Debate Japanese statistical data with Byuu thread posters

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ScooterL

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TheBigOne said:
If Japanese were accounted for in nonJapanese countries, it wouldn't be blank in the column furthest left. That is why Hector is right. Example:
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If Japanese were accounted for in the total number of FOREIGNERS, we could assume that one Japanese died in Korea, and the other guy who died was from Korea visiting Japan.
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Since one Japanese died in the real excel sheet, why is that death not accounted for in the total on the left? Because Japanese deaths are not added to the non-Japanese countries. Hector is right. The attachment is the original Japanese vital scores that show how many Japanese people died in total (Ctrl+F　殺 to find the suicide numbers)
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What does this have to do with American suicides, and which statement of Hoaxin' Hector's are you saying is therefore "right"?
 
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ScooterL said:
What does this have to do with American suicides, and which statement of Hoaxin' Hector's are you saying is therefore "right"?
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It means that there are American deaths missing on the official Vital Records page for Americans that have died in Japan in 2020. Japan has documented more deaths of Americans than those listed on the U.S. Vital Records Page. Either Japan got it wrong, or America is slacking on the death record listings. I'm inclined to believe it's the latter. It means that Byuu's death really could have not been documented on the site in 2021. I don't believe he's dead, but one cannot ignore this evidence. It casts doubt into the accuracy of the Vital Records. When Japan releases the 2021 death records, we can compare the number of suicides in America (Japan's list) to the number of suicides listed on the U.S. Vital Records page. Until that list comes out, we're waiting for the DOJ to respond to my inquiry.
 
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ScooterL said:
No, it doesn't. None of your words add up to that conclusion.
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You will see that I edited my message to say deaths, not suicides. Yes, it does mean that deaths are missing, because no Japanese people are accounted for in American deaths on that list. The Japan list claims more Americans died in Japan than the US vital statistics page does. Therefor, there are American deaths missing on the US vital statistics page OR Japan fucked up and miscounted the number of Americans that died while in Japan. There's a reason why the total number of foreigner deaths in Japan (7839 deaths) is equal to the number of non-Japanese countries
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(4934+905+246+77+235+33+274+67+1068=7839) and not when you add the number of Japanese that died (1389). Japanese deaths are not included in foreigner deaths. Therefor there are more American deaths than are listed on the US Vital Records section. The US Vital Records section has 14 reported deaths. The Japan list has 25 reported American deaths. That's 11 American deaths that are not listed on the US Vital Records.
 
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ScooterL said:
Because the conclusions "Hector was right" and "suicides are missing" are a giant logical leap from the data posted.
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In this particular case Hector is indeed right, and one suicide from 2020 is missing from US site. I think it's you who makes a logical leap and concludes that it makes Hector right about everything else too, which is not the case. There's a visible discrepancy between the list of US nationals who died in Japan from unnatural causes and Japanese demographic record for the same year of 2020. That's all we can know with certainity so far. As for why is that, we can only speculate. Might be a mistake on either party, they may count americans differently, speculations are infinite. It implies that 2021 records also may be compromised. Or may be not. And we will not be able to make anything out of it, until more info comes out.
In conclusion, dictum of the day: Veritas supra homies, or whatever Plato said.
 
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A discrepancy in these records isn't surprising but Hector's making a leap to saying that the governments wouldn't even know one of their citizens died or not. It's not like there's that many of them happening so the paperwork got lost! All the accounts of byuu just went unnotified that he died and they've been sitting untouched for a year despite no activity? Nobody cares that those games have vanished into the either? byuu lied a bunch in his last Twitter thread and tried to extort someone but we should totally trust what he said he was going to do because? Then he constructed a very public and elaborate death to direct people against a target (that he himself said was not the source of his harassment in the emulation community or should I not believe byuu on that specific thing?) he suddenly was interested in late in the game?

I don't get if they're just stupid or they actually do want their "friend" and "hero" to have been secretly tormented by people he never mentioned before into self-unaliving himself.
 
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ScooterL said:
I have posted something useful. I've pointed out that your general deaths data isn't relevant to the data you're comparing it to. You've failed to explain why it is.
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1. The data I posted runs the exact same format as the list Hector posted. 2. The general data I posted is the same database that Hector posted, just all of the data. The data I was using to demonstrate is not about suicides, it's about how the table is formatted. It showed that Japanese deaths are not counted in foreigner deaths. It means there are American deaths not accounted for on the US Vital statistics page. You not paying attention is not posting something useful.
 
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TheBigOne said:
1. The data I posted runs the exact same format as the list Hector posted. 2. The general data I posted is the same database that Hector posted, just all of the data.
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It's not even from the same year as the data it's being used to discredit. It's just not relevant.
 
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ScooterL said:
It's not even from the same year as the data it's being used to discredit. It's just not relevant.
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Yes, it is. The list I posted is 2020. Hector used the exact same data set. You're not paying attention at all lmao. Hector was showing that the US Vital Section didn't list all deaths (non-health related) because Japan has more American deaths accounted for. This shows that the Vital Section may not be reliable for all deaths that have occurred.
 
TheBigOne said:
Yes, it is. The list I posted is 2020. Hector used the exact same data set. You're not paying attention at all lmao.
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He used it to try to discredit 2021 data. That's why the statement "Hector is right" is dumb.
 
ScooterL said:
He used it to try to discredit 2021 data. That's why the statement "Hector is right" is dumb.
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It literally could be used to discredit 2021 data. If not all American deaths are accounted for on the US Vital section for 2020, why the fuck would that be different for any other year? You want to be right? Show us. Show us that every death is accounted for by comparing every other year of Japan/US death lists.
 
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TheBigOne said:
It literally could be used to discredit 2021 data. If not all American deaths are accounted for on the US Vital section for 2020, why the fuck would that be any different for any other year? You want to be right? Show us. Show us that every death is accounted for by comparing every other year of Japan/US death lists.
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There's that logical leap again.

2021 data could be used to discredit 2021 data.

Using 2020 data was just Hector grasping at straws.
 
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