t bother to read my dumb post because it’s long so I’m a -insert slur of choice- , that’ll show everyone how much of an intelligent badass you are too I’m sure.

 

[IKOL]

Okay, so for~

Too long, didn't read.
I'm happy for you or sorry it have happened.

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

this thread needs to be watched by the feds

 

[Chuck McGill]

Raising AoC assumes raising the bar not only for "I can fuck this person now since they're of age" but also allowance of firearms possession, voting rights, driver's license allowance, and so on and on.

To be completely fair to him, I have heard this idea suggested more and more. The redditfags that want the AOC raised don't want the ages for the other stuff raised, they want to keep all their rights but still get swaddled in a blanket of government protection. They really do have the mentality of children, they want all the rights and none of the responsibilities and they see no problem with that.

These people can fuck themselves. If you aren't at the age of consent, you shouldn't so much as be allowed to speak in public. If you want the AOC raised that's fine, I hope you enjoy not having a smartphone until you're 25. Oh, you thought you were gonna get to keep running your fuckin' mouth until then? Nah.

 

[IKOL]

If you want the AOC raised that's fine, I hope yo1u enjoy not having a smartphone until you're 25. Oh, you thought you were gonna get to keep running your fuckin' mouth until then? Nah.

That'd be great, however we live in the Clownworld.

 

[The best and greatest]

Too long, didn't read.

He called you a pseudo-intellectual clown. Hope that helps.

 

[IKOL]

He called you a pseudo-intellectual clown. Hope that helps.

Not really. But thanks for clarifying his spergatory for me.

 

[Tari]

21 sounds good but keep the romeo and juliet laws for people currently between 18 and 21

 

[Fire Flight]

The puritanism around the age of consent and freaking out over anime teenagers is because we live in a sick culture. What needs to be there is marriage and oversight in courtship not freaking out because a 17 year old dated a 21 year old.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

The puritanism around the age of consent and freaking out over anime teenagers is because we live in a sick culture.

It's not puritanism around the age of consent, it's safeguarding, every country needs hard limits on things, it's really very simple.

And nobody is freaking out over anime teenagers, they're freaking out over anime preteens, and even then most people don't actually care that much and just righly think it's weird, because it is.